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Mr. K
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OK, so I have a biological need for this Guitar Hero game and I also need a new DVD player. So I'm thinkin' I'm going to buy me a PS2. (Us old people often have to roll our own Xmases.)

I need nerd data.

Apparently the new slim case is better in general, except that it's harder to hack and doesn't allow you connect a hard drive which would allow me to play super gay games I don't want to play.

Is it better to get the old fat version or is the hacking so annoying that I wouldn't bother with it anyway? Keeping in mind that I have no young Asian friends, and therefore have no easy access to gigabytes of illegal game data (although I have no objection to using such data, if there's some easy non-Asian way to get it).

Also which and how many memory cards do I need, if I only expect to rock hardcore and maybe play some weird and colorful games developed by insane Japanese people? I know there were some issues with third party GameCube memory cards, but all I've seen online are 8M Sony cards, so maybe this isn't an issue.

Also also what do I need to know about playing online? Is it worth it or all the games dominated by nerds who have made a career out of pwning n00bs?

Also also also my DVD player does not play burned DVDs because it is old and shitty. Will both the slim and fat PS2s play these? I've had a copy of Run Lola Run sitting in my teevee thing for years and I'd like to check it out.

Note that any game titles with the words "final" and "fantasy" in them will have no bearing on any of my decisions.

[ 12-30-2006, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: Mr. K ]

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NOTE: my post only answers 1 question

I've done fine with just one memory card, but I have only played around 10 PS2 games in total, so the card is not exactly crammed full with save files. Unless Guitar Hero is super-memory-needy (which I know nothing about), one card should be fine.

As for the other questions, I have *no idea*.

By the way, aren't you a Transformers fan? There's a Transformers (based on Armada) game for the PS2 which has gotten good reviews.

Personally, I found it too action- and twitch-based, with the gameplay resembling an FPS much more than I liked (I suck at aiming).

You can transform at will, though, which is really cool - drive off a ledge, transform in mid-air, blast some enemies, drive away.

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If you get a fat one and a hard drive, you can mod it to play games off the hard drive.

That will reduce those horrid load times.

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i hastily bought a slim one at a great price (used) because I hadn't bothered looking into piracy and wanted to play Guitar Hero real bad. picked up a Sony brand 8MB memory card off of SA-Mart (e.g. "who wants to sell me a cheap PS2 memory card") for ~$10.

i now have a slim PS2, memory card, Guitar Hero, and two guitar controllers -- none of which have been used in four months. kind of disappointing.

EDIT: i don't really know where to look for PS2 piracy info. you might check out maxconsole as a good starting point.

[ 12-31-2006, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: starCaliber ]

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quote:
Originally posted by starCaliber:
i now have a slim PS2, memory card, Guitar Hero, and two guitar controllers -- none of which have been used in four months. kind of disappointing.

Since you aren't using them anymore, you wouldn't be interested in selling them, would you?

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not here, if that's what you're asking.
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I think I've lost interest in hacking. Every hacking explanation is just some FAQ thread on a forum where someone gives dodgy instructions full of acronyms that have no meaning to me, a couple dozen subhuman illiterate dipshits ask stupid fucking questions and get answers that are out of their league, followed by a few mammals of simian intelligence who explain why nothing in FAQ actually works without doing something else, which generates more dispute.

I don't care that much, especially when games are 10 bucks each.

If I can get it to work by sticking something into the USB port, fine. If not, I just don't care that much about jamming bits of plastic here or there or soldering anything anywhere on the advice of someone who can't spell the word.

Thanks for the data card info, though, that's useful.

The plan is to get the game and then buy another controller for my friend who can play off his laptop, after I download all the real songs for him. I've tested Frets on Fire and it works nicely. I even kinda like one of the demo songs.

As for the Transformers game, I'm not really interested in it, since Armada sucked. Probably not as bad as the Michael Bay movie, though. That thing looks like a giant steaming turd crapped out of Spielberg's increasingly irrelevant anus on to the chest of a Hollywood cocktail waitress.

also happy new year

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quote:
Also also what do I need to know about playing online? Is it worth it or all the games dominated by nerds who have made a career out of pwning n00bs?
I don't know but if you get a fat one and it didn't come with a broadband adapter I can hook you up. I sold my PS2 to someone on a tight budget and they didn't want it. (I'm assuming that the fatso BBA doesn't fit on the skinny unit. I dunno, maybe it does.)

quote:
Note that any game titles with the words "final" and "fantasy" in them will have no bearing on any of my decisions.
On that note, and not caring sufficiently to seek a better context, I'm playing the FF III remake on DS Lite. This is a very nice looking game and the 15-year old game play is exactly what I felt like, so that's no problem.

The problem is the writing. I wish I could criticize the story, but having progressed mid-way through the second chapter, I'm still unable to DETECT one. I can see why the short bus crew spooged over FF VII, because it featured expensive cutting-edge innovations like a villian and a backstory. Stupid fucking elfhumpers.

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listen man, bitching about Final Fantasy after you've already agreed to play it in the first place is just in poor taste.

on that note why didn't you tell me you have a DS Lite please relinquish your Tetris DS and Clubhouse Games friend codes and let's throw down motherfucker.

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Tetri-wha? I want to throw down but I'm not very clueful about these things. Here's the games I have:

AC:WW
New Super Mario Land

Here's the games I've tried:
Elite Beat Agents: This is very fine but it's amazing how the bad songs took the life out of me. I wouldn't mind trying the J-Pop version.
Paper Mario Descendant: Seemed reasonable but I didn't look too closely.
Random Battle Fantasy: Discussed previously.

I will look into your falling blocks game and that other one though. 99.9% of my DS time has been with AC, because it has that "can't stand to play it for more than 15 minutes, but want to do so every day" quality. I've made a nice graph of probability distributions for the turnip market, if anyone wants one.

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mute: I'm assuming that the fatso BBA doesn't fit on the skinny unit. I dunno, maybe it does.

It looks like the skinny one comes with a network port in it already, but I haven't noticed any compelling reason to use the network at all, so that hasn't really been a factor.

Also the fact that Guitar Hero II is sold out everywhere that's convenient has prevented me from doing any more serious research.

The problem is the writing.

Not to beat a dead hen, but the writing in that Skies of Arcadia game continues to impress me. It's all fairly cliche, but it is very well done, with moments of actually funny humor and genuine emotion.

I finally had a chance to get back to it this weekend and when the bad guys destroyed my base I'd spent so much time perfecting, I was yelling at the teevee. Specifically, when they blew up my koi pond. ("My fish!!")

Anyway, I'm sad that I'm nearing the completion of the game, but it looks like there are still a few things to do after the main plot is over, so at my play rate I might have a few months of it left.

I'm at about 84 hours, which is nothing compared to Pokemon or DDR, but is still a damn good return on the investment.

Paper Mario Descendant

What? Did I really miss one of these? Or is it something that requires me to buy yet another system just to play one game? I think I might let it slide if it isn't wonderful (although, in retrospect, that Superstar game was pretty good).

Nothing has really lived up to Paper Mario for me so far. SMRPG had some memorable bits and the 1000 Year Door was OK, but they all lacked that Goombario zing.

I still have one more item to collect in that horrible Baten Kaitos game, but it requires leaving the Cube turned on for 100 hours and apparently you don't even get a "hooray" message, you just get to see 1024/1024 (or whatever) and the knowledge that, on your deathbed, you'll have a lot of splaining to do about all that time with which you could have done something fun or interesting.

kalibut: ... bitching about Final Fantasy after you've already agreed to play it in the first place is just in poor taste.

A fair point, but the world really sucks for you if like this style of game, but don't want to wade through profound crapulence.

[ 01-02-2007, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Mr. K ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Wintermute:
I'm playing the FF III remake on DS Lite. This is a very nice looking game and the 15-year old game play is exactly what I felt like, so that's no problem.

If you need a friend code, email me. But the last job takes forever to be useful. Blech.

I unlock the hard mode on Elite Beat Agents.

Does anyone other than me and kalbar have Tetris DS?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. K:
Paper Mario Descendant

What? Did I really miss one of these? Or is it something that requires me to buy yet another system just to play one game? I think I might let it slide if it isn't wonderful (although, in retrospect, that Superstar game was pretty good).

Nothing has really lived up to Paper Mario for me so far. SMRPG had some memorable bits and the 1000 Year Door was OK, but they all lacked that Goombario zing.

Mario and Luigi: Partners in Crime. For the DS. It's a sequal to Superstar Saga, so if you liked that, you should love this.
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quote:
Originally posted by JohtoMaster:
Partners in Crime.

really? really?

Elite Beat is fucking amazing and is one of three DS titles that I enjoyed so much my cheapskate ass purchased a legal copy of it. to be fair, I was already so far sold on the game by the time it saw a domestic release because of Ouendan that it didn't really matter. unfortunately, it has major shortcomings in the form of a retardedly gay song selection and the inability to skip the adorable-the-first-time-but-repetitive-as-fuck-in-all-subsequent-viewings cut scenes between "sections" in the songs. all told, EBA is a better title than Ouendan but some japanafucks over at SA will tell you otherwise (they are lying).

jef you should enjoy superstar saga and partners in time very much. if you were such a paper mario lover, how do you just "not hear about" these games?

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kalamine: you should enjoy superstar saga and partners in time very much.

I liked the Superstar game. It's the reason I bought the Cube. I got the adapter thing for it and, now that I think about it, it's the only game I have that uses the adapter. I looked at a WarioWare game I thought I'd like, but it was the one that required moving the Game Boy around, so it wouldn't work.

I really haven't even considered that catalog of games, so maybe there's something in there worth playing. That's the GBA, right?

I looked up the Partners in Time thing, but it looks like it requires a DS, which isn't really my thing. If we had decent mass transportation in this town, maybe I'd be into it...but probably not...doesn't look like something to be played for 20 minutes to and from work.

if you were such a paper mario lover, how do you just "not hear about" these games?

I don't hear about most games. I don't read any gamer sites or magazines. The only reason I noticed DDR is because I saw it at Islands of Adventure and I only reason I noticed Guitar Hero was because I saw some kid playing it at a Best Buy.

I learned about Pokemon from the cartoon.

I usually only buy about 3 or 4 games a year, which seems to be just as well, because even so I still end up with stuff that sucks.

I have to figure that there are at least a couple PS2 (or PS1) games out there that don't suck. PaRappa was PS1, right?

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Does Tetris DS have a co-op mode?
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quote:
Originally posted by Wintermute:
Does Tetris DS have a co-op mode?

no. Tetris DS is actually a very bad, lazy version of Tetris as we know and love it -- I would have much preferred a straight-across port of "The New Tetris" for N64 (best version of the game seen on consoles and the yardstick by which all other Tetrises should be measured against). if you know a bunch of people locally with DS's you can play it with up to ten people and pick teams. we have done this a few times, but local Tetris matches are too few and far between because of the difficulty associated with finding a bunch of people with DS's.

unfortunately Tetris DS will go down as a success because it's a Nintendo version of Tetris that's playable online. and I'll be perfectly honest, I've played it more than any previous version of Tetris for that reason and that reason alone. when I can get jewed by Sama playing 1,500 miles away from the comfort of my couch (or McDonalds lol) and my cellphone-sized console, it's really a thing of beauty.

the only online modes are "1v1" and "1v1v1v1 with items on". the items are the same shit you see in Mario Kart only with whacky Tetris interpretations. they are funny and novel for 1-5 rounds but after that you won't want to see them ever again. and yes, you read that right -- you can't turn them on in 2-player online mode (not a big deal) and you can't turn them off in 4-player online mode. additionally the only song it plays it the stupid repetitive 8-bit Mario song which is also cute and funny for 1-5 rounds but is forever after annoying as sin. the original Tetris song makes a cameo deep into the single-player game, but nothing besides that godawful shit-Mario song is available for multiplayer (no music select option).

there are a lot of other very simple features they could have included that would have made it an amazing title and would have taken very little time on Nintendo's part that I won't go into at the risk of sounding even complainier than I already do.

but yeah cool game plz buy and give friendcode ty

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I got FF3 a few days ago and I've almost finished it already. While it is sufficiently mindless amusement to keep tapping A, the game is total trash.

It's one thing for gameplay to be "old-school", but FF3's gameplay is just broken. There's no reason to use half of the classes, ANY status effects, or many special abilities. What's more, the game feels no need to inform the player what any device or spell or weapon etc actually does, and according to GameFAQs there's even several kinds of hidden levels and exp and so on. It's just nonsensical. What's more, the DS version is apparently rebalanced; I can't fathom how they thought the changes constituted balance, or how terrible the original must have been if this was an improvement.

Particular points of angst: no way to check armor's magic defense (or other effects) without buying it, checking status, equipping it, checking status again. No save points ANYWHERE. Black magic is completely worthless, as is half of white magic. Geomancers are unbelievably overpowered. Story, as noted, is nonexistent. Internet connectivity exists solely to annoy you with the fact that you have to send email to unlock stuff.

I really don't get how this became one of the most popular franchises in Japan.

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I decided to go with FFV instead of FFIII, and I've thoroughly enjoyed my decision. The job system is much better, features none of the equipment problems you mentioned, and provides a nice nostalgia trip. As of this morning, I've logged 92.5 hours on it. Make of that what you will.
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K: Not to beat a dead hen, but the writing in that Skies of Arcadia game continues to impress me.

Which fact I've been recalling at approximately 5 minute intervals while playing this other one, let me assure. Good writing doesn't grow on trees, but when your game is guaranteed by hardware limitations to have shitty graphics and sound (meaning the NES version), you'd think it would be good to focus on the texty bits.

As for why they ever became popular in the first place, the only thing I can think of is that there were a number of other NES RPGs that were even shittier.

Cal's point is sensible and I'm trying to comply, but damn it's just hard.

I have to figure that there are at least a couple PS2 (or PS1) games out there that don't suck. PaRappa was PS1, right?

It was. And there are non-sucking PS2 games, though I'm hard pressed to think of ones that don't belong to franchises or genres that you wouldn't hate. There are a couple of good music games actually, but you probably don't want to saturate on those if you're aiming for Guitar Hero.

Maybe you could get into Grand Theft Auto. I've never actually played, but I think it's all the rage with the kids.

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FYI: The PS2 plays PS1 titles too, in case you want to play PaRappa.
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I beat PaRappa in one day at a friend's house (although obviously I didn't see all the Easter eggs), but maybe I'll check out PaRappa 2 if it's 5 or 10 bucks.

I have friends who loved the old GTAs, but I'm not a huge fan of FPSs on consoles or driving games in general, but I enjoyed that Simpsons driving game, so maybe I'll try one out.

Anyone have any info on which versions are detectably better or worse than others?

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I have some answers.

The slim PS/2 plays both acey and deucy burnt DVDs. Also CDs.

It does not however play the DVD Wintermute got me last Xmas which is apparently region-coded for Mars as well as poisonous to my television.

Also the Butthole Surfers rock. I was very pleased with the inclusion of that tune. I used to listen to that song really really loud so I couldn't hear the sound effects when playing Quake deathmatch. Better without the long intro which I had to cut out manually so long ago.

Good times.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. K:
It does not however play the DVD Wintermute got me last Xmas which is apparently region-coded for Mars as well as poisonous to my television.

Is that Jump London? Crappy, and weird that I've never had any trouble.

Also kali-sama, what Clubhouse Games do you play?

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I play President a lot.

k-bar loves to play Bowling.

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fucking suck at bowling unfortunately
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I like Bowling and especially Darts, but I quickly worked out how to cheat in a way that didn't remove the fun, though I can't regard them as real endeavors any more. I would name the simple trick (if naming the two games where it helps hasn't given it away) but then you too may try it and become addicted +/or damned. I bet some or most of those motherfuckers in the Darts top 10 use it.

I don't play any of the card games, but will now learn Presidents to avoid later abuse.

I'm keen on Dots and Boxes. I learned how to doublecross (this sounds like another cheat but is a tactic) and now it's hard to find enough good players to improve further.

I used to fancy myself a Turncoat player, but the very first game I played some punk broke out a set of power tools and left me with an anus the size of a garbage can. Haven't had the spirit to go back.

I'd like to learn the Shogis.

Balance looked like a throwaway to me at first, but I'm kinda enjoying it.

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quote:
Originally posted by JohtoMaster:
I decided to go with FFV instead of FFIII, and I've thoroughly enjoyed my decision. The job system is much better, features none of the equipment problems you mentioned, and provides a nice nostalgia trip. As of this morning, I've logged 92.5 hours on it. Make of that what you will.

FF5 beats the everliving shit out of 3. It's story is pretty fucking goofy to boot.

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Wintermute: Is that Jump London?

You are correct, sir. I suppose I'll load it into the PC, then determine if I'm going to watch it on the monitor or burn it back into a more reasonable DVD format.

Also it is PAL.

Also also I fed a giraffe yesterday. That is not a metaphor or anything.

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Winterhax: I like Bowling and especially Darts, but I quickly worked out how to cheat in a way that didn't remove the fun, though I can't regard them as real endeavors any more. I would name the simple trick (if naming the two games where it helps hasn't given it away) but then you too may try it and become addicted +/or damned.

please explain in intimate detail. I figured you meant you just put a straight-edge on the touchscreen to make sure you move the plastic pen in a straight line everytime but I tried that and my results were worse than free-handing.

help me break clubhouse games thx

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Using two styli can hax it into thinking you're drawing a straight line, though I haven't tried it specifically on clubhouse games.
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quote:
Originally posted by starCaliber:
help me break clubhouse games thx

It's just the straight edge. I use an old credit card and hold it in place with my left thumb, pressing gently upwards towards the hinge to keep it straight.

(More detail: I press down on the card to keep the stylus from shifting it, but not so hard that the card bends and I'm pressing the screen. Also my left thumb is positioned near the top edge of the screen to help with this. I lick my thumb for grip. Re: the stylus, I try to throw as hard as possible without letting the tip hit the top edge of the screen, which'll tend to stall the throw. Also I still am basically trying to shoot straight, because sometimes your hand can pull away from the edge (to the right), or can shift the card if you're pressing too hard. The movement is more in the wrist and fingers than the shoulder.)

It still takes practice, which is why I find it addictive. If it worked perfectly every time I'm sure I'd find it pointless. I'd say I bowl strikes or spares on 80-90% of frames now, which is nice because I get into close matches with genuinely good players (who hit strikes going cross-lane, which is a better way to do it if you're not a cheater). I suppose I could cut the top of the credit card to do the cross-lane thing...

There's still plenty of challenge for darts, because throw weight is so important. Basically the edge just keeps me from having truly shitty games. The best players still trounce me.

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To those with a PS2 - get the following games

Space Channel 1 & 2 (K if you haven't played this yet I think you would like it)
Phantasy Star Generation 1 - (remake of the 1987 sweetest RPG of the time, Phantasy Star for sega master system)

also the original Silent Hill game

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K: Also it is PAL.

I finally got around to checking my copy and it is indeed PAL, though it is region coded for all of the earth.

Sorry man. I aspire to one day send you a god damn disc that doesn't get scratched or snapped in half or poison your TV or similar.

Clearly your imperialist merkin appliance is the problem, because I also sent a copy to my brother in Guadalajara, who had no trouble playing it on a player that was probably constructed by doozers. It precipitated the formation of some kind of Guadalajaran parkour squad and got passed around like herpes and I don't think anyone was immune.

I just bt'ed a VCD of The Host which looks like my kind of movie. If it's good I'll send it to you. Maybe it'll play in your fridge.

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Buy me

someone link the creepy bald guy to this

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No time for forum. Can't stop playing Katamari.
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Can't think. Katamari song stuck in my head. Won't go away. Send help.
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put the katamari song on your mobile for more fun
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Wintermute: Maybe you could get into Grand Theft Auto.

I got San Andreas because the cute chick at the video game store said it was the most recent one (that wasn't a port from the portable game). I figured it would probably have the least crappy camera and such.

My first impression is that it sucks balls. The camera is still horrible and constantly does illogical things (although there seem to be some kind of camera modes, so maybe there's a way to make it behave). The cutscenes are OK, but they are a pain in the ass to skip. You just have to hit a button, but they take a long time to load, and if they string a few together, you have to wait for each to load before you can skip it.

There should be a Restart Mission button.

The music is OK and it looks like there's a way to turn it off, which makes me happy.

I can see now what other games (like the Hulk and the Simpsons driving game that isn't the one that sucks) have taken from it, but they both had better control schemes. I had better character control as Homer Simpson.

I understand what parents are pissed off about in terms of language and violence now. I kind of feel dirty playing it, in that there isn't much sense of irony or guilty pleasure in it all. The game treats shooting a cop like it's really cool, instead of kind of funny in a hyperrealistic way.

I'll keep playing it, but right now I am not impressed.

It was kind of sad, staring at a whole wall full of games not seeing anything I wanted to buy. Most games must be fucking awful.

They didn't have that Space Channel game, but I wasn't looking for another music game just yet anyway.

As soon as I can figure out how to save a game, I'm probably going to go back to Katamari.

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I had to keep playing to get to the save point, so I played some more.

The fonts are way too small for television resolution. You'd think they'd have that fixed by now. Either that or they want you to buy HDTV to play.

The radar display sucks. The center is not clear because your icon is the same color as the objects you want to avoid. The system of dark blue icons on black backgrounds is amateurish and stupid. The arrow indicators over the vehicle/person/whatever that should be drawing your attention are too faint with all the clutter on the screen. And the camera system was designed by a drunken herbivore with no stereoscopic vision.

I can only imagine how awful the early games must be. And the fact that this is so popular is really a terrible reflection on gaming.

All that aside, the game itself seems pretty cool. Lots and lots of stuff to do and as much time as you want to roam around and see the sights. I spent a long time swimming and looking for sharks and turtles and stuff.

The "funny" stuff isn't very funny at all. The dialog is not interesting, other than sounding different from other video games, but that gets old fast. All that work on the graphics engine and still crappy writers.

The funniest thing so far was the complete lack of wit in one response, where the fast food guy said 20 things that aren't the slightest bit funny and then "Cock-a-doodle fuck.", just because the writer was clearly running out of stuff for him to say. That was unexpected and good.

More of that.

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that game always struck me as a novelty of sorts. I am a little upset about how it depicts things as there are some very stupid and impressionable youths out there somewhere who are influenced by it. Not that it's the game's fault, just upsetting to know that it has power -- like that fucking Family Guy show. And anna nicole smith post mortem.
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As a game, it has a very large map and a ton of things to do and interact with. In some ways, it very much seems like the product of a series of sequels, as you can just feel each added layer of complexity designed specifically to add newness.

I've got a lot of respect for the game and the work put into setting up the radio stations and such.

But the interface fucking sucks and they've got all these real actors delivering lines that seem like they've been written by a couple suburban white teenagers who watched Boyz N the Hood a few times.

There are scenes that are supposed to be powerful and emotional, but they don't work at all when you've just been punching chicks in bikinis in the face for fun.

The humor almost completely sucks. It's Carlos Mencia-style, where stereotypes are repeated but there's no new layer of observation, insight, or irony.

Playing the game doesn't make me feel more violence-prone, but it does make me want to go out and buy cheap junk food.

All that said, I asked the cute chick for an RPG with no wizards and elves, so at least she delivered.

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i played one hour of a pirated copy of GTA3 about six ago (get it because i pirate games, i don't know if i've mentioned this yet), and it was quasi-fun at best.

haven't been back for more since. your observations are fun to read though.

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quote:
Originally posted by MewtwoSama:
[URL=http://cgi.ebay.com/NINTENDO-PARTNER-SN-N64-64DD-BLUE-DEVELOPMENT-UNITS_W0QQitem
Z220044629281QQihZ012QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem] Buy me[/URL]

someone link the creepy bald guy to this

The Kat woman would shit a brick and bitch for months if he dropped $1600 on that.

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I got San Andreas because the cute chick at the video game store said it was the most recent one (that wasn't a port from the portable game). I figured it would probably have the least crappy camera and such.

...

And the camera system was designed by a drunken herbivore with no stereoscopic vision.


You're playing this on PS2, correct? I play it on the PC, and found that the camera was quite good in GTA3 and Vice City, but for San Andreas they made it so the camera lags waaaay behind when you turn a corner, so you end up staring at the front corner of your car and crash into something.

However, they largely made up for this by adding mouselook to vehicles. I found if I kept my right hand on the mouse, it was easy to force the camera to stay where I wanted it, as well as making it simple to flick the camera around to look behind/beside me. I could also force the camera up a bit to see farther in front of me (a feature I missed when I later went back and played GTA3 & VC again).

The only downside is that after I played for awhile, I ended up with shiny red spot on my wrist where it constantly rubbed against the mouse pad. (It didn't hurt or cause carpal tunnel, though.)

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You're playing this on PS2, correct?

Yeah. It's clearly designed for a higher-than-teevee resolution. The fonts are terrible and some of the indicators (particularly the ammo counter) are totally worthless. That whole dark-blue-on-black thing doesn't get any better as the game progresses.

I've been playing it off and on since I got it and it continues to entertain. No one can complain that they skimped on content.

The writing is still horrible and some of the missions are stupidly difficult (bad camera + sluggish controls + poor interface = angry player), particularly the "schools", which I think are only in there to increase the chance that you will destroy your PS2 in anger and have to buy another one.

I made no progress in the game for weeks when I couldn't beat the flight school and there was no way around it. Eventually I found a way to fudge it, but it was still pointless and irritating. If the game had elves, I would have given up at that point.

So, Cat, you're an insane conservative, what do you think of the content? I obviously don't think the game should be censored, but I think the designers should have exercised a little restraint, given the audience. Mostly because the most objectionable content doesn't make it funnier, more interesting, more entertaining, or more playable. My problem with it is so not much that it's offensive, but that it's lame.

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Well, I certainly don't think the gov't should be censoring it or anything like that, if that's what you're asking. (And that sex minigame thing has to be the dumbest controversy ever.)

I agree with you that a lot of the more violent stuff doesn't do anything to add to the game, and appears to have been put in specifically to create controversy and grab headlines.

As an "insane conservative", I found myself rolling my eyes quite often at some of the lame bits of liberal satire. Overall, the developers weren't very successful when trying to be funny, but there were a few good bits. ("I was devastated when I found out my wife was cheating on me, and even more devastated when she fell underneath a train. I was nowhere near her at the time, and my phone records prove that...")

also while i was composing this i caught a Chansey with Lucky Egg [Big Grin] [Trash Koffing]

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White Cat: Overall, the developers weren't very successful when trying to be funny...

Or anything else that had to do with the dialog. All of the "satire" was lame, because it was all Carlos Mencia-style. They just repeated racial, ethnic, political, etc. stereotypes and didn't do anything with them.

Who laughs at that krap?

And I like a good dick joke as much as anyone else, but the constant homophobic schtick is just not funny.

I kinda like the Import/Export thing. It's just the same "find the biscuit" anal completist gag you find in so many other RPGs, but somehow it's more fun to me. Pity that money is devalued the moment you can drop a $1M bet on credit in the casino.

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Also I'd just like to say fuck Guitar Hero II.

I have 5 stars on most of the Medium songs, but the Hard songs just jump right on in at a much more difficult level. They don't ease you into that fifth button at all, they just throw you right in the deep end.

Fuckers.

Also I basically finished San Andreas. The writing sucked all the way down to the last, boring, inevitable scene, but there was a lot of fun in that game. I'm not really into collecting all the virtual biscuits that are still left, because whatever bonuses they'd grant me are no longer of use and they're so difficult to find with the shitty draw distance that it's not fun any more to roam around and look for them. Although, to the game's credit, that was fun for a while. Lots to see.

I suspect this is one of those games that's designed to be sold with the book that tells you how to find everything, which makes it more like homework than a game.

I bought Space Channel 5 and was immediately annoyed with it, but after about an hour I recognized the potential and started to have a little fun. The one thing that really sucks is that you can't tell if your timing is too slow or too fast, so it's impossible to figure out what the computer is asking of you. There also appears to be a bit of lag in the Simon Says part, so you have to work out what the programmers meant, not what they're telling you to do. I kinda lost interest, especially since the first song sucks.

Also I got that Okapi or whatever game. The one with the wolf and the paintbrush. The stuff I read online made it sound cool, but I was disappointed to discover it's just another Find the Biscuit RPG. I knew I was in trouble the first time I smashed open a box and found coins inside. WTF does a god need with coins?

Anyway, it might be an OK game, but it's not actually anything new and different, which is the way all the gaming sites described it.

Also also I think I am going to be 100 years old and still complaining that software designers can't fucking figure out the fucking camera. They're going to be jacking images straight into my brain and the useless fucktards who design this poop are going to stick a pixellated tree right in front of my fucking virtual eyeballs when all I want to do is to access the retro Scarlett Johansson fuckbots.

Why is it that gamers are so complacent that shitty camera work is taken for granted? There should be saynotoshittycamerawork.com and nerds should be marching in the streets, lighting Mario effigies on fire and shit.

Jesus.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. K:
Also I'd just like to say fuck Guitar Hero II.

I bought Space Channel 5 and was immediately annoyed with it, but after about an hour I recognized the potential and started to have a little fun. The one thing that really sucks is that you can't tell if your timing is too slow or too fast, so it's impossible to figure out what the computer is asking of you. There also appears to be a bit of lag in the Simon Says part, so you have to work out what the programmers meant, not what they're telling you to do. I kinda lost interest, especially since the first song sucks.

yeah it took me a couple hours to get into the game's rhythm. You kinda need to listen to the music and press the button combinations with the beat as well as mirroring the syncopation of the person you are miming.

I also think that it's a game that I enjoyed playing in the company of other people. There is a Michael Jackson cameo in the game (he appears as a character called "Space Michael") that is terrific. Also once you get the system down it gets a lot more enjoyable; I can see why game homework isn't very appealing though [Razz]

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