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Argo
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posted 06-18-2000 03:34 PM      Profile for Argo   Email Argo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The entire GameFAQS board votes no mewtwo..

6 out of 8 from UPN vote NO

thats 14 so far..

Spacedog and Shamrock from the RPGamer rep team vote NO

Starcaliber,also...voted NO

Thats 17,we win...

NO mewtwo...

See star caliber?your vote DID make a difference..

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posted 06-18-2000 03:39 PM      Profile for branners   Author's Homepage   Email branners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yey!

Just got to sort out freeze clause now. Hmph..

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Thank you for saying that Argo. I feel much more important now.

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posted 06-18-2000 03:50 PM      Profile for TeeJay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, now maybe the debate will finally end. That's that. Freeze clause? I say no. There's too much chance involved.

Some of you complain that if the freeze clause isn't in, they could lose another Pokemon. Well, if it IS in, you could lose an entire TEAM!

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Alright guys...instead of wasting tourney time Debating and arguing(as much fun as that is...it gets boring over a period of time)

We will ALL simply VOTE for the rules..

We have just settled Mewtwo,onto MEW.

He learns every TM,people using him will have the actual max stats(403/298/298/298/298)

And..umm..EVERY MOVE

He is 3/4ths cheap.

AZURIAN REPS(this means,AZURIAN REPS)

Vote:

Yes for mew

OR

No for mew

I will be making the same post on Gamefaqs,and UPN+RPGamer should follow aswell..

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YES.

He's a lot easier to kill than Mewtwo, after all no Amnesia. That makes him like a regular Pokemon, almost. Hes got the same total stats as Dragonite, anyway.

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No amnesia?

Swords dance

Swords dance
Quake
Double Edge/Hyperbeam/Swift
Softboiled

And the T-wave variations are much cheaper....

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I've just posted a similar poll at Pokemon crater - so far there have only been 5 votes though so far its 4-1 to the Mewtwo supporters...

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NO for Mew <--- (meant to be growling)

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Yeah, Argo, but Swords Dance doesn't increase Defense, like Amnesia does. (with Special)

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Big deal Teejay...

Gamefaqs votes:
8=ANTI-mew
0=PRO-mew

^_^;;

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Now we're voting anti-MEW?! I say just let him be. Jynx can waste him in three Blizzards, and her special attack is far from the best. Since there's no potential 999 special, he's not nearly the whole team destroyer Mewtwo can be.

... But we should make a limit. Only use Official Mew stats. Seeing as allowing maxed Mews is just like allowing Game Shark, it's really the logical thing to do.

But of course, if we allow Game Shark, I'll be happy to rep for the Tourney with my Spore, Amnesia, Horn Drill, Fissure Electrode.

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quote:
Originally posted by Argo:
people using him will have the actual max stats(403/298/298/298/298

That's cheating, plain and simple.

Come on, it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE what the official Mew's stats look like. It shouldn't be too hard to spot a cheat.

Though I'm not a part of the forum tournament (and exceptionally pissed that AGNP wasn't invited, but hey, we'd win so who cares?), I'd like to oppose the banning on Mew. Without his "real" stats, he's still a force to be reckoned with but hardly invincible.

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Erm, could you please post what these "real" stats are, approximately? I've never really seen any...

(yeah I know this is a kinda dumb post, sorry)

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Star Caliber..

8 votes on GameFAQS say NO mew.

7 Votes on UPN say NO mew

1 Vote on Azure says No mew..

Thats half of the members...just ONE more vote.

*hint hint* *nudge nudge*

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Oh, crap. I'm not sure what to do about Mew. I don't feel that he is nearly as cheater as Mewtwo...

Lemme think about it Argo...

*would let his opinion on this matter be swayed by some constructive debate*

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Do we know for sure that all official Mews have the same stats? It seems quite likely that they vary just as much as wild-caught ones. At the very least, the different ones as indicated by their OTs (LUIGIE, LUIGIW, LUIGIC, etc.) should all be different.
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I think the thing is that, given only one chance to get a Pokemon with good stats, it's probably not going to be very good.

I've caught about 50 Koffings now, and I've yet to find a good one.

Maybe the Nintendo ones are all identical, tho. I dunno.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fanha:
There are NO such things as "official Mew stats".

There are official Nintendo Mews, and they do have stats.

I think that's all anyone was talking about.

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Oh..and if we set specific stats for mew..they will still cheat bye half to max stat mews...

If you say you can only have 278 in each stat..they will put 290 or something...and i am NOT going to go out and see the damage of different mews at what specific stats.

It's too much to deal with,and they are the best swift dancers out there.

Learns every damn move,and can annhilate whatever tank you send out...one swords dance,and explosion.

GONE.

Not to mention it's psychic..and has excellent HP...

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Well, I really felt that Mewtwo banning was necessary for the fun of the game. But Mew...banning him seems a little desperate. Sorry to let you down Argo, but I'm going to have to vote YES on Mew. NOT MEWTWO, it is pure evil. But Mew's OK. (Not that it will matter, 1 more NO vote on Mew seals the deal).

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Thats right star caliber..so what was the point in voting Yes?

Here's a little chat with me and Shiro,a guy on the RPGamer rep team:

Argothian Wurm: You are on The Rep team,am i right?
Limp987Bizkit: Righto.
Argothian Wurm: Do you vote Yes or No for mew use in the tourney?
Limp987Bizkit: No.
Argothian Wurm: Great..that settles it...17 No mew votes
Argothian Wurm: Thanks
Limp987Bizkit: Yay!

7 NO mew votes on UPN

8 NO mew votes on Gamefaqs

1 NO mew vote on Azure

1 NO mew vote on RPGamer

That settles it,NO Mew in this tourney..

Now...we have TWO more very important rules to vote on...PP ups(I have NO idea how to present this...i am still thinking) And Freeze clause(How can you put a clause on a uncontrolled effect)

Go ahead and vote.

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No pp ups, no freeze clause. PBS matches are long enough without max pp, and freezes are determined by luck.

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I agree with AgentM2 on that.

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What the!?!? Definitely YES on Freeze clause. Sleep clause I could care less about, so do whatever you want. If I need to vote on Sleep Clause, my vote is YES.

PP UPs, I say allow 'em. You're gonna have a tough time detecting PP UP use, and it doesn't make a lot of difference. Besides, i think my whole team only has like 6-8 PPUPs used on it.

But seriously, thinking about no freeze clause? What happens when 1 pokemon freezes whole teams solid? How fair is that? TeeJay lost a battle at a Stadium Tour by freezing 2 of Apophis's Pokemon solid. Not Apophis's fault, but TeeJay was very angry. I don't see how it's fair that people think they should be allowed to just eliminate 2/3 (3on3 play) or 1/3 (6on6 play) of their opponents Pokemon cuz they like Ice Beam. Geez, use some other move.

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Ok....i consulted some people from Gamefaqs,and UPN...


I did some bargaining..and:

This is the PP up rules we agreed on:

PP ups ONLY on moves that have 15 base pp or less...so you guys dont get any rediculous 48 pp moves...and the moves that actually require pp ups get them.

Does everyone agree?

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Sounds good to me, Argo. And I just can't see WHY you would want the freeze clause. If you don't have it, you risk losing a Pokemon due to luck. If you DO have it, you risk losing the entire MATCH due to luck!

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Exactly...and i have NEVER seen,in my time of training,more then 2 pokemon frozen.

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Come on, doesn't anyone here have a 100% Legit Mew from Nintendo?

Like I mentioned in a different post, the official stats go like this:

HP/A/D/SD/SL
383/288/270/292/278

Every single other person with a legit Mew I've talked with (on agnp) had the above stats... (at L100 with maxed stat exp)

Seeyas!

(PS If you want my opinion, Mew is fine with me. The swords dance ones take time to power up like TobyBro and the explosion ones usually means an unfair trade if Mewtwo is banned anyhows. But I do kinda object to max stats Mews as they are impossible to aquire legitmately, but I can see how if you allow it, it's not really worth enforcing it)

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I can't believe you guys are taking so long to even get the game started!

Oh well, at least you're making progress...

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That's fine with me, I just wanna get the matchups started!

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Actually Argo, I got DQ'ed due to the freeze clause in the 99 Tour. Guess who I was fighting? APOPHIS! He probably doesn't remember, though. Both of my Ice Beams froze. :-P

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Can we pair yet? How shall we go about pairing the matches? In gameFAQs tournaments (if you care) argo and 1 other person rolled a 32 sided die for matches, before hand everyone would pick a number 1-32.

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Two votes for no freeze clause and the 15 base pp or less PP ups rule on Azure.

Eight on gamefaqs

And four on UPN

C'mon guys..i think we all agreed on everything,all the rules are settled,LETS BEGIN PAIRINGS...i already know how to make the pairings,and i will be making a New topic soon.

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