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Annon
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posted 01-24-2001 06:32 PM      Profile for Annon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Foreword:
I ask only experienced PBS users to fill out the following examination. The purpose of this examination is to better understand the psyche of Pokétrainers when placed in particular metagame situations.

All things are equal in the following scenarios! Which means you shouldn’t reply with extraordinary answers such as; “I wouldn’t do that because I don’t play that way” or “I’d get a Critical Hit and the problem wouldn’t be there!”. Please answer these questions with sincere explanations within the realm of conceivable gameplay.

1. If an opponent started with a Grass-type and successfully put your starting Pokémon asleep, would you leave the starting Pokémon in battle? If so, how many turns would you leave the sleeping Pokémon in battle before switching it out? Otherwise, would you immediately switch the starting Pokémon out of battle?

2. If an Attack-based opponent screeched your evasion Pokémon, would you continue using Double Team/Minimize? Or would you switch that Pokémon out of combat?

3. If an opponent’s Pokémon had low HP and was most likely going use Explosion the next turn, would you switch out to another Pokémon? If so, what Pokémon would you switch to? Otherwise, you’re implying you’d let the current Pokémon receive the Explosion, correct?

4. If an opponent attacks your Pokémon with a relatively weak move, even though it should be able to use an extremely powerful attack, would you assume the opponent is attempting to be devious? Or would you consider them unprepared for that particular Pokémon and continue playing normally?

5. If an opponent switches in a Pokémon with high Speed, would you purposely switch in a Pokémon with a paralysis move in an attempt to paralyze the opponent?

6. How does your primary team of Pokémon rate in the category of Speed (three fast, two medium, one slow; use best judgment when categorizing Speed)? What order do you naturally play your Pokémon: Fast Pokémon first, then Slow Pokémon? Slow Pokémon first, then Fast Pokémon?

7. How many Pokémon on your team use attack moves without STAB? What is the purpose of these moves: To counter a weakness? To Freeze? Furthermore, do these moves receive a boost in power from moves such as Amnesia or Growth?

I greatly appreciate the time given by all those who have answered this Examination.

Mucho Gracias,
-Greg

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...

*runs*

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LugiaStorm
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Hmm...dunno if I qualify as an experienced PBS'er, but, ah well. ^_^;;

quote:
Originally posted by Annon:
Foreword:
I ask only experienced PBS users to fill out the following examination. The purpose of this examination is to better understand the psyche of Pokétrainers when placed in particular metagame situations.

All things are equal in the following scenarios! Which means you shouldn’t reply with extraordinary answers such as; “I wouldn’t do that because I don’t play that way” or “I’d get a Critical Hit and the problem wouldn’t be there!”. Please answer these questions with sincere explanations within the realm of conceivable gameplay.

1. If an opponent started with a Grass-type and successfully put your starting Pokémon asleep, would you leave the starting Pokémon in battle? If so, how many turns would you leave the sleeping Pokémon in battle before switching it out? Otherwise, would you immediately switch the starting Pokémon out of battle?

It all depends...hmm...hard one. But, this [i]is for PBS, in which almost all battles are sleep clause, so, switch, most likely. Or predict them switching to something the thing you're weak to, and then switch when they attack. Hard to predict...[/i]

2. If an Attack-based opponent screeched your evasion Pokémon, would you continue using Double Team/Minimize? Or would you switch that Pokémon out of combat?

Hmmm...again, depends. I would switch to something with a high defense, methinks. DT isn't assurance that you won't get hit.

3. If an opponent’s Pokémon had low HP and was most likely going use Explosion the next turn, would you switch out to another Pokémon? If so, what Pokémon would you switch to? Otherwise, you’re implying you’d let the current Pokémon receive the Explosion, correct?

Hmmmmm...hard. When playing Crazed Aipom, I went for the obvious and switched to Rhydon, absorbing the Explosion. Leave it in and finish it. The only fast Exploder (I think) is Electrode, and my Rhydon would already be out for that.

4. If an opponent attacks your Pokémon with a relatively weak move, even though it should be able to use an extremely powerful attack, would you assume the opponent is attempting to be devious? Or would you consider them unprepared for that particular Pokémon and continue playing normally?

heh, again. Playing on people's emotions are fun, getting them to switch. Uhhh, I'd, um, switch. lol

5. If an opponent switches in a Pokémon with high Speed, would you purposely switch in a Pokémon with a paralysis move in an attempt to paralyze the opponent?

No. Simply, no. Paralysis bait is mean, and easy to spot.

6. How does your primary team of Pokémon rate in the category of Speed (three fast, two medium, one slow; use best judgment when categorizing Speed)? What order do you naturally play your Pokémon: Fast Pokémon first, then Slow Pokémon? Slow Pokémon first, then Fast Pokémon?

3 fast, 3 slow. XD, I have heavy paralysis though. I play slow as my starter. Um...I then go to fast, and clean up with slow, I guess.

7. How many Pokémon on your team use attack moves without STAB? What is the purpose of these moves: To counter a weakness? To Freeze? Furthermore, do these moves receive a boost in power from moves such as Amnesia or Growth?

Um...all of them have STAB...'cept Chansey, considering its attack and all...

I greatly appreciate the time given by all those who have answered this Examination.

Mucho Gracias,
-Greg

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Hope I did okay. ^_^;;


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Windex
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Worthy eh? *cracks his knuckles* Bring it on!

1. Blah blah blah, etc.

It depends on whether or not the sleep clause was in effect... but most likely one turn. Why one turn you ask? Well it's obvious! Leaving it in one turn gives you a buffer for any other Sleep Powders or Stun Spores for people suspecting a switch. Of course must people aren't stupid enough to fall for it more than once, thus the switch.

2. Uh.. I'd leave it in unless the evasion poke had lowish health.

3. Tough call. If I had a Rock or high defense pokemon I'd probably send it in. However, if the pokemon I had out currently had Rest/Recover/etc., good health and I thought it could survive the explosion, I'd probably leave it in and have it recover HP the next turn.

4. It depends on the person. Say I was fighting TGD, I'd expect some develishly scheming strategy using String Shot, Psybeam and Reflect on a Butterfree. If it was someone like GK though, I'd laugh and not give it a second thought.

5. Usually.

6. Ack. I haven't had a team in awhile. I usually try to go for a couple fast pokemon and then let the rest slide. There's no specific order I'd play them. Just as I needed the pokemon.

7. Usually a couple. I don't have a team right now so I couldn't give you an exact count. =P If they don't have STAB it's usually because I've got a stat boosting move or because they just don't learn any good attacks of their type. Aerodactyl, for example.

...Boo!

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Words to live up to, ne?

I have come out of this a little more knowledgeable and a lot more disturbed.


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quote:
Originally posted by mewtwo's fortress:

*runs*


*is not far behind*


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1. I'd switch out immediately, and let sleep clause protect me.
2. I'd continue evading, provided said Pokémon had the ability to survive a hit and recover.
3. I'd switch to Sandslash, Rhydon or Golem, depending on my currrent team.
4. I'd assume they were up to something.
5. Yes.
6. I have two fast, one medium and three slow. I play one of my fast ones to begin, then switch out to a slower one, with better stats.
7. They all have at least one non-STAB move, to counter weaknesses and to take advantage of Amnesia.


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read most of the questions...not all...and to answer all of the ones i read in one statement- it all depends on who i am fighting. if they're idiots or i think they are ( i can usually tell... ) i play it on the edge, if they're half idiots meaning they kinda know what they're doing but think they know it all and know what your going to do, i play mind games with em, switch to something else when they think im not, do moves that are resistant to them on purpose so theyll b afraid to switch or u know think im stupid so theyll let their guard down, or if they're the type of trainer i respect, in which i play at my status quo. these types are pretty rare. and if luck is involved and im about to lose, i do things, stupid things, to end the battle quickly, i dont try to do any come from behinds that would take ch's, fp's, extreme luck to pull off. and i do not evade...ever...u dont need it to win, trust me.

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Deranged
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*Shruxxors*

1. If an opponent started with a Grass-type and successfully put your starting Pokémon asleep, would you leave the starting Pokémon in battle? If so, how many turns would you leave the sleeping Pokémon in battle before switching it out? Otherwise, would you immediately switch the starting Pokémon out of battle?

Well, it all depends what my starter is. If it's something that's strong to the Grass type, then chances are I would leave it out. If it's not, then I'd switch. Also, in the case of Victreebel and Exeggutor, I might keep the Sleeping Pokémon out for an extra turn to absorb a possible concomitant Stun Spore.

2. If an Attack-based opponent screeched your evasion Pokémon, would you continue using Double Team/Minimize? Or would you switch that Pokémon out of combat?

Once again, it all depends. If it's end-game or I'm sure that the opponent's remaining Pokémon has only one physical Pokémon left (I:E the one who's Screeching), then I'll go for it. Otherwise, I'd most likely take an opportune time to switch out, like after two Screeches, since it's likely that a Hyper Beam will follow.

3. If an opponent’s Pokémon had low HP and was most likely going use Explosion the next turn, would you switch out to another Pokémon? If so, what Pokémon would you switch to? Otherwise, you’re implying you’d let the current Pokémon receive the Explosion, correct?

Of course, especially given that I have Gengar on my team. >=) A Golem or Rhydon would also take Explosions fairly well.

4. If an opponent attacks your Pokémon with a relatively weak move, even though it should be able to use an extremely powerful attack, would you assume the opponent is attempting to be devious? Or would you consider them unprepared for that particular Pokémon and continue playing normally?

Well, except in certain circumstances (Tauros's Blizzard--->Hyper Beam OHKO on Alakazam, for example), I'd probably just keep playing normally.

5. If an opponent switches in a Pokémon with high Speed, would you purposely switch in a Pokémon with a paralysis move in an attempt to paralyze the opponent?

It depends that if the paralyzer can get in and paralyze without dying first, or if it just isn't worth it. For example, if I had a Dugtrio out and the opponent sends in Aerodactyl, I'd much rather Try to Rock Slide the Aerodactyl and get some solid damage in than to switch in an Alakazam to eat a potentially dangerous Double-Edge/Hyper Beam combo. And of course, there's the fact that many people protect their fast sweepers a lot, and basically try their best not to get them paralyzed.

6. How does your primary team of Pokémon rate in the category of Speed (three fast, two medium, one slow; use best judgment when categorizing Speed)? What order do you naturally play your Pokémon: Fast Pokémon first, then Slow Pokémon? Slow Pokémon first, then Fast Pokémon?

I have two different teams now...on my first, I have 3 fast, one above average, one average, 1 slow, and I tend to start with the faster Pokémon.

On my second team, I have...well, 5 fast guys, and one above-average guy. So it's not exactly easy to start with anything other than a fast guy. =P

7. How many Pokémon on your team use attack moves without STAB? What is the purpose of these moves: To counter a weakness? To Freeze? Furthermore, do these moves receive a boost in power from moves such as Amnesia or Growth?

Hm. I have tons of non-STAB moves on both of my teams. They're basically for the EMG, which in effect is pretty much countering weaknesses. I don't use moves that boost their effectiveness though.

*Runs off from unfamilar territory*

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The Great Dreamer
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All of these question have many different answers according to the situation and battle psychology...

Psybro said "1. I'd switch out immediately, and let sleep clause protect me."

This right here proves why clauses are for the weak and unskilled....

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1) I would probably switch out, and have sleep clause say "huzzah".

2) Not really, since most common pokemon have special based attacks, and have little to no physical attacks, and that pokemon who DO use physical attacks have low special, and that most DT pokemon are special-based ones...

3) Most pokemon that use explosion are too slow to use it very well, like Golem, Eggy, and 'Lax (explosion, self-destruct, whatever) so I would just finish them off. Gengar and Electrode have fast speed, but their attacks are horrible... I would PROBABLY switch to rhydon in that situation.

4) I would consider them a newbie, and proceed to mow them down, unless they are a tauros using blizzard on a 'zam if I have one, in which case...

5) Most pokemon with high speed are the ones that use paralysis in the first place, so I dont like to sacrafice the speed of my paralizers. I would probably go rhydon or something if it's a fast paralizer. If not, yeah, I'd paralize it.

6) 3 fast, 1 medium, and 2 slow.

7) T-bolt on my Starmie, to kill other water types, of course, Earthquake on my Tauros for ghost types, Surf on Raichu for ground types, Explosion on Eggy for last-resort stuffage, Submission on Rhydon for some reason, of which was the intent for anti-normal, but no, and there's nothing better to put there, and... my 6th doesnt have a non-stab attack.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:
Psybro said "1. I'd switch out immediately, and let sleep clause protect me."

This right here proves why clauses are for the weak and unskilled....



Quiet, you.
I invite you to battle someone using Parasect as an opener.
Not as if that would actually happen, but...

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1. If an opponent started with a Grass-type and successfully put your starting Pokémon asleep, would you leave the starting Pokémon in battle? If so, how many turns would you leave the sleeping Pokémon in battle before switching it out? Otherwise, would you immediately switch the starting Pokémon out of battle?

I would wait a a turn or two first, just in case the opponent believes I would switch immediately.

2. If an Attack-based opponent screeched your evasion Pokémon, would you continue using Double Team/Minimize? Or would you switch that Pokémon out of combat?

Keep up the Double Teaming to a reasonable level (3 or 4) and then get the sucka outta there.

3. If an opponent’s Pokémon had low HP and was most likely going use Explosion the next turn, would you switch out to another Pokémon? If so, what Pokémon would you switch to? Otherwise, you’re implying you’d let the current Pokémon receive the Explosion, correct?

I would switch to a near-dead Pokemon.

4. If an opponent attacks your Pokémon with a relatively weak move, even though it should be able to use an extremely powerful attack, would you assume the opponent is attempting to be devious? Or would you consider them unprepared for that particular Pokémon and continue playing normally?

Play normally.

5. If an opponent switches in a Pokémon with high Speed, would you purposely switch in a Pokémon with a paralysis move in an attempt to paralyze the opponent?

Nope. If current Pokemon faints then the paralyzer comes in.

6. How does your primary team of Pokémon rate in the category of Speed (three fast, two medium, one slow; use best judgment when categorizing Speed)? What order do you naturally play your Pokémon: Fast Pokémon first, then Slow Pokémon? Slow Pokémon first, then Fast Pokémon?

3 fast, 3 medium.

Fast first.

7. How many Pokémon on your team use attack moves without STAB? What is the purpose of these moves: To counter a weakness? To Freeze? Furthermore, do these moves receive a boost in power from moves such as Amnesia or Growth?

A large multitude of them. To counter weaknesses and unpredictability.freezing. No boosts.

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1. If an opponent started with a Grass-type and successfully put your starting Pokémon asleep, would you leave the starting Pokémon in battle? If so, how many turns would you leave the sleeping Pokémon in battle before switching it out? Otherwise, would you immediately switch the starting Pokémon out of battle?

Depends. If Sleep Clause is in effect, then I'd switch immediately. If not, I'd probably leave is in for 1 or 2 turns before switiching, to try and get an idea of what the opponent is doing.

2. If an Attack-based opponent screeched your evasion Pokémon, would you continue using Double Team/Minimize? Or would you switch that Pokémon out of combat?

Depends on how far I am through the DT. However, most times I'd leave it in. I might take it out if I can't take the screecher in 2 or 3 hits, or if I'm slower and only just began DTing.

3. If an opponent’s Pokémon had low HP and was most likely going use Explosion the next turn, would you switch out to another Pokémon? If so, what Pokémon would you switch to? Otherwise, you’re implying you’d let the current Pokémon receive the Explosion, correct?

On most occasions, I'd switch to Rhydon and let it take the explosion.

4. If an opponent attacks your Pokémon with a relatively weak move, even though it should be able to use an extremely powerful attack, would you assume the opponent is attempting to be devious? Or would you consider them unprepared for that particular Pokémon and continue playing normally?

I'd be very wary of letting the pokés HP go too low. They'd pobably be sofening it up for an explosion or hyper beam.

5. If an opponent switches in a Pokémon with high Speed, would you purposely switch in a Pokémon with a paralysis move in an attempt to paralyze the opponent?

I'd probably use Starmie to paralyze it. Unless I know it should have a paralyzing move itself, in which case I'd one of my other paralyzers which is almost always paralyzed itself after the early game.

6. How does your primary team of Pokémon rate in the category of Speed (three fast, two medium, one slow; use best judgment when categorizing Speed)? What order do you naturally play your Pokémon: Fast Pokémon first, then Slow Pokémon? Slow Pokémon first, then Fast Pokémon?

Three fast, three slow. Open with fast, and stay with fast unless I need any of the slows for their elements or moves.

7. How many Pokémon on your team use attack moves without STAB? What is the purpose of these moves: To counter a weakness? To Freeze? Furthermore, do these moves receive a boost in power from moves such as Amnesia or Growth?

Three do. They use them to complement their movesets in terms of super effectiveness. One recives boosts in the form of focus energy.

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1. I'd stay in and blow him to hell with Ice Beam once I woke up, unless Sleep Clause was in, in which case I would switch.

2. I'd switch. Screw it - what good is Double Resting if you can be blown to hell in a second?

3. I would try to take it out before it Exploded, but otherwise I'd switch my Rhydon or Snorlax in to take the brunt.

4. I take him for a newbie and keep fighting.

5. Four of my guys have PAR moves anyway, but I'd just wait until it got to that, and go as is for now.

6. Three slow, three fast. I lead with Snorlax to try and take a bite out of them.

7. Only two. One is for diversity and the other is to take advantage of Amnesia.

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quote:
Originally posted by Psybro:
I invite you to battle someone using Parasect as an opener.
Not as if that would actually happen, but...


You don't know how crazy TGD iz.

And you've clearly never seen his TGDProjectTwelve.

BTW TGD, don't you think that if there were no sleep clauze, there would be a hell of alot more people opening with Eggy or Jynx or said 'Sect?


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quote:
Originally posted by Jumpman16:
BTW TGD, don't you think that if there were no sleep clauze, there would be a hell of alot more people opening with Eggy or Jynx or said 'Sect?


Hell, it just occured to me that when I went to a tour a coupla weeks ago, they had 3 on 3 battles with no sleep clause.
My Jynx raped everyone except for some guy's Hyper Beaming Mewtwo.
OK, so they were all newbies, but the fact remains that a Jynx with Lovely Kiss/DT/Rest/Seismic Toss would be pretty bloody hard to beat without sleep clause.

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