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Kazuki
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I found this on the ground a few weeks ago, and realized only know that I had the perfect place to show it up.



I was curious if anything this card syas is true, since I've been liberated from my foreskin, and find myself still very much alive.

[ 01-13-2004, 02:00 AM: Message edited by: Kazuki ]

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oooo you did not just come out in favor of circumcision

Trust me, this will seem like one of the stupidist things ever to your grandkids. They'll be like "Parents let them cut off part of their WHAT?"

If you poke around, I've done this rant before.

There is no logical reason for it. None, seriously. Some people lie and talk about disease, but that's bullshit and they know it- any medical study will show that (the only legitimate study that showed anything vaguely signifigant was when they looked at men in Africa: there was a slightly lower rate of HIV in circumsized men, because circumcision strips the body of protection, and more cells grow to help out).

It also reduces pleasure during sex. You might think, oh, that's not true, but I assure you, yes, that is true. You might think, oh, that doesn't matter, and you'd be right on that count. Picture someone to whom sex only feels, say, half as good for as it does for you. That person would still want to have sex, right? And it would still feel good.

But there is no reason to deny someone a part of their body that they were born with. It is crazy as shit, and the only people that do it are (1) groups that believe that it is a religious necessity and (2) Americans who have irrational beliefs about cleanliness. In Europe, if you don't belong to a penischopping religion (Judiasm and Islam, to my knowledge), you don't get circumcized. Here, many people do, and it is just insane. Doctors here are finally changing their longheld and baseless belief that it is beneficial, too late for generations of males.

Additionally, Jews and Muslims now do the same kind of modern circumcision popularized in moral America, where the foreskin is entirely removed. Historically, it was simply reduced in size, not trimmed all the way down.

Would you like to know why part of your dick is missing?

Would you like to know what started this all?

It is so you don't masturbate as much.

That was how it was sold to parents, generations ago, and then it caught on- after all, if you were a doctor with your dick missing, you'd like to believe it was for some other reason, right?

Crazy. As. Shit.

Man, I could just go on about this one. It's a great topic, because it's utterly without rational basis, so logically I'm right, and it's horrible, so emotionally I'm right. If all topics were like this, I'd just be a zealot in general.

[ 01-13-2004, 03:39 AM: Message edited by: cfalcon ]

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Oh, and there's the great stories about guys that they fuck up- a baby dick is small, after all, and sometimes they, whoops, well, there it went. In some cases, they have raised the boy AS A GIRL and given him female hormones, generally making his (her?) life a total wreck.

All thanks to circumcision!

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This thread killed my horny.

The Captain Still Wears his Hat to the Table (tm).

edit: Maybe 'cfalcon killed' would have been more appropriate.
~Uiru

[ 01-13-2004, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: Uiru ]

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Kazuki
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I'm not trying to support it by any means, there's just not a whole lot I can do about it, since its over and done with, has been for a long time.

Also, I did hear about that botched circumcision guy being raised as a girl. I thought it was an urban legend, but then again, people are pretty dumb.

Edit: You seem to have a clear understanding on the topic cfalcon, but is anything else on the card true, like the thing about thousands of injuries and hundreds of deaths? I've never heard of babies being killed by circumcision.

[ 01-13-2004, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Kazuki ]

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circumcision gets me hard

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Well, hundreds of deaths in the US strikes me as pretty unlikely. In Africa, where they do it with unsterilized ritual spears and have many many many many people, I'll believe that you could get over a hundred deaths each year. See, even though circumcision doesn't have a great failure rate, a hundred deaths a year strikes me as unlikely.

Anyway, some googling brings us here, a site that doesn't like the procedure but seems willing to gather numbers, and use a conservative failure rate estimate (.2%). It estimates 131 to 2,744 deaths, but not per year, this is from 1940 to 1990.

http://www.noharmm.org/incidenceUS.htm

... and since this site is biased, the numbers could actually be different (though, as they point out, numbers aren't kept, which is sketchy). They end their article talking about possible psychological effects. While this strikes me as *plausible* there is no evidence of it- yet they write it as if it were fact.

I have no idea where the card gets that idea: my best guess is that in the article someone publicly guesses at a problem rate of 1.7%, and they probably did some multiplying to get a large number of fictitious deaths. I'm sort of pissed at them for mistating the facts. You shouldn't need a number of deaths to make something a bad idea, you know? Circumcision is failing on it's own merit, no one need to lie to make it look worse than it is. Just be like "It's a boy! For boys, we chop off the pinkies. It's in fashion!".

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This thread killed my horny

You clicked on a thread with "Forekskin" in the title.

No horny for you!

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quote:
Originally posted by cfalcon:
In Europe, if you don't belong to a penischopping religion (Judiasm and Islam, to my knowledge), you don't get circumcized.

Oooh yeah Englishfolk are all man

WOO

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Oh my God! I don't have any foreskin! What should I do?
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posting with a foreskin after someone that shouldn't worry as long as their clitoral hood is still intact and doesn't mind moving at the opportune moment

[ 01-13-2004, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: Boodabonzi ]

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OK, I know I'm probably not the nicest Pokemon Trainer when it comes to giving advice, and if I get flamed on this, it is probably well deserved. So here goes...

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quote:
Originally posted by Boodabonzi:
posting with a foreskin after someone that shouldn't worry as long as their clitoral hood is still intact and doesn't mind moving at the opportune moment

English motherfucker, do you speak it?!

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Since I understood his post my guess would be "yes".

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quote:
Originally posted by pkthunder:
Oh my God! I don't have any foreskin! What should I do?

wrap a piece of leather around your genitals.

of course, the first step is to get a penis. best work on that first ...

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quote:
Originally posted by Fenix:
Since I understood his post my guess would be "yes".

omg have you tried it gaywise?

I have; it's a hoot.

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OK, I know I'm probably not the nicest Pokemon Trainer when it comes to giving advice, and if I get flamed on this, it is probably well deserved. So here goes...

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If it felt any better, I think I *would* masturbate 24/7.

I like the idea of being uncircumsized -- but not so much the look. Can we invent semi-permanent penis sheaths to protect our glans until coitus time to work in much the same manner?

[ 01-13-2004, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: 10,000Lb.Snorlax ]

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When is the opportune moment and where/how should I move?
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I like the fact that I am restricted from masturbating more than three times a day.

Cfalcon apparently does not.

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A penis is still pretty ugly regardless of which way you look at it; I've never understood that complaint.

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MickHale18: *pulls out finger*

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The case has been made that
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It also reduces pleasure during sex.
Sure, that's possible. Makes sense, actually. The head (most sensitive part) is protected from contact with clothing (in the uncircumcised) during most activities.
In the circumcised, this would make it less sensitive to stimulation. Being that most ladies (far as I know) prefer a man who can go at it long enough to get them off, decreased sensitivity would be a benefit. A man who can go for it longer without letting loose the juice would be more desirable in our newly-orgasm-oriented society.

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It also reduces pleasure during sex.

Bullshit

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I like the fact that I am restricted from masturbating more than three times a day.

Cfalcon apparently does not.


I was about to say that I don't care how many times you can jerk off in a day, but then I realized that if you didn't have that limitation, there would be less posts where you are a brutal asshole.

So yes, I am opposed to that restriction.

Sure, that's possible. Makes sense, actually. The head (most sensitive part) is protected from contact with clothing (in the uncircumcised) during most activities.
Correct.

In the circumcised, this would make it less sensitive to stimulation.
Good intuition. The body puts on several layers of cells for one thing, which reduce sexual pleasure. The other thing you are missing, and this is big, is that you are missing part of your dick if you are circumcised, and are therefore missing a shit ton of errogeneous nerves. I would actually say this is a bigger deal, because you aren't just deadening an area, you are eliminating it entirely. The last thing you are missing is that the foreskin forms a sheathe during intercourse (the same effect that happens during masturbation without foreskin), and this effect is entirely lost after circumsision.

Being that most ladies (far as I know) prefer a man who can go at it long enough to get them off, decreased sensitivity would be a benefit.
This is where you depart from the land of rationality and head over to rationalization. I can demonstrate this in several ways:

1- Do men who are circumsised last longer in bed?
Ans: We have no idea. But if they did, it would probably be common knowledge. The assumption that more pleasure equals less sex is probably invalid to begin with, but we'll run with it.

2- The default state is uncut. If you are willing to use the "last longer in bed" arguement, then why not go further? There are other bits of your genitals you can mutilate to further your abcense of sexual pleasure, after all.

3- How long you last in bed is really up to you. Despite what you may think, you actually are in complete control of yourself, if it matters enough to you. The effort is simply not worth it for most men, but something as simple as practice can drastically change that situation.

This arguement is ultimately "let's chop off two of his fingers so his other three are really strong".

A man who can go for it longer without letting loose the juice would be more desirable in our newly-orgasm-oriented society.

This is not true. Being good at sex is not something you can use to attract women. The rare case where your pool of potential dates talks among themselves and would make a decision on that basis is perhaps an exception. You may be able to use it to keep one, but even that is unlikely.

But let's pretend your arguement is totally right, and you want to last longer in bed, and you want to get that way by reducing pleasure enough to maintain an erection but postpone ejaculation.

There is a gel for that.

Did you know that? We live in the 21st fucking century. I don't own a flying car OR the fucking minor dick anesthetic, but both exist. How about you just fucking buy the goddamn cock ointment and not chop off your dick?

Here are some deep questions for you:

1- Do you know any uncircumsised guys? If so, are any of them planning to get cut any time soon? How about ever? The answer is going to be "no". No man wants to do that, because it is stupid. Now, ask yourself, or a circumsised friend: If I could take a pill and my foreskin would grow back overnight, would I? The answer is not universally yes (mostly because of stuff I detail in (2)), but it's a good bet that a lot of you would try it.

2- Rationalization. I'll bet that the last two people (MK and 137) are both circumsised. Why? Because, having no knowledge on the topic, both offered opinions that backed up their existing state. There is nothing else that could account for this phenomena:

Me: Cutting parts of your dick off is bad.
137: Well, maybe it has good aspects.
MK: Prove that it is bad.

(paraphrasing)

The "less attractive" arguement is way, way subjective, but, more importantly, it doesn't fucking matter. There is NO WOMAN EVER who will be about to have sex with you but decide not to because you are / are not circumsized. When you meet her, she'll look at your nails, your hair, your eyes, your skin, etc. But unless you are a real freakshow or something, by the time your cock is out the deed is all but done.

Similarly, there is NO WOMAN EVER who will decide *to* have sex with you because your dick is / is not circumsised.

This should all be common sense.

Now, what do you do if you are circumsised? Well, there is nothing to be done. You can still function just fine in bed, sex still feels great, you get on with life. You are going to have a more fulfilling sex life than 95% of all people ever, so no big deal. But when your wife talks about circumsising your son, or a female friend brings it up, make it clear that there is NO REASON TO DO IT, that it is morally wrong, and that, more importantly, it is ridiculous.

If it comes to it, try this logic: "If I'm wrong, he can fix it when he's older. If you're wrong, it is broken forever and can never ever be undone."

Oh, one more thing: if you are a husband, just fucking forbid it if a wife brings it up. There aren't many things you are allow to forbid these days, but ritual genital mutilation of your innocent son sure is hell is on the list.

There are a lot of other arguements as to why it is a bad idea, besides the complications and the fact that it is unnecessary and stupid. While most of you won't be persuaded, it's worth pointing out that it hurts the baby like crazy, and has only recently been done with any kind of pain killer.

Now, as for MK:
It also reduces pleasure during sex.

Bullshit


Why do you say this? I assume you have had sex (or masturbated) while uncircumsized, then got cut, tried it again, and experienced no difference?

Some men, in fact, report what you just said, men who get circumsised later in life (it is really rare, but course it does happen). Others report the opposite, of course, and wish they had never done it.

But why don't you use your brain for a second? Answer the question:

Question: If you remove a nerve-rich area of the body, that part of the body:

(a) Has less nerves and is therefore less sensitive.
(b) Stays the same via some magical principle unknown to all.
(c) Becomes more sensitive via an even more impossible method than (a).

Well?

As I've done before, I'll know give my brief personal story. People who do not want to know anything about my dick can feel free to skip down to the next post.

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I am partially circumsized, meaning that the foreskin is smaller than it was originally, but still present (from what I've been able to discover, this closer to what *was* a circumsision in Biblical times). The skin underneath where the foreskin still exists is noticably more sensitive and in better shape, given that it has had the natural, God given defense against the elements. The foreskin is very sensitive, and I would absolutely fucking LOVE to have the rest of it. Take this as a lesson: I'm halfway between the two extremes, and I *know* which way I'd go if I could.

For those curious as to how this happened, the short story is that the doctor was good at these kind of of circumsisions, and talked my dad into it. I was raised believing that there were serious health benefits to a circumsised penis, but that never made sense to me. Years later, when a bit of looking up information (pre Internet, I don't know how I did anything back then) revealed that the foreskin is a hygenic piece of the body, like eyelids or lips, and that there isn't evidence in favor of it, I became pretty strongly against it.
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quote:
Originally posted by pkthunder:
When is the opportune moment and where/how should I move?

the fun part is finding out!

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I have been with 2 men who are completely uncut, 3 who are fully circumcized and 1 that is partially circumcized (guess who!). Let me tell you, there is no difference between the average lengths of their love-making. Circumcized men can shoot off just as fast as uncircumcized men, and often did, if not faster. Sadly, one of the circumcized men had problems keeping a rock-hard erection during sex, and I had to wonder if that would have been a problem if he still had all those nerve endings.
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Goodness, that's a lot of men, pkthunder!

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3 of them were me

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quote:
Originally posted by sunburnt_aphid:
Goodness, that's a lot of men, pkthunder!

I am 25. I've had a little time to collect them.
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quote:
Originally posted by cfalcon:
But there is no reason to deny someone a part of their body that they were born with.

What aboot tonsils? Ooo, or how aboot another person??

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appendix?

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Yes, taken out of context, tonsils apply- but even your nerdy, direct reading wouldn't apply to abortion, unless you subscribe to the 19th century view that a baby is born with little tiny babies, perfectly formed, wrapped up inside their sex cells (and each of those with a smaller baby, and so on, down to infinite).

And clearly the spirit of my arguement does apply to tonsils. Anyone ever had their tonsils removed, or a limb amputated? Probably several people here have had the former and no one here the latter, but your tonsils are not preemptively removed at birth- they are taken out if and only if they become dangerously inflamed. Limbs are amputated only if they become a threat to your life if not (gangrene). According to the letter of that one sentence, no one should get their appendix removed, even if it about to burst and kill them.

So, perhaps, that is not what I meant. Perhaps implied in my statement, since I had gone over it earlier, is the fact that there are no medical benefits to losing a protective part of your body (there have been rare cases, of course, where foreskin and has to be removed from medical neccessity). Perhaps I meant it in that context, would that make sense?

Properly, my statement should have been:

"But, barring medical neccessity, there is no reason to deny someone a part of their body that they were born with."

(Which still has nothing to do with abortion)

If you have somehow become aware of Fatal Dick Disorder, where foreskins rupture like appendices, or become dangerously inflamed, or are cancerous often, then obviously, you make an intelligent decision based on this fact. Heck, often, you can ask the owner!

If yall want to play stupid word games, count me out.

There have been cases where people have a problem with their foreskin, and have them removed. Does anything in my posts sound like I have issue with this? Barring a reason like this, however, most men will leave their dick intact. So, perhaps this should give us a call as to what to do to a baby: don't cut.

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quote:
Originally posted by cfalcon:
...abortion...

Where the hell did that come from? I meant twins stuck together...

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What's really cool about not being circumsized is that you can pull it's skin back to reveal the head all the way. Like a turtle!

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Oh, my bad, ok.

Either way, you're just playing word games. I'm like "You shouldn't jump out of buildings" and you're like "Well, what about if they are falling down and you have a parachute." Sure. I'm saying use common sense. Common sense doesn't yield the current situation, at all.

What does yield the current situation is crazy nutbags. Here we google for:

Kellog carbolic acid

(no quotes)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Kellogg+carbolic+acid&btnG=Google+Search

This thinking was part of the movement that got America all up with the chopping.

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Everytime cfalcon posts, an angel gets his foreskin back.

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Two things puzzle me. One, circumcision will strengthen your foreskin which is good for preventing std’s right?

Two, you haven’t come up with a reason for why jerking off more than 3 times a day is good for you. Sure you replied with an insult but I thought you are better at arguing your point than using insults to ignore arguments.

The only reason you seem have for keeping foreskin is that there is no good medical reason to remove it. True that there is no serious reason to remove foreskin, but if you contrast circumcised penises and the ones not circumcised,
the circumcied come out a little bit better.

Please keep in mind that I will not read a 10 page long response on such a simple topic. Keep it fucking short.

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Two things puzzle me. One, circumcision will strengthen your foreskin which is good for preventing std?s right?

No, circumsision will *remove* your foreskin. This actually leaves you *more* vulnerable to most STDs. The interesting exception was done in Africa, where they found a higher rate of AIDS in areas where circumsision was less common. The assumed explanation is that since the skin of the head gets thicker after a circumsision (the part that is supposed to be covered isn't), this is responsible for the decrease in AIDS cases.

This could actually have been because of a lot of other reasons, like the fact that different ethnic groups have different sexual practices *and* different opinions on whether to circumcise or not, so it could actually be something totally different: it could be the statistical equivalent at looking at maps and deciding that living in the inner city causes sickle cell anemia.

No one has ever tested the ability of a virus to spread in that manner (which could be done, even in humans, without using a fatal virus: plenty of good cold studies start by shooting the virus up your nose ,after all), so it could all just be BS.

Two, you haven?t come up with a reason for why jerking off more than 3 times a day is good for you.

Ok, are you being serious? Who cares how many friggin times you can jerk off in a day? Was that on my list of arguements?

But, I'll do it anyway, because I can.

Being able to masturbate X+1 times a day is better than being able to masturbate X times a day, because you have increased your range of options. A man who can masturbate to orgasm seventeen times in a day is in no way forced to by his increased ability, he merely has it.

Is that a good arguement? If it isn't then I'll bounce it back at you and ask what reason you would have for wanting to have more limitations, especially sex related ones.

That was why I was so flippant before: it isn't relevant.

The only reason you seem have for keeping foreskin is that there is no good medical reason to remove it.

Ok, think of someone that wants to surgically remove your arm. Now, pretty much every arguement you make against that has a general equivalent on the dick chopping side. Obviously, an arm is very useful, whereas a foreskin is less so. But though the magnitudes differ, the general arguements are the same.

And there are other reasons- medical complications, asymmetry of the situation (an adult can decide he wants a circumsision, but if he decides he wants an intact foreskin the only way he can achieve one is if the parents didn't butcher him as a babe), etc.

You also say that cut comes out better than uncut.

Except it doesn't, which I point out. In fact, no surprise, natural wins the day as usual.

Please keep in mind that I will not read a 10 page long response on such a simple topic. Keep it fucking short.

While it is in style to make fun of me because I try to be thorough, it impresses no one.

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All future foreskin topics are banned.

Don't wind up the bald man.

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hey Cfalcon, what's it like having a head that looks like a circumcized phallus?

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OK, I know I'm probably not the nicest Pokemon Trainer when it comes to giving advice, and if I get flamed on this, it is probably well deserved. So here goes...

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You know, it took me until now to get what Booda was saying.
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And I'm sure there's a very good reason for that.
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Less neural endings in his cranium?
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hahahahahaha

also I am in support of everything cfalcon has said in this topic.

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bring it around town

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OK, I know I'm probably not the nicest Pokemon Trainer when it comes to giving advice, and if I get flamed on this, it is probably well deserved. So here goes...

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cfalcon, I agree with your counterpoints.

I have never claimed to be a good writer. Looking back at my post, I realize someone would have to be a remarkably liberal reader to not come away with the impression that I'm pro-circumcision. But I'm not.

These are just things I tell myself to "rationalize" my situation, which is as you guessed. I'm not quite dumb enough to shape an opinion from uninformed conjecture, I just neglected to state that I was arguing a side I don't align myself with.

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cfalcon is always wrong.
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Oh, whoops.
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K is fucking around. I am always right when it comes to cocks. He's just pissed because I wrote an email he disagrees with, in an entirely unrelated topic.
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haha
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cfalcon has never seen a foreskin he didn't like.
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if you know what I mean

and I think you do [Wink]

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