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New Guy
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posted 10-21-2003 07:08 PM      Profile for New Guy   Email New Guy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I seem to remember a few eps of TNG that had classroom scenes with really young children. Thing is, the enterprise was always doing really dangerous stuff. I'm sure some kids must have died sometimes, if they were on there. Why would a parent want their kid on a star ship that encountered wierd and dangerous stuff every week?

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posted 10-21-2003 09:10 PM      Profile for Miko     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They wouldn't, but you try being on a ship 24/7 and not get it on with someone without forgetting protection.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Wait, damn.

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posted 10-21-2003 10:29 PM      Profile for Rysto   Email Rysto   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Because the Enterprise went on such long missions(7 years?), the crew was allowed to bring family members with them. Although, isn't it odd that none of the important members of the crew had any family at all(other than Dr. Crusher's son Wesley)?

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posted 10-21-2003 10:59 PM      Profile for Kazuki     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I seem to remember Picard having a family on earth.

He visited them in the past, in some Star Trek movie, with Shatner in it, and Shatner rode a horse...

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posted 10-22-2003 01:42 AM      Profile for cfalcon   Email cfalcon   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In reality, no one would put their kids on a ship that keeps getting attacked.

"Hmm... should my six year old be transported by a malicious godlike being to another galaxy? Or should he stay with his friends on earth..."

It was a sign that they expected to be in no real danger on a ship with no military mission.

But, come on.

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Why would a parent want their kid on a star ship that encountered wierd and dangerous stuff every week?

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posted 10-22-2003 08:27 AM      Profile for Donald   Email Donald      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rysto:
Although, isn't it odd that none of the important members of the crew had any family at all(other than Dr. Crusher's son Wesley)?

And Worf's kid, Alexander.
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posted 10-22-2003 06:26 PM      Profile for Rysto   Email Rysto   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Right, I forgot about Alexander.

Kazuki, I didn't mean that they have no family at all, but no wives or husbands or kids.

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quote:
Originally posted by cfalcon:
In reality, no one would put their kids on a ship that keeps getting attacked.

"Hmm... should my six year old be transported by a malicious godlike being to another galaxy? Or should he stay with his friends on earth..."

It was a sign that they expected to be in no real danger on a ship with no military mission.

But, come on.

How you feel about your children is, in part, culturally based. Although I realise that the Enterprise itself seems to be very Western in culture and socialization, ethics and "right and wrong" may be fundamentally different. If that is the case, people might not feel so bad sending their children into potentially dangerous situations. Actually, parents might be encouraged to bring their kids for both psychological reasons and reasons pertaining to the sustaining of the population of the ship (this is assuming, of course, that some people in the Federation figured there may be tough times ahead for the starship).

Buuuuuut, if they never thought it would be dangerous on the Enterprise, why the hell not bring your family with you? It's a luxury few have who work away from home.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rysto:
Right, I forgot about Alexander.

Kazuki, I didn't mean that they have no family at all, but no wives or husbands or kids.

Um, he had a wife and kids...

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Western values? You might say that. The ship's crew consists of a bunch of 1980s-90s era card carrying Democrats, with plots like "Here's a planet with submissive men" and "What is the meaning of gender". Don't forget all the places that achieve utopia but lose their humanity in some cumbersome conservative fashion ("Wesley steps on a plant and gets death by lethal injection- next time, ond DRAGONBALL Z").

Additionally, the Enterprise stopped by Earth about once a season. They stopped by bases, met up with Federation ships, and were in constant communication. It wasn't like they were out there alone with no way back for so long that you would need kids along te replenish the crew. I *did* notice that when the ship was about to explode or something, the kids were never around.

I think the kids were there to show that life on Enterprise was largely *normal*.

But it was a touch of an oversight. The real reason is because they just kind of accepted plots from everyone and ran with the good stories (the same reasons that so many plots were hippie wet dreams- most trekkies are way idealistic), and somebody must have needed kids in one episode, and well, there you go.

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posted 10-23-2003 02:44 PM      Profile for White Cat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Much of the point of the "separate the saucer section" gimmick was that most of the crew quarters (and therefore the children) were on the saucer, so it could stay behind where it was safe while the other half went into battle.

Of course, most of the time they didn't bother to do that...

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That Vulcan chick is so hot I am touching myself right now.
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Ok, so there are some reasones why kids were allowed on board. But what about when a kid died? What would be the federations response? In all the beatings that the saucer section took, surely some kids bit it?

dirty old man-That Vulcan chick is so hot I am touching myself right now.

I don't like her one bit. Emotionless logic and titties at the same time don't do it for me.

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New Guy: Emotionless logic and titties at the same time don't do it for me.

What could be better? A hot chick, who never goes on the rag, isn't conceited about her hotness, is way into science and discovery, is super strong, and has a job she really cares about so she won't devote her life to sticking her nose into your business.

Plus she has that ass.

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I didn't know Vulcans were super-strong.
The only physical superiority I've seen displayed was the nerve-pinch thing, which I assumed was just applied knowledge of physiology.

I'm no trekkie, though.

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Well, Spock was always whipping everyone's ass and he was only half-Vulcan. Granted, they seem to have forgotten all about that in the new series.

Also science chicks rule.

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You know, I heard somewhere that the Enterprise is like a whole other city entirely, far away in space.
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New Guy
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Isn't there some kinda vulcan mating season thingy? Like if they don't fuck they will die or something? Then would be a nice time to be around the vulcan chick.

Otherwise, how often would you get with her? She is a career woman. She would have nothing to do with a relationship. She would be the perfect girlfriend if she would go out with anybody, but I just don't see it happening.

And thank god and jebus they don't go on the rag, cause they have green blood. Imagine seeing that in your bathroom trash can.

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