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Jman
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posted 01-07-2001 09:01 PM
Since I last came to Azure boards, 3 tournys/leagues were made. What came to my mind is.... the tournys are only for 8 or so people in each team(or if its a league, in a division). But what if someone made an incredibally large league with a lot of people? Its a large task, and I am not up to it(As some may remember from my league...), but maybe someone could organise this.Now everyone says, but there would be too many people not battling! Simple, if one pair does not battle in the time alloted, throw em out, unless they make an attempt to battle their opponent. You have to be strict about these things, for it to work. Do we want to try this? Someone want to step up? Give me comments, or something.... remember its just an idea.... ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls."
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Sneakerton
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posted 01-07-2001 10:45 PM
Well, I dunno if it's of any use to you or not...But as soon as the CLST ends, I'm gonna be organizing a 64 player Double Elimination tournament with "alliances" rather than clear-cut board teams. Still working out the exact method of signup, but needless to say, it'll be relatively free entry. That is, assuming people actually want to play in it. There are so many tournaments going on that I'm not sure someone's holding a better one than me. Oh well. I guess we'll see. ------------------ "I'm a pussy." - mr k mouth
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Jman
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posted 01-08-2001 04:46 PM
I find teams to be discouraging to new people or not-so-great players, as the boards/team dosn't want them to be in it, because they want the best from their board(which is understandable, but still). Anyways, thanks for the complement. And sneakerton, thats getting towards what I was thinking. 64 is a lot of people, so maybe we should try it, and see what happens. Then, if it works, maybe you or me or someone else could organise an even larger tourney! And see who the real champion is! ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls."
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Jman
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posted 01-08-2001 04:54 PM
Just anouther quick reply to my own message... I think I may have just come up with the best idea for a large scale tournament. It sortof has teams, but they arn't necessary. Now say we have 4 boards(this is just an example, there could be more, or less). Each board has sign ups, and up to say, 64 people from each board. Now the boards have their own tournament, that narrows it down to 16 or 8 people(or something, it depends on the number of boards/places). Then we combine those into a tourney, using the stats they had in the previous tournament, to make them into seeds or places(such as a first seed, like in March Madness college bball). The tourney then plays out. And we have a winner! It would have to be double/triple ellimination, for the stats to actually have some meaning. Or forget the stats, and just put them in random order. ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls."
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Jman
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posted 01-09-2001 04:53 PM
Sneak, I held a tourney(actually, A league) a while ago, with only like 24 people. And it was tough. I know, thats why I can't take this incredibally huge task. White Cat, I also know that. Well, there has to be a way to have a first tourney, and then, take that and move on to the finals. I assume tho, that some of the boards didn't have such a large tounament, I know azure did, but nothing else. ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls."
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Jman
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posted 01-13-2001 06:19 PM
I have a new idea, but this involves having a group of "Judges". In this league, say we have oh... 100 people. Now with this we randomly create a season with like 10 matches(so say I am one guy, and then I am randomly paired with Sneakerton in Round 1.). So we give them a deadline to find those ten people and battle them(2 months or so). They get a record, and the top 32(64?) make the playoffs. Straight tourney from there, with the top seed battling the bottom seed, 2nd with 2nd to last, etc.So hows that? Its like the college basketball thing, just instead of having a time you have a deadline to battle. EDIT: Forgot to add about the Judges. Basically the are on PBS whenever they feel like it, and they see if people are making an effort to compete. If no one sees someone for a large quantity of time without, say an email explaining the problem/whatever, they are booted, and the people who have a match against them get a free win. Heck, we could also have the judges have a "Top 25", and rank different people! ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls." [This message has been edited by Jman (edited 01-13-2001).]
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Jman
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posted 01-13-2001 09:41 PM
I found the Formula the Monkey League:Example: Bob has 5 wins and 7 losses. So he has a score of 103. How? 5 wins x 2= 10 7 losses x 1=7 10 - 7= 3 100 + 3= 103 That works preatty well. It makes people have to try and win as many games as possible without having them win like 2 and lose 0 and win the division. ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls."
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Power Soul Rebirth
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posted 01-13-2001 10:36 PM
Well, this is what I've found. It's a bit more complex than the Monkey system, but I rekon it would work well. If it looks familiar, it might be, as it's an adaptation or the Starcraft ladder system.Each player has a rating, for players who have not played before, this rating is 1000. Each player also has a number associated with them (N), which is either 50, 30 or 20. 50 is for people who haven't played much, 30 for normal players and 20 for players with very high ratings. When a game is played, the winner's rating is increased by N * (1 - K) and the loser's rating is reduced by N * (K). K is calculated by the following formula : K = 1 / (1 + 10^((difference in ratings) / 400)) ...I just noticed that that IS kinda complex, but it shouldn't pose too much of a problem. ^_^;; ------------------ Even at his most powerless, man's exsistance is never without meaning.
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Jman
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posted 01-14-2001 06:58 PM
Yeah... I still don't fully understand it....Ehh... Wanna start this after the CLST? Or not? Dosn't matter to me, I've got webspace, know HTML, etc. I could use help, if you would like, or if Sneak wants, I could help him. ------------------ A wise pokemon trainer once said- "You can not catch even the strongest pokemon, until you get some balls."
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Jumpman16
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posted 01-16-2001 06:11 PM
Yeah, the idea's brilliant, but it's still flawed for one major reason; some people can be rather assish. I used to play Spades: Ladders at Yahoo!®.com under the same idea, but when people get to be of rather high rank, they really don't want to play anyone of a lower rank. The reasons are twofold: They would rather play the #1 or #2 ranked player in order to raise their own rank, and they don't want to risk a defeat to said player with lower rank. Hence it's understandable why a higher ranked player would be reluctant to play a lower ranked player. Most people would actually react in a similar manner. Nevertheless, this does not relieve them of their assish label. Therefore, a different method of determining/recognizing rank is worth examining.
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