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Jman
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I recently got this email from one of my teachers:

"US Preparing for Military Draft in Spring 2005
by Adam Stutz • Wednesday January 28, 2004
at 09:50 AM

The current agenda of the US federal
government is to reinstate the draft in order to
staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism."
Pending legislation in the House and Senate
(twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the
program so the draft could begin at early as
Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004
presidential election!

Reinstatement of the draft

Dear Friends and Family,

I urge you to read the article below on the
current agenda of the federal government to
reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a
protracted war on "terrorism."

Pending legislation in the House and Senate
(twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the
program so the draft could begin at early as
Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004
presidential election! But the administration is
quietly trying to get these bills passed NOW,
so our action is needed immediately. Details
and links follow.

If voters who currently support U.S.
aggression abroad were confronted with the
possibility that their own children or
grandchildren might not have a say about
whether to fight, many of these same voters
might have a change of mind. (Not that it
should make a difference, but this plan would
among other things eliminate higher
education as a shelter and would not exclude
women -- and Canada is no longer an option.)

Please send this on to all the parents and
teachers you know, and all the aunts and
uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let
your children know -- it's their future, and they
can be a powerful voice for change! Please
also write to your representatives to ask them
why they aren't telling their constituents about
these bills -- and write to newspapers and
other media outlets to ask them why they're
not covering this important story.

The Draft*

$28 million has been added to the 2004
Selective Service System (SSS) budget to
prepare for a military draft that could start as
early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to
Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system,
which has lain dormant for decades, is ready
for activation. Please see website:
http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to
view the SSS Annual Performance Plan -
Fiscal Year 2004.

The Pentagon has quietly begun a public
campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board
positions and 11,070 appeals board slots
nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular
election year topic, military experts and
influential members of Congress are
suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a
"long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and
a permanent state of war on "terrorism"]
proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice
but to draft.

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and H.R.
163 forward this year, entitled the Universal
National Service Act of 2003, "To provide for
the common defense by requiring that all
young persons [age 18--26] in the United
States, including women, perform a period of
military service or a period of civilian service in
furtherance of the national defense and
homeland security, and for other purposes."
These active bills currently sit in the
Committee on Armed Services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than
those from the Vietnam era remember.
College and Canada will not be options. In
December 2001, Canada and the US signed
a "Smart Border Declaration," which could be
used to keep would-be draft dodgers in.
Signed by Canada's Minister of Foreign
Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland
Security Director, Gov. Tom Ridge, the
declaration involves a 30-point plan which
implements, among other things, a
"pre-clearance agreement" of people entering
and departing each country. Reforms aimed at
making the draft more equitable along gender
and class lines also eliminates higher
education as a shelter. Underclassmen would
only be able to postpone service until the end
of their cur-rent semester. Seniors would have
until the end of the academic year.

*This article by Adam Stutz is from the "What's
Hot Off the Press" column of the newsletter of
Project Censored, a media research group at
Sonoma State University that tracks the news
published in independent journals and
newsletters. From these, Project Censored
compiles an annual list (more than 20 years
running) of 25 news stories of social
significance that have been overlooked,
under-reported, or self-censored by the
country's major national news media. The
mission of Project Censored is "to educate
people about the role of independent
journalism in a democratic society and to tell
The News That Didn't Make the News and
why."

"What's Hot Off the Press" includes student
synopses of articles currently being
investigated for inclusion in the next Project
Censored report. For more info and/or to
receive Project Censored's newsletter, go to
http://www.projectcensored.org, or email
[censored]@sonoma.edu

Don't believe it yet? Go to

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm

and search for "S 89", then later
search for "HR 163" where it says "By
Number" and you'll find the articles. I would
link you to the articles directly but that doesn't
work for some reason."

If you click that link at the bottom and search for "S 89" or "HR 163" the actual bill WILL show up. This is apalling and unbelievable. The message needs to get out.

As a male who will be graduating high school in 2005, I believe I speak for all of us (except maybe MK and Char42, who will find some excuse for this being a good thing) when I say FUCK.

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tl;dr

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She told The Associated Press she first realized her son was mentally ill in 1996 when he killed her oldest child, a 25-year-old woman who suffered from cerebral palsy, by beating her with a dumbbell.

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To sum things up.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DRAFT IN 2005

It sounds like one of those bills that will never pass... hopefully.

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Can't imagine a draft coming about, at least in the current situation... Too many people already against what we've done for them to forcibly escalate it in that manner. Our country is still at least somewhat based on what we want, and I think they'd have to straight draw out of the conflict long before they'd manage to run a draft. At least I hope so, that's a rather frightening thought....
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rofl only an idiot believes that.

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"My name is Atma...
I am pure energy... and as ancient as the cosmos.
Forgotten in the river of time...
I've had an eternity to ponder the meaning of things...
And now I have an answer..."

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Never believe e-mail forwards.
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Anthrax
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the us will never have a draft unless we are being attacked by aliens or something

a volunteer army works much better than a conscripted army

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She told The Associated Press she first realized her son was mentally ill in 1996 when he killed her oldest child, a 25-year-old woman who suffered from cerebral palsy, by beating her with a dumbbell.

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even if they did, I'm 4F material & in college, so I'm safe

[ 02-26-2004, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: MK ]

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quote:
Originally posted by MK:
even if they did, I'm 4F material & in college, so I'm safe

Yeah, it's great that you won't have to fight in a war you fully support! Just send those other, non-crippled, non-autistic, fully formed humans to the frontlines!

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She told The Associated Press she first realized her son was mentally ill in 1996 when he killed her oldest child, a 25-year-old woman who suffered from cerebral palsy, by beating her with a dumbbell.

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quote:
Originally posted by MK:
even if they did, I'm 4F material & in college, so I'm safe

They say college wouldn't matter so ha fucking ha. Everyone would be forced to do some sort of military requirement.

Now I'm deaf in one ear, so even if I get drafted I'll probably get a nice desk job or be a cook or something.

Or cannon fodder.

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See, even though this seems like an issue, it really isn't, because of how I misapply to Constitution to every post I make, and

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always trust cfalcon to come through

EDIT: wait

[ 03-02-2004, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: Fenix ]

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life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery

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I thought it was cfalcon too.

This would suck pretty bad if it were true.
~Uiru

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TIDUDSOFIEIHUGHEXXXC: "maybe he will let you touch his blow up do"

AFRO NOOOOOOO!!!

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See, even though this seems like an issue, it really isn't...

Lifted straight from the bald cranium of cflakkin...

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