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Slade_64
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posted 07-08-2016 11:09 PM
Would love to play it if it wasn't for login server issues.
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Mr. K
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posted 07-09-2016 11:41 AM
Yeah, I just found out about thing. I'm pleased to see it didn't come out a year and half ago and I just missed it.
The ad is awesome.
I want to go to the park and see if I can find a Caterpie. Maybe there are Magikarp in the lake.
But motherfuck the fucking server.
Maybe it will better in the middle of the night when all the (American, anyway) spuds are sleeping?
This is a great idea, I hope the implementation doesn't suck anus.
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posted 07-09-2016 01:32 PM
This app crashes so often. I almost had an Omanyte last night.
I saw a Snorlax guard a gym last night too.
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posted 07-09-2016 02:47 PM
I finally got in.
I saw a Caterpie in my neighborhood, but I guess I spooked him and he ran away. It is roughly eleventy billion degrees outside (the news says just to stay indoors) and apparently Caterpies do not like the shade, so I've given up for the day.
I can see there's a Magikarp at a nearby lake, so that will be my first stop tonight.
Also this thing slurps battery like a robot whore.
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posted 07-11-2016 01:02 PM
I fucked up on my character config and now they make it hard to recreate a new one
have a couple of pokes best is an eevee
I am really excited to build my dream team of cool old-school pokes:
Flareon
Muk
Snorlax
Magcargo
Raticate
Girafarig
Persian
Dewgong
Electrode
Dugtrio
hopefully they make it so more pokemon are worthwhile instead of the DS games where about 40% seem to be...
are we able to trade with eachother?
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Mr. K
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posted 07-12-2016 10:15 AM
I don't think trading works yet.
I'll be real happy when the crashing issue is dealt with, but it says something about the game that I keep playing even with the continued annoyance.
Someone dropped a lure on a Pokestop I passed today and I got a number of new guys, including a Vaporeon. Found an Arbok at a nearby park.
I've seen a Snorlax, a few Pikachu, a Dratini, and a Jigglypuff in my neighborhood, but only on the long range radar.
Near work I've seen Pinsir and Scyther, but not close.
Currently, it's crashing every time I try to get into a gym, but so far I've seen gyms conquered by Lapras, Chansey, Gloom, Snorlax, and various boring brown birds.
I got into a gym yesterday, but it was a rival color, and my team was decimated before I could even figure out the battle interface. I hope they have some system to keep things interesting for the people who haven't made this a full time job, because I've already put an unreasonable amount of time into this thing and I'm seriously outclassed at the gyms.
Found a friendly gym today, which I guess is where you're supposed to train your Pokemon (it's fair that my team of newbies was trashed with no training), but I can't get in without crashing.
I'm most impressed with the level of detail of the Pokestops. Sure, fountains and statues are all over universities, but they found a tiny statue inside a diner and a little plaque at what is (I just learned) technically a park, but really just a glorified traffic circle.
I guess the Ingress nerds must of have been working on this for years, but I am truly stunned by the Pokestop infrastructure.
Also fuck Zapdos.
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posted 07-12-2016 11:03 AM
Cool concept and I like the UI, though the crashing and server lockups made it less fun. It's awesome people are going out and getting some exercise.
Tried it out on an Android Marshmallow smartphone. Working fine for the most part. It crashed once. Some of my co-workers say the app crashes on their iPhones a lot.
I'd second that it sucks battery like crazy. Apparently you can't run the app in the background to have it register your steps for stuff like hatching eggs. I wish there was an in-app powersave mode or idle function. Otherwise, you can get the wristband and not worry about draining your phone.
Interestingly, people are already hacking the game to not have to burn calories, which is lame.
People hacking the data mining part is a bit scarier though. People suck.
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posted 07-12-2016 11:55 AM
There is the normal stuff to try to conserve battery life such as dim the screen brightness, turn off sounds, etc.
But extra stuff like turning off the augmented reality mode when capturing helps; doesn't turn on your camera.
And then there's the Battery Saver mode in the settings. When initiated, the game will automatically black out the display when you have your smartphone upside-down, but it won't stop tracking your steps and it will still notify you of nearby Pokemon. You just need to adjust your Sleep when Idle setting on your phone so it doesn't put the app to sleep.
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posted 07-12-2016 05:34 PM
This'll be the thing that finally gets me to update my phone.
I'm amazed so many people are Team Mystic. Everyone knows Zapdos is the only legendary bird who wasn't a total punk bitch.
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posted 07-13-2016 05:36 AM
Holy cow, Hollywood Blvd was crazy. Pokestops everrywhere. There's a gym at Kermit the Frog's Walk of Fame star and was constantly changing colors for the two hours I was there.
On the way home, I saw a triple stop at a church and a bunch of teenagers on the lawn.
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posted 07-13-2016 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Slade_64:
There is the normal stuff to try to conserve battery life such as dim the screen brightness, turn off sounds, etc.
But extra stuff like turning off the augmented reality mode when capturing helps; doesn't turn on your camera.
And then there's the Battery Saver mode in the settings. When initiated, the game will automatically black out the display when you have your smartphone upside-down, but it won't stop tracking your steps and it will still notify you of nearby Pokemon. You just need to adjust your Sleep when Idle setting on your phone so it doesn't put the app to sleep.
Thanks for the tips. Somehow I missed that. I'll try the app again later with a dedicated Trainer account (server overload hasn't allowed people to sign up). Niantic fixed the privacy mess with the most recent update.
It's amusing listening to people who have never heard of Pokemon try the app out. Yesterday's staff meeting consisted of people trying to explain what Pokemon is, and what it does based on the app, and how to deal with students looking for Pokemon in the building. It was a bit surreal, as nobody played the console games before.
Crashing gets worse in congested areas...so folks have said.
I work at a university campus that has programs for high school students too, so wondering how it will go with the Pokemon Go groups here. There are already several stops and a gym nearby.
I'll just grab my cap, skateboard, t-shirt and...
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posted 07-13-2016 12:41 PM
I am officially addicted.
I took 15,000 steps yesterday - all because of this game.
My team still blows... and it seems the best strategy to progress is to catch as many pokemon as possible. Training at gyms is fun but doesn't give you much XP (not as much as just catching pokes - even crappy ones you have a million of) since that is how you get stardust and how you make them better.
also I don't understand hot to scale your pokes as you level - just ditch them for more powerful ones you catch? or spend tons of stardust trying to progress them?
I am mad at myself for the second time in my life missing buying stock in Nintendo/ForKids! prior to explosion. I would have made lots of money in a couple of days following the release - had I only known before! ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
My team:
GOlbat
Pigeotto (soon to be a Pidgeot later today)
Golbat
Golbat
Raticate
Scyther
I agree with Mentar - I am team Zapdos - way better than the fire chicken or that obama-voting freezer fag.
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Slade_64
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posted 07-13-2016 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax:
also I don't understand hot to scale your pokes as you level - just ditch them for more powerful ones you catch? or spend tons of stardust trying to progress them?
I'm still trying to figure that out myself. It seems that randomly catching more powerful ones and upgrading those pokemon is the way to go at the moment. Pokemon from eggs too can be very powerful alternative sources of powerful pokemon.
I just can't find/hatch any powerful enough to take on any gyms in my local area. There's 1 gym within walking distance from home and I'm too busy during or after work to go hunt at the workplace... It feels like I'll forever have a million ~200 CP pokemans.
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posted 07-13-2016 09:21 PM
I get that power levels are based on your level as a trainer, which is silly, but I haven't paid close enough attention to figure out if the ones you caught when you were Level 1 can be brought up to speed or whether they are simply hopeless biomass to be thrown into the blender and turned into candy.
On the other hand, I kinda don't care much at this point. This is only just barely a Pokemon game, and I'm OK with that.
I like exploring my neighborhood and I like getting out of the house (25km of walking and counting), so if all this turns out to be a trick to get some exercise and see the sights, that's cool. Also there's collecting.
I mostly play GTA games to explore maps and find the hidden objects, so this is plenty entertaining for me...for now.
If they decide to actually implement a real game behind all this, that would be awesome. Although I might need to upgrade my phone, and that's pretty weak, given that what passes for the actual game portion of the proceedings could have been written in BASIC on an old Atari.
But just walking around and meeting others doing the same crazy bullshit you're up to is super fun.
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posted 07-14-2016 04:47 AM
man, i'm just shocked to learn that Mr. K has a privacy-ravaging smartphone
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posted 07-14-2016 07:58 PM
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Its appearance is indeed offensive to the millions of Holocaust victims who were killed by poisonous gas.
Yeah, that was me, sorry.
Also Google Maps is too magical and useful to not have access to. Also I use it to read the paper, and you know I'm old because I call it "the paper".
I've never used significant 4G data before, so I don't even know what this month is going to cost me, but it seems to be light on data, if not CPU.
I use it for weather and podcasts and...maybe that's it? Machete still don't text.
Oh, right, and I've Ubered to see how that works.
And, y'know, it's a phone. And I guess a watch. Oh, and a camera, of course, but I strip metadata before I post and annoy my friends who want to know where the things I saw on vacation were. They just have to believe me.
Anyway, I sure as fuck didn't use a Google sign-on with this thing, which turned out to be a pretty good choice. Also my face will not be going in the book.
Also I won't give Siri access to location services, which means she never ever knows wtf I'm talking about, unless I'm setting an alarm. The stream of profanities I've shouted at her is most irrational, but it's not my fault they made her such a snotty passive aggressive asshole.
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posted 07-15-2016 11:01 AM
Maxing out your Lucky Egg:
Have 35-40 evolutions ready to go (Do your Pidgeys, Weedles, Rattatas and other excessive commons first)
Have a 10km egg ready to hatch
Be near three Pokestops.
Go between the hours of 11pm and 7am when servers are non-congested.
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posted 07-15-2016 07:31 PM
I don't understand your stuff mewtwosama
so what's the endgame for my pokemons? It seems like a revolving door of higher and higher CP -- then what?
For the gym battles you just spam tap the other guy until your power bar is maxed out and then you hold down on your guy until he ejaculates a special move, right? I've tried dodging but it seems random and not worthwhile.
I really want the ability to pimp out my favorite pokes but the game doesn't seem to want me to do that...
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posted 07-16-2016 12:43 AM
yeah, dumping a few hours in this is making me yearn for more meat.
you know, you can play all the DS games using an emulator with a fast-forward button now.
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posted 07-16-2016 02:47 AM
After level 9, you get a Lucky Egg (or you can buy them)
When you evolve your commons or walk enough to hatch an egg, you get exp.
Lucky Eggs double experience.
If you have friends, you can work together to take down a gym. If you hold a gym for 21 hours, you get 10 free coins per gym. Stronger Pokemon (1000 CP or higher) hold down gyms easier.
Once you have a gym, you can train there. The more victories you get, the more prestige a gym gets. I have a Golbat hanging out at a level 8 gym.
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posted 07-16-2016 02:49 AM
As far as end game? Uh, Catch Em All?
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posted 07-16-2016 04:58 AM
I think one of the problems with this game is that it's about your trainer character, not your Pokemon. It seems like it wants to you to just dispose of your bestest buddies as soon as you get the very next one of the same species.
That said, if my hypothesis regarding how all this works is accurate (note that I have done no testing whatsoever), you could theoretically stick with your pals...but there's no benefit to doing so.
It seems like all pokemon of a given species are basically the same when it comes to CP. Maybe their size has something to do with HP and maybe speed, and their movesets can be different, but that seems fairly trivial.
If I look at all Pokemon of the same species, regardless of when I caught them, their CP fits regularly into the semi-circular graph in the background. That is, no one's CP tank seems any larger than any other. I think their tanks get larger as you level, so you COULD level up the first guy you ever caught, but since all Pokemon are essentially identical, it's easiest just to take the next one that comes along.
I could be completely wrong. I haven't bothered to test anything, and since all the little bastards at the local gyms are already at least three times as strong as my best guy and I've only managed to get inside a gym once without it crashing, I haven't been particularly interested either.
Since I'm not fighting at gyms and don't have to fight wild Pokemon before catching them, I have no particular affinity for any of my team either. I have a sack full of rats and they all just wriggle around in there.
For the moment though, I kind of don't care that there is basically no game here.
I like collecting, and while I hopelessly chased a Jigglypuff around for an hour today, I bagged a Bulbasaur and a Dratini in the process, and that tickles my brain enough to make happy for the moment.
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posted 07-16-2016 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by starCaliber:
yeah, dumping a few hours in this is making me yearn for more meat.
you know, you can play all the DS games using an emulator with a fast-forward button now.
I would love to still be playing pokemon. But I would want to play a new game where you basically just pick and choose move sets and pokemon that you bio-engineer in a lab and then throw into an area against people from the internet (with configurable rulesets and level brackets etc). the RPG aspect or berry cultivation isn't appealing to me.
I think Pokemon Go! will definitely evolve based on the fact it is waaaaaaaaay out performing expectations. I think Nintendo will dump a lot of money into building pokemon mobile brands - only a great thing for all of us!
Has anyone theorized the use for stardusts? Is there an upper-limit for CP or level?
One thing I like about the design is you really have no need to pay money to be good at it. The best you can buy are eggs and incubators but you still have to play the game a lot in order to hatch them. I like that.
because otherwise I would have paid a couple G for a 10k cp snorlax to make kids cry
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posted 07-16-2016 07:45 PM
It looks like stardust is for raising CP, but it seems more efficient just to level up and get a better Pokemon. Maybe at higher levels that becomes too difficult.
Also right after I wrote that I can't get into gyms, I not only got into but conquered the closest gym to my place this morning.
I expected gym challenges to get progressively more difficult, but I suppose every now and then a gang will take down a particularly tough single Pokemon and then not have something of a super-high level to squat it.
There was only a Caterpie and tougher-but-not-way-tougher-than-my-guys Pidgeot I was able to wear down after multiple rounds (of getting in without app crashes).
People were pulling into the parking lot as I left and my guy was dethroned before I got home, but now I at least understand the gym thing.
I didn't even think to name the guy I left behind. I'll have to be prepared next time.
Also there is a Doduo outside right now that can go fuck itself. Maybe literally.
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posted 07-16-2016 08:55 PM
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Also right after I wrote that I can't get into gyms, I not only got into but conquered the closest gym to my place this morning.
I expected gym challenges to get progressively more difficult, but I suppose every now and then a gang will take down a particularly tough single Pokemon and then not have something of a super-high level to squat it.
There was only a Caterpie and tougher-but-not-way-tougher-than-my-guys Pidgeot I was able to wear down after multiple rounds (of getting in without app crashes).
People were pulling into the parking lot as I left and my guy was dethroned before I got home, but now I at least understand the gym thing.
So I wore down an enemy gym and conquered it, and then installed my own pokemon there. But then it gets sort of awkward in game design - you can train against your own pokemon - but the XP you get for both you and the gym is terrible. So in order to increase the gym level you just re-battle it about 20 times until it levels up, then you add another pokemon until a spot opens, repeat. I guess you are incentivized to do this because for every pokemon you have protecting a gym you get ten coins a day.
But I don't really think it's worth the time/effort for the meager xp (like 10-30 per battle for your character and 150ish for the gym). It certainly isn't very fun to me... 2 cents
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I think one of the problems with this game is that it's about your trainer character, not your Pokemon. It seems like it wants to you to just dispose of your bestest buddies as soon as you get the very next one of the same species.
very astute Mr. K - I think you are correct! Definitely a shift to orient gameplay around a person instead of Pokes. It's like if Ash Ketchum started hitting the gym, progressing in his career and gaining super powers instead of pikachu. Humans are not as fun as pokemans.
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posted 07-16-2016 10:07 PM
PRE-TEEN LITTLE SHIT used CROSSFIT!
It's not very effective . . .
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posted 07-17-2016 12:26 AM
I hatched a Snorlax from a 10k egg today.
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posted 07-17-2016 10:39 AM
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I hatched a Snorlax from a 10k egg today.
![[Cool]](cool.gif)
T-mobile throttles my data internationally - and today it won't let me do anything in the game. The GPS works but not data, so nothing is transmitted to the game server. I went for a run to hatch some eggs and got no credit!
My pokemon and I are stronger for it
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posted 07-18-2016 05:25 AM
I think if you really like a pokemon you get early, you can eventually (late 20s, early 30s) raise that to max.
At low level, your XP-to-level is very small. This means you don't spend much time accumulating dust: it is best off saved, because you will soon be catching much more powerful monsters. At level 5 you can encounter up to level 11 monsters, at level 10 you can encounter up to level 21 monsters- that difference is huge, and you can skip paying for the upgrade in dust by doing so.
Once you level more, you'll be collecting huge amounts of XP between levels, and therefore huge amounts of dust. This means you can meaningfully start maxxing monsters of your choice, because you won't just be meeting their double CP brother the very next day.
Once you hit 20, eggs stop getting better.
Once you hit 30, encounters stop getting better.
40 appears to be a hard max, but no one has hit it yet. Levels get really hard, and gain you less. It's sort of a soft cap.
The game part is about catching monsters and collecting them. The real deal is about going cool places and seeing stuff. The game is set up for this by making some monsters really common in certain parks (there's one with a lot of magnetites here, and one with a bunch of dratini- the dratini park stays full until the cops come by and kick out all the kids). They are set up for all kinds of events, etc. We'll see if it stays even half this popular for a few months- I think it has a real chance.
The "pvp" part is a total joke. It is fun, and I play it, but the best part is watching the internet flip their shit about how unbalanced it is. In order to generate the stats of the monsters (the stats are stamina, attack, and defense- CP I think is just decorative, hit points are real though), they used the base stats of the monsters pushed through a formula. That's fuckdiculous if you are trying for balance, which, of course, they are not. Further, some moves are totally way too good, and others are truly awful, so if you roll up the crappy move that particular monster is just poo in the pvp.
If you care about the pvp, name an Eevee "Rainer" and feed it twenty five eevee souls, and it will evolve into Vaporeon. Then just spend all your dust on that guy. The trick only works the first time per account (there's other names for the others), but it actually does work. Vaporeon has good stats (just like in the real games if you ignore speed!), and has "water gun", which for no reason I can discern attacks faster than the 5 power moves, but is a 10 power moves, and thus does over double damage.
Super effective is x1.25.
Not very effective is x0.8.
Same type bonus is x1.25, which kind of defeats the purpose of super effective.
Anyway, I think anyone caring about the pvp part a lot is missing the point. It's just incredible to see a whole park full of pokemon players at all hours of the day, it's totally absurd to see just everyone from kids to adults playing the game.
Today at the park, I heard some little kid mispronouncing the name of a pokemon and getting the type wrong (Tangela), and the dad gently corrected him on both. That really blew my mind.
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posted 07-18-2016 05:29 AM
> then you add another pokemon until a spot opens, repeat.
You can't. If you level the gym up, someone else needs to add a pokemon, you can only have one per gym. If you are there with team, you install however many will fit, and then you ALL train at it. If you walk up to a huge gym all by yourself it seems like it takes a really long time to train at it long enough for it to gain prestige, but if you were trying to make it with that many people actually there, it would be really fast.
Gyms last for as long as it takes to drive to the next gym. I suspect they will make them a little easier to defend or something.
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posted 07-18-2016 09:44 AM
Spotted groups of PoGo players in the park near home. Some kids on bikes stopped by to ask what pokemon were nearby. A guy even cranked down the window of his car and said "Gonna catch dat Pidgey?!" Saw some native pokes like raccoons and foxes trying to avoid groups of players walking in their direction.
Gyms lose prestige if you don't manage to defeat all the pokemon in it. A couple of Pidgeots went down and the prestige dropped at the local park gym.
If the game didn't stutter all the time, even the finger-mashing gym battles could be fun.
App continues to crash on Android (running it on a OnePlus 2 and tried it on a Moto Style X Pure - both pretty unstable). It sometimes freezes up doing basic things like catching pokemon (right when the pokeball stops glowing). There doesn't seem to be a repeatable cause to the crashes. I might try clearing the app cache and see if that helps, but the server overloads aren't helping. My character sometimes spazzes out on the world map, or slides around when I'm sitting down somewhere.
I kinda miss the clusterfuck of stats from the later console games though. I'm hoping, as other people said, this app starts a line of Pokemon games for mobile platforms. Until that happens, my mobile fix will be from GBC/GBA/DS emulators with Bluetooth wireless cable links.
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Wait what?
Can you link a tutorial for getting pokemans on my Androids please? (for a noob)
@NAM- awesome post - thanks that helps a lot. Your explanation of Dust being used later to grow a team you want sounds really logical. Looking forward to a bomb-ass Likitung!
As for simplification of stats - you can tell they wanted to make it approachable to noobs and not give off a nerd smell that would hinder widespread adoption. I can say the strategy worked! But perhaps there will need to be a new section on Azure Heights to facillitate min/max research for those so inclined to dig deeper.
One thing I noticed is my Scyther has absolutely beast offense at only 204 CP - I've put him in against pokes 3x his CP and he dies but has taken a vaporeon down to half health using steel wing (15 power)
can someone explain how to hunt particular pokemon? I've just been having random encounters but something with the pokemon map and the number of footprints and the grass rustling is supposed to mean something right? DO pokemon appear more often near pokestops? This one time a hitmonlee with zero footprints was rustling all around me - but he never popped up.
How is incense different from the modules you put on pokestops?
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my mobile fix will be from GBC/GBA/DS emulators with Bluetooth wireless cable links.
Wait what?
Can you link a tutorial for getting pokemans on my Androids please? (for a noob)
The Android My Boy! emulators support link emulation over Bluetooth or Wi-fi. Basically you can link local to your own phone (running two games in separate app instances at once) or you can connect to someone else running My Boy. Other GBA emulators have link support too. You need to have both devices running the same type of emulator since they may implement the cable emulation differently.
Best example of the cable link feature in action is this video in glorious shaky potato cam. Player one is the server device while player two is the client device.
A short summary of the steps are the following: quote:
Today im gonna teach you all on how to enable linking with Pokemon R, S, E, FR, LG players around the world using your android device (tablet or smartphone) and MyBoy Emulator.
Things you will need :
1. Pokemon Roms Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire Red, Leaf Green.
2. My Boy Gba Emulator version 1.5.0 for android (Google it Full Version or Purchase in Play Store)
3. Strong Wireless Connection (Wifi) or Bluetooth.
Steps :
1.Download the Rom and Install the Emulator My Boy Gba Emulator version 1.5.0 in your android device
2.After Downloading/Installing Open the Emulator
3. Browse for the Rom you downloaded
4. Play and learn playing it yourself
Linking (All players must do this):
Bluetooth: Only for people who is near to each other
Wi-Fi: For people far to each other
1.Open your Bluetooth or Wifi (must be connected to Wireles Connection)
2. Open your Emulator
3. Open your Rom
4. Go to any Pokemon Center
5.Go to second Floor and talk to the last receptionist who is in charge of Link Room
6. Choose what you want to do with your friend (Colosseum, Trade, Mix Record) both must choose same choice.
7. Click Option
8. Click Link Remote > Wifi/
Wifi Server : The one who will host the game and who will give the IP address and Port number to other players
Wifi Client : The participants of the game, you must know the IP address and Port number of the Server
Bluetooth/
Bluetooth Server: The host of the game
Bluetooth Client : The participants of the game, must connect with the Server's bluetooth.
9.After that, a message will show that you must wait for the other players. After that you can now battle, trade or mix record with the other players.
There are free versions (which allow linking up). I don't know what's the main differences are since I'm using the paid versions of My Boy!/My Oldboy!. Here are the Google Play store links:
GBA Free | GBA Paid | GB/GBC Free | GB/GBC Paid
(I'm sure you can scrounge an APK somewhere on teh lazy webs if you're feeling cheap.)
There's also John GBA and a How To here. I haven't used it, so I can't vouch for it.
The My Boy! and My OldBoy! emulators are really well-featured with save states and other goodies. They have support for different versions of cheat devices as well. I'm not sure if there are good DS emulators for Android yet (that have wide support and features), but the GBA and GBC generations are stable and compatible with every possible game. I think I'll wait a bit longer until DS emulators become more polished.
Afaik, Android is the only platform with wide link emulation support on mobile. I've seen some PC emulators have link emulation, like no$gba. GBA4iOS 2.x is the only iOS emulator I've seen with multiplayer. Never used it though, and no idea if it can operate with Android emulators.
Nothing is more convenient than having your GBA/GBC library in your pocket, especially when travelling light. Battery life is pretty good too--nowhere near as bad as PoGo on battery save mode.
Send me a PM if you have more questions.
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"As for simplification of stats - you can tell they wanted to make it approachable to noobs and not give off a nerd smell that would hinder widespread adoption."
I think it is much nerdier to have an obscure arc with no annotation than to say "level 21 monster". Non-nerds have been dealing with that level of horseshit since the nineties, and certainly the aughties. The pokemon stat screen could have attack and defense without offending anyone.
What the game couldn't have, is even a small amount of the complexity of mainline pokemon. The gym interface is simple: your four options are "switch" (takes real time, a couple seconds, allowing the enemy to continue to attack), "punch" (tap faster to attack faster, up to a maximum rate determined solely by the move), "special" (once you built a glowing bar, long press to make the move happen), and "dodge" (swipe left or right when the screen flashes yellow to partially dodge the next attack).
Faster pokemon don't dodge better, or mitigate varying amounts. The core reason mainline pokemon even has anything besides hit points as a defensive stat is that physical and magical attacks are defended against differently, and this game totally lacks that. "Super effective" needs to be the small value that it is because if your boy only has one punch to swing.
They could (and probably will) add a bit of depth with some extra hidden complexity (they could change the multipliers for the special move, while leaving the builder move with lesser multipliers). But I doubt they are in any race for this. I'm sure that the number of people who are playing the game specifically to fight in gyms is really goddamned small. The game isn't made for that kind of gameplay.
Mainline pokemon has never succeeded at having a great deal of balance- even most of us here were only ever really offended at how the game seemed to go out of its way to make sure that Mewtwo had no counter in the game. That got fixed in the later games- at the very least, when the metallics launched it was clear that they were no longer trying to make a onemon game.
"But perhaps there will need to be a new section on Azure Heights to facillitate min/max research for those so inclined to dig deeper."
The game is simple enough, and the client APK readable enough, that a lot of the work has already been done in days. The Silph Road subreddit has a lot of the data, but like everything on reddit, you just have to browse through a mile of bullshit to find stuff. Eventually someone will create a good pokedex- probably its a matter of days or weeks.
In the mean time, here's a chart showing which pokemon can get which moves:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gAZUFAQQobIs I2wvVzkU_r7XrVwbaQv6cktaWnYzR4Q/htmlview?sle=true#
And here's a chart of max dps that seems to take the pokemon's attack value and the available moves into account:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets /d/18ZqGw9lIFD74exLAlfQC0I_NZf_7zqUKjkniigfcZmg/pubhtml?gid=2037705053&single=true
And you can find the base values here:
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/077d6dea82d58b8febde54ae9729b1bf
But honestly, a lot of this is going to be combined into a webapp immediately, and the other big deal is that, unlike researching something for the chromatics that remains true FOREVER, this game can change everything overnight. I don't think anyone will need to be testing Toxic all night long this time around ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
"One thing I noticed is my Scyther has absolutely beast offense at only 204 CP - I've put him in against pokes 3x his CP and he dies but has taken a vaporeon down to half health using steel wing (15 power)"
Remember that the gym AI attacks at some fixed rate, which may or may not be a bug, and that the gym AI never dodges. So this means that you'll do better on offense than defense. Scyther seems to have decent stats, and Steel Wing seems better than Fury Cutter for him (mostly because Fury Cutter is pretty bad). Not well understood is how fast the special bar fills and how important that is- it doesn't seem to make a huge difference though (specials matter, but you probably wouldn't want a weaker builder just because it makes your specials happen faster). I haven't found anyone modelling that yet, but I'm sure it will happen.
"can someone explain how to hunt particular pokemon?"
If you mean, where are the cool monsters:
Go to a big park, and ask the other pokemon players where the good monsters live at. If you see scraggly people squatting under a gym, they'll be really happy to help.
If you mean, where the fuck is the Venusaur on the map:
A monster at 3 steps will hopefully share your display with 8 other monsters, many or all at 3 steps. Walk in a direction until the monster gets placed higher on the list. In the beta, these values were actual distance numbers, and they still are underneath, and are sorted as such. If your guy looks like he is getting relatively closer, keep going until something he does not. Then pick a different direction. This method isn't great, and a current bug prevents most players from seeing a monster going to two steps, but that bug happened like on Friday and will probably get fixed soon.
"number of footprints and the grass rustling is supposed to mean something right?"
0 footprints- hold still, monster will spawn on map.
1 footprint- you are about twenty walking seconds from the monster at most.
2 footprints- the monster is pretty fucking close, walk and see if it becomes three, if so, backtrack and try again.
3 footprints- the monster exists in a relatively large area around you, use its relative position with other 3 footprint monsters to hopefully get close before it despawns.
"DO pokemon appear more often near pokestops?"
In general yes, but this seems to be because the monsters are placed near where "XM" is in Ingress, and pokestops are often in places with a lot of "XM", which is somewhat related to cell phone activity. Monsters seem to spawn in similar locations often, but that's certainly no guarantee. The rustling grass seems to be related to this, but no one is really sure.
"This one time a hitmonlee with zero footprints was rustling all around me - but he never popped up."
That's a damned shame and probably a bug. At zero footprints, he should pop.
"How is incense different from the modules you put on pokestops?"
Incense draws pokemon just to you. Only you can see them and capture them. The incense works better if you are walking or biking, but you will encounter a few just sitting on your ass.
Lure modules attract pokemon that everyone can catch.
Neither of these draws pokemons from the surrounding environs, which will continue their normal whatevers- effectively, these items create new pokemon.
There's some evidence that incensed and lured pokemon may have, on average, better genes than fully wild ones. Hatched pokemon definitely do, though any monster can have any genes.
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woooah great info thank you
Backup a bit...
What is the meaning of the different special moves blue bars? It can vary? The more bars or the fewer the better?
Pokemon in Pokemon Go! Have genes as well? For attack, defense, hps, CP? Or is it just for movesets? Is there a way to determine which genes your pokiemans have?
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I'm gonna drive about an hour away to a place that spawns Dratini.
There's also a place I can bus to where Charmanders spawn.
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IMO the jury is out on the value of the different special moves. Right now, I prefer the ones that are one long bar. These hit a bit harder than the ones with many little bars, but the big reason is that the cast time is way inflated over what I think it should be. I will often take several long presses to get the special move to fire, and I'd prefer to not be swinging and wiffing on activating due to shit servers. Basically, if activating a 50 power move takes as long as activating a 60 power move, I'd prefer to activate one 60 power move half as often, because the game fights you so hard on it.
Anyway, I don't trust the math on those yet, but, in theory, you would like the ones that both match your type, and have the most total power available per bar, which is usually the ones with the most "combo points". I just don't think that matters much yet, but I do think people will have real math on them before long. People are finally figuring out that they need to video tape stuff and then analyze that, etc. I'd give it a week and someone should have made a compelling case, assuming the devs don't change everything with some new fangled patch.
Why back in my day...
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"Pokemon in Pokemon Go! Have genes as well?"
Yes. The attack, defense, and stamina base stats are all modified by genes that go from 0 to 15. It is possible to reverse engineer them to an extent, and it looks like it will be completely possible soon. The problem is you need to know the level of the pokemon, which currently seems to involve either sniffing packets or guessing the level from the arc, like with a protractor. Then you can figure out the stamina gene exactly, and the attack and defense are trial and error until you get a combination that yields the CP you actually have.
If you're wondering if there is a fast and useful way to figure out which pidgey was chosen by the gods, I just don't think so. But I think it is coming.
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Today at the park, I heard some little kid mispronouncing the name of a pokemon and getting the type wrong (Tangela), and the dad gently corrected him on both. That really blew my mind.
Welcome to the magical world of Being Old, folks! It won't be long before kids have never heard of your favorite band and think of your favorite movie as that old time classic with the guy who plays Grandpa on a show you've never heard of.
Also despite creating a web site for the purpose of discovering all the mysteries of Pokemon, I'm a little sad to learn the details of this game so soon. I kind of like not knowing exactly how everything works, and it seems that precise knowledge of the game guts really has no significant value until you're of high enough level that you've become somewhat jaded and bored with the idea of XP anyway.
Only the broad strokes matter at lower levels and even if you know all the details, it doesn't really make you a better player.
It looks like everything changes as you approach the endgame, but if I can take over gyms now with a squad of misfits and losers, I think I know alls I need to know and I'm happy with that.
One weird side effect of having clean server time only in the middle of the night and gym attacks being most effective when no one is defending, is that, all night long, weirdos in cars are staring at their phones in the parking lot of every church, market, and park in town. I drove slowly past some lots at around 4am and they all had at least one nerd stationed there.
I mean, sure, I was one of those nerds, but it's still creepy, right?
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posted 07-20-2016 12:11 AM
"I'm a little sad to learn the details of this game so soon."
I think there's tons we don't know yet, and I also think this game is super shallow in the pee vee pee, and I also think there's super DUPER tons we don't know about how the pokemon spawn in the world. Given that the game is a treasure hunt first, I feel there's tons more exploring to do and stuff.
And of course, if this was all the game that ever would be, I'd still probably agree with you. But we know that they'll probably do balance and content patches, so I don't think knowing everything is as big a deal as it would for a game that ships as a ROM.
"Only the broad strokes matter at lower levels and even if you know all the details, it doesn't really make you a better player."
Are you talking about the gym thing? Because I agree with that. But I found a special spawn point that has a pretty rare pokemon every time, and I've told no one about it. That's pretty cool, and I bet the game is filled with that sort of thing. But I tell everyone about the park with dratini that I spend all my damned time at. The treasure hunt part of this game is super fun, and they can keep it fun for a very long time pretty damned easily.
But the pvp system is totally stupid. Unlike the link battles on the carts, which offered infinite depth but mostly delivered a Mewtwo meta (which was still deep and fun, just a shadow of what the game could have been), I feel I beat it immediately, and it is all about time. They already made some changes (first gyms could be beaten with the banishment of the 1hp bug, then they patched the gym defenders to not be fully dodgeable), so probably they will keep making changes. The pvp balance seems absolutely unfinished, and I'm not sure what they are going for with the gyms at all anyway.
But there's a horse ranch near my work, and the neighborhood around it is filled with Ponyta and I don't think that's an accident and that's just so grand man it really is.
Also Rapidash gets like one shot by everything.
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posted 07-20-2016 04:34 AM
When 32 dratini love each other very much...
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I caught a Dragonite with 46 cp - that has to be some sort of a record for suck
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posted 07-21-2016 05:49 AM
so it's not news to this crowd, but playing in a city is basically cheating:
we saw literal thousands of people out at the waterfront tonight. somehow, i still don't have my gyarados, but god damn if that wasn't an efficient few hours.
i still wish the grind's focus was on training your monsters rather than on endlessly farming meat for Willow's obvious ground pidgeyburger and karp sushi operations, but this is turning out to be a pretty special experience all the same.
how's the lure volume in NAMBLANIA?
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so it's not news to this crowd, but playing in a city is basically cheating:
we saw literal thousands of people out at the waterfront tonight. somehow, i still don't have my gyarados, but god damn if that wasn't an efficient few hours.
i still wish the grind's focus was on training your monsters rather than on endlessly farming meat for Willow's obvious ground pidgeyburger and karp sushi operations, but this is turning out to be a pretty special experience all the same.
how's the lure volume in NAMBLANIA?
SC is hooked
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posted 07-21-2016 12:43 PM
Depends where you go. The dratini park usually has at least one and sometimes four, north a bit the uni usually has the three intersecting stops lured. But it's not like the city proper, that is of course absurd.
Also that is not cheating, this is cheating:
https://pokevision.com
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posted 07-21-2016 08:29 PM
Have you guys noticed that every once in a while your pokeballs will be sparkly and then curve away from the pokemon when you toss it? It's different from when you just toss and it hooks, it's like the game is actively forcing you to miss.
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posted 07-22-2016 01:17 AM
it's the curveball mechanic glitching out. if you draw circles with your finger before throwng the ball it'll do a curveball toss worth +10xp if you land the catch.
but like many features of the game currently, it sometimes fucks up and just happens i guess
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posted 07-22-2016 02:24 AM
I can see like 4 Pokestops now with my very own eyeballs and the goddam mutherhumpin sunuvabeeskeet servers won't let me in.
I bet they're fucking racists.
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