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Fish
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posted 02-03-2001 05:58 AM      Profile for Fish     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Goddamn you all.

"Mewtwo is good, he scares me."
"Mew can learn every TM, he's too good."
"Evade is tough to deal with, do away with it."

For all of you fagz, I had a battle tonight. With Fanha. And as much as you dislike him, he is good at Pokemon.
Too raise the stakes, he used Mewtwo and Mew

Even moreso, I am sooooo drunk right now.

Here goes....

He leads with Mewtwo, me with Starmie. He thinks he is sly with his Duggy, who absorbs my T-Wave. I send out Alakazam, while he switches to his Dragonite.
We paralyze each other. On the next turn, I switch to Eggy, while he uses agility. He used horn drill on the switch to my Tauros...
I blizzard for a Critical hit, while he tries an ineffective move. Next turn, in comes my Starmie who finishes the paralyzed Dragon with a bolt.

Fish 6-5

He sends in Mewtwo. My Mie and his Mewtwo exchange t-waves. I send out Alakazam, who takes a T-Wave. I meant to send Lax. Oh well. My drunken state tries to send out Lax again and sends out Golem, who fallz to a Mewtwo blizzard.

Tied Up 5-5

My Lax FINALLY comes out. Uses Body Slam, and paralyzes Mew on the switch. I slam Mew to 44%, while I get para'd in return. Fanha tried to drill me, but gets a faster Starmie on the switch. I was paralyzed, while he softboiled. At that point, he tried for Tauros. He received a crit surf and a thunderwave while dealing little damage to me.
A body slam/recover fued continues til I get ahead on the paralyzed scence. Finally, Tauros goes down.

Fish 5-4

He sends out Mewtwo. After pointless (surfing) bickering, his Mewtwo self destructs and Mie and Two are both down.

Fish 4-3

His Trio meets my Kazam. He meets a critical hit psychic, end Dugtrio.

Fish 4-2

He sends out Mew, for whatever reason. He promptly switches out for Rapidash, who eats a special droppin' psychic. I like Kazam, so I send in Tauros. A desperate Fanny launches a horn drill which fails and eats a hyper beam.

Fish 4-1

Out comes a paralyzed Mew against a faster Tauros. I didnt realize I was so far ahead a this point. After ten to fifteen rounds of me hyper beaming/recharging to his softboiled/being fully paralyzed, I faint the damn Mew.

Fish 4-0

See pussies? Its not hard to take out Mew/Mewtwo. Just play smart. Yeesh.

[This message has been edited by Fish151PKMN (edited 02-03-2001).]


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posted 02-03-2001 11:04 AM      Profile for TeeJay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fishy-snap sees the light, no matter how blurry it may be for him.

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posted 02-03-2001 11:33 AM      Profile for Jenova   Author's Homepage   Email Jenova   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*pats Fish on the back and makes him a coffee*
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posted 02-03-2001 07:00 PM      Profile for Jumpman16   Author's Homepage   Email Jumpman16   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I love putting down Mew(two).

Charizard?

That'z another story...refer to sig.

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and its not like fanha used the best movesets for m and m2 either.
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posted 02-04-2001 12:17 AM      Profile for Dredite   Email Dredite   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You know what, that rather annoys me. Honestly, people. Mewtwo and Mew are NOT that hard to kill. I see the best of them fall all the time. The only people who complain are the ones who cannot adapt, or grow BETTER at the game, and simply copy other people's movesets, relying on pure power to win, rather than actually thinking.

Do you honestly think they're unstoppable? x.x And have to insult everyone who says otherwise, no matter how good the person is?

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Whoa, that's weird. When I beat Fanha's Mew/2 team with my non-power team, I was really drunk too. Krazy. o.O

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Good win, Mew and mewtwo aren't hard to take down but they do make the battle a little easier. BTW once my Tauros took down a full health Mewtwo and mew.

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THis was totally pathetic Mewtwo with self-destruct. Um well no wonder you beat Fanha.

Very pathetic is all I can say.

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I support you in your anti-bitching campaign!

... except for Starmie....

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Just further evidence that supports my point.
Clauses and restrictions are for weak little players that refuse to adapt, they are handicaps, they are defilements that water down the perfect equilibrium of the game.

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Jumpman16
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You think that Pokémon has perfect equilibrium?!
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Jumpman, TGD hasn't been the same since that Snorlax fell on his head...

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TGD hasnt ever been okay. I think he's a little kooky from losing to TAFKA if you ask me =P.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
Clauses and restrictions are for weak little players that refuse to adapt, they are handicaps, they are defilements that water down the perfect equilibrium of the game.


Oh, shut up.

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The Great Dreamer
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...truth hurts PsyBro, it's O.K., you'll live...

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Mr. K
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posted 02-18-2001 04:45 AM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jumpman16: You think that Pokémon has perfect equilibrium?!

You should have seen the argument where he said that Metapod is a valid choice for a tournament-level team...


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posted 02-18-2001 01:15 PM      Profile for Dragonite21     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's wrong with Metapod?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
...truth hurts PsyBro, it's O.K., you'll live...



Oh, shut up.


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quote:
Originally posted by Psybro:
Oh, shut up.

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Oh, shut up.

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Oh, shut up.

...What do you mean, this isnt a Shut Up contest?

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The Great Dreamer
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Mr. K,
It seems you have conviniently forggoten when my argument was that the use of a metapod would be a suicide switch followed by a clean switch and then I realized AND posted that this could also be done with any pokemon and thus my statement was wrong because the concept could be excersized with other, more useful pokemon.
Now, why do you suppose you conviniently forggot about that, hmm?
Why did you just happen to remember the part of the conversation that shows my point of view BEFORE I corrected it?
This selective memory crap is only a way to look for amunition to attack my beliefs.

...and for those of you that do not think that the True Pokemon Way has perfect equilibrium, stop attacking and start bringing forth any evidence that you think prooves otherwise...

...I;m not here for a flame war, I'm here to proove a point now bring it...

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Mr. K
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posted 02-19-2001 03:54 AM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, shut up.

Seriously, tho, you have a lot of just plain silly and indefensible ideas. I was just bringing that up as an example of why no one should get too upset by anything you say, since you frequently make no sense whatsoever and often don't think thru what you're saying.

Getting upset with you is like getting pissed off because the man arguing with the lamppost doesn't agree with your ideas on foreign policy or the number of elbows a typical human should have...


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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
...and for those of you that do not think that the True Pokemon Way has perfect equilibrium, stop attacking and start bringing forth any evidence that you think prooves otherwise...


It helps if you just use some bloody common sense.
With no sleep clause, my Lovely Kiss/Reflect/Blizzard/Seismic Toss Jynx could easily rip through half your team. If said Jynx had Double Rest over Reflect and Blizzard, and had fully PP-Upped Seismic Toss, I shudder to think.
If, on top of that, I backed it up with a Sleep Powdering Exeggutor and maybe a Parasect...

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That doesn't mean Mew/2 aren't cheap though... Ya killed the Mewtwo ONLY cause it used self-destruct, and the Mew only because 'ya paralized it, and all it was doing was using horn drill.

Not to mention that his Mewtwo never even attacked, and never even powered up with amnesia.

So Mew/2 are still evil mofos that should burn.

w00t

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The Great Dreamer
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Mr. K,
Through all these insults I don't see anything that prooves otherwise.
I mean, you seems to me like you know so damn much about Pokemon, why don't you tell me why the True Pokemon Way (Trade, Train and Tactics) that balances the game, is flawed like you are claiming it to be?
This is what I'm saying in this argument, that since the game is balanced by default, further alterations harm the game's equilibrium wich is overlooked by popular pokemon bias.
Small example;
Sleep Clause=fucks with=buterfrees
Trying to use a butterfree without it's precious Sleep Powder freedom makes this pokemon so dificult to use is not even worth it, it completely murders all the potential out of these butterfly pokemon.
See? No insults, only presentation of points of view. If I'm wrong, dont worry, I'll accept it like I have done before, there is nothing wrong in admiting you're wrong but so far no wave of arguments have been able to topple this foundation wich is why I'm do damn sure that what I'm percieving is the total Truth...you're turn...

Psybro,
You don't listen to words, do you?
Do you really think a jynx would own all?
Have you ever tried it?

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Without a sleep clause a Jynx might not sweep an entire team but can take down most of one. A moveset better for doing this than the previously listed one is lovely kiss, blizzard, seismic toss, and substitute and it is very hard to stop. If your opponent starts with a slower Pokemon and if you're not too unlucky your foe has almost no chance of winning. You lovely kiss the first Pokemon, sub, then lovely kiss if they switch and if they don't, attack. Replace the sub when needed and only when it's reasonably safe. Using this strategy I once took out five Pokemon out of my opponent's team of six. She finally fell to my opponent's explosion with his fifth Pokemon.

quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
Do you really think a jynx would own all?
Have you ever tried it?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:

Do you really think a jynx would own all?
Have you ever tried it?


Well, no species clause means I can use six Jynx.
No sleep clause means I can put as many enemy Pokémon asleep as I can.
Try 'adapting' to a whole team of Jynx in these circumstances.

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Mr. K
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posted 02-20-2001 07:20 PM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
TGD, you've proved time and again that it's not worth discussing any topic with you.

My message was more as a warning to others to not take your bait.


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The Great Dreamer
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Neo and Psybro,
If your opponent fell down that easily to the jynx chances are he either didn't play it right or his team, like most, did not take in consideration counter-sleep.
Also, remember that in the real battles, the GB battles, you can always pre-status alter your pokemon with poison or burns...
You guys need to think about the game enviroment in it's truest form wich is in the GB enviroment, NOT PBS...
...and about that 6 jynx team, first, remember that you must aquire the jynxes first by trading, a pain-in-the-ass task all in itself, then most likely it won't have perfect genes so you got to do some heavy breeding. Then, even if you have 6 platinum perfect jynxes there are other pokemon that are faster than jynxes that are able to pull an evasion move, adding insult to Lovely Kiss's inacuracy.
The more elemental similarities amongst your pokemon in your team, the more weak to a single effective variable it will become...

Mr. K,
Well then if that is your decision and you refuse to add any feedback to the subject and support your P.O.V., shut the Hell up, if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch...

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[This message has been edited by The Great Dreamer (edited 02-21-2001).]


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Psybro
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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:

You guys need to think about the game enviroment in it's truest form wich is in the GB enviroment, NOT PBS...


'Truest form'? I'm sorry, I thought Pokémon was a game like any other which had bugs that required fixing, but clearly R/B/Y is special in some way. Well, it's obvious that the programmers were all brilliant people, cleverly disguising Focus Energy as a move that actually did something useful when it was really a glitch designed to enfuriate us all.
If R/B/Y is the game's purest form, I'm sure you don't object to Missingno being used to get extra items?

I'm sorry, but Pokémon is unbalanced as fuck.
Sure, sleep clause restricts Butterfree, but I refuse to believe Butterfree was ever viable up against the most popular Prime Cup monsters. So, while sleep clause restricts Pokémon who are too crappy to bother with anyway (unless you really like them), it also stops Exeggutor and Jynx from going completely nuts.
Also, species clause saves us all from the horror of a six-Mewtwo team.
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Psybro: I'm sorry, but Pokémon is unbalanced as fuck.

Obviously.

I did warn you against arguing with the village idiot, tho, didn't I? Save your breath...


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Ok...

My name is Robert.

Let's see you argue your way out of this one.


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The Great Dreamer
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Psybro,
"'Truest form'? I'm sorry, I thought Pokémon was a game like any other which had bugs that required fixing, but clearly R/B/Y is special in some way."
You're not fucking listening, I said that the GB game is the REAL Pokemon game as opposed to the Pokemon Battle SIMULATOR.

"Well, it's obvious that the programmers were all brilliant people, cleverly disguising Focus Energy as a move that actually did something useful when it was really a glitch designed to enfuriate us all.
If R/B/Y is the game's purest form, I'm sure you don't object to Missingno being used to get extra items?"
When did I say that Chromatics where it's purest form? Hmm?

"I'm sorry, but Pokémon is unbalanced as fuck."

O.K., proove it...I can proove it isn't which is why I know I'm right...

"Sure, sleep clause restricts Butterfree, but I refuse to believe Butterfree was ever viable up against the most popular Prime Cup monsters. So, while sleep clause restricts Pokémon who are too crappy to bother with anyway (unless you really like them), it also stops Exeggutor and Jynx from going completely nuts."
This prooves right there that the clauses and restrictions are fueled purely by pokemon bias, thus unbalancing the game.
Sure, that there is no problem with sleep clause in this example because most weak pokemon use Sleep so make up for crappy stats/move sets, but God forbbid a game enviroment where there is Paralysis clause, oh no! Can't go that route because the all popular pokemon would seriously get screwed without their precious Paralysis!
This is NOT balance, the restrictions only make a bias game enviroment where most unpopular pokemon cannot compete...
Exeggutors and jynxes only go nuts unless you know how to counter sleep, wich you obviously, like most, do not know shit about sleep countering tactics...

"Also, species clause saves us all from the horror of a six-Mewtwo team."
You're not listening to what I'm saying, are you? I already explained the balancing factors of multiple species use but it just blew right through your head...I'm not gong to repeat myself again...


Mr. K,
Oh, shut up...
Resolve to insults since you have nothing better to contribute nor a way to proove your P.O.V.

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TGD: Resolve to insults since you have nothing better to contribute nor a way to proove your P.O.V.

See?

He doesn't even speak English.

Don't poke the troll.

You might as well argue with an aardvark.


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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
...but God forbbid a game enviroment where there is Paralysis clause, oh no! Can't go that route because the all popular pokemon would seriously get screwed without their precious Paralysis!


I would enjoy the fuck outta this. Wouldn't have to worry about making sure to have T-Wave on 'Mie and 'Zam...one of them would be free to have a really cool set, dropping T-Wave for Blizz or Light Screen for 'Mie, or Kinesis or Sub or S-Toss on 'Zam...the possibilities.

*gets sucked in*

But this brings up a topic you should address. Do you think that the perfect balance of Pokémon intended for every poke to have T-Wave? Keep in mind that pokes like 'Mie or 'Bro and even Chansey, to some extent, would be less popular without T-Wave, and that the reason that peeps use them is because of their T-Wave. Is this really perfect balance?


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Jumpman,
Whoe! Do I hear a vote towards Paralysis Clause!? LOL! Let's just ban all damn status alteration moves unless they are side effects, yeah, that's it!
...seriously though, it is only perfect balance if all the variables are included and if the players do not break the rules.
Remember that Thunder Wave is a rare TM, the most you can do with it is breed it to other pokemon and trade for them wich would be a bit more difficult and balancing the move.
There are many ways to balance variables and situation what most people think are broken.
You just have to think in the GB enviroment and leave no stone unturned when looking for them...

We should have a tournament where everyone gets the rare TM for their teams and trades around with no restritions or bans except for maybe the pokemon that have no gender and put a clause on them.
...or, at would also work is asign all the pokemon with points and have the players have certain amount of points to buy certain types, or...I dunno....
I'll best leave the tourney stuff to SC, he's the expert.... =^)

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
O.K., proove it...I can proove it isn't which is why I know I'm right...


Why should I bother?
Use your own fucking brain.

Try fighting a Mewtwo with a Raticate one of these days.

Exeggutors and jynxes only go nuts unless you know how to counter sleep, wich you obviously, like most, do not know shit about sleep countering tactics...

Humour me. What are these 'sleep countering tactics'?



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Psybro,
I already mentioned 2, the accuracy attacks and the pre-status.
You can also Confuse, Paralyze and Disable, but the pre-status and the attacks of the sleep move's already low accuracy are the more effective, not to mention, ofcourse, another sleep move.
Also, I'm not saying that every pokemon can take on any pokemon, but that there is a cycle in the game where there is no defenite powerful tactic or pokemon, everything has a counter...everything...

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Oh, shut up.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
Also, I'm not saying that every pokemon can take on any pokemon, but that there is a cycle in the game where there is no defenite powerful tactic or pokemon, everything has a counter...everything...


Agreed. But how are you supposed to know which counters to use? There is a counter to everything, but with only 6 Pokémon with 4 moves available to you at any given time, there are always going to be situations when you're caught out by an unexpected moveset.

I happen to think you're far more likely to be caught out by Chansey than by Fearow.


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Psybro: I happen to think you're far more likely to be caught out by Chansey than by Fearow.

...or Metapod.


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Psybro,
6 pokemon and 4 moves each is not going to let you cover all possible variables.
At this level some teams would become more effective against other type of teams, like the Elemental system of the pokemon except that instead of elements, it's tactics.
This is why it's good to change your team around to adapt to the game enviroment you are playing in. Always have more than just 6 pokemon ready to fight, you should have at least a Box full of battle ready pokemon.
Chanseys are more popular in the limited game enviroment that is mostly practiced.
So, it all depends on the enviroment.

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Whatever.
I'm too lazy to carry on debating.

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