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ceoalex316
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posted 07-24-2003 01:45 AM
Just not a book people read in high school, college books are ok.
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posted 07-24-2003 02:16 AM
College Physics, Fifth Edition, by Raymond A. Serway and Jerry S. Faughn.
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posted 07-24-2003 02:31 AM
American Hero was really good.
Hard-boiled cop story plus a whole fuckload of Bush-bashing. It's the thing Wag the Dog was "based on", altho, as far as I can tell, it's almost entirely unlike the movie except for the most basic premise.
It mixes reality and fiction a lot (Bush is actually a character in the book), but it makes you think.
EDIT: Obviously, if you're a Republican, it will probably just piss you off, but it's a fun read even without the political stuff. It's got ninjas.
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posted 07-24-2003 02:51 AM
Anything by Pratchett, Douglas Adams, Piers Anthony,
Timeline by Michael Crichton
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posted 07-24-2003 02:51 AM
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Originally posted by Mr. K:
It's got ninjas.
Sold!
Also, read American Gods. It was really good, although you might like it a little better if you have any kind of background knowledge on mythology (Norse, Celtic, etc.)
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posted 07-24-2003 03:12 AM
Ninjas, eh? Um, to Mr. K, a lover of Bush-bashing, I would recommend "Children of the Matrix" by David Icke. But don't bother if you're completely turned off by hardcore conspiracy theory. This is the hardcore.
To others:
I enjoyed "Ancient Evenings" by Norman Mailer, and it's only a quarter as romance novel as it sounds, but it gave me an interest in Egyptian mythology.
Parallel Universes - by Fred Alan Wolf was my first physics book, and has inspired a lifelong love of physics.
The God Particle - by Leon Lederman, an excellent explanatory and humorous writer; also physics, particle physics.
The Tao of Physics - by Frijtov Capra was an excellent correlation of western physics and eastern mysticism, as the sub-title states. For more read The Dancing Wu Li Masters by Gary Zukav.
I've really only researched religion and physics extensively, and religion was so long ago that book names are impossible to remember. And fiction's not my bag. So that's it.
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posted 07-24-2003 03:32 AM
Hmm...Here Goes
Treason-Ann Coulter, for everyone whos a conservative out there, Mr. K i believe that youll rip the hair off your head(or lack thereof i dont know whether you have hair or not) out because she theorizes that liberals are treasonous because they dont defend US causes, btw Im a Republican who likes ninjas
Dracula-Bram Stoker, Heres something that all of us can enjoy, read it because you'll know where everything good and bad in vampire lore comes up
The Call of Cthulu-H.P. Lovecraft...a short story that a friend recommended to me about a week ago, reminds me a lot of the above book in style
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire-dont know who wrote it, but I loved it, follows story of N64/PC game with more background
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posted 07-24-2003 04:12 AM
Fiction: Anything by Neal Stephenson, especially Snow Crash.
Nonfiction: Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter.
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posted 07-24-2003 04:34 AM
Harry Potter is my world
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posted 07-24-2003 04:59 AM
Twinkle, you like one of Rolk's favorite books. (I like it too... your nonfiction selection is very good.)
Okieday. My personal favorites are way too long to list, so I'll go with ones that made me think:
For cfalcon & K: "Lolita", by Vladmir Nabakov. (To anyone who doesn't get the joke: kill yourself.)
For shiny happy morbid people: "In Cold Blood", by Truman Capote.
For sci-fi people: "The Truth Machine", by James Halperin (who is just as fascinating a man in person as his book is), or most of the stuff Robert Heinlein wrote.
For fantasy people: Oooh, fluffy. Mercedes Lackey is good, but so fluffy at times. Overall... Piers Anthony's stuff is a lot of fun. Twinkies for your brain, folks.
For non-fic people: The People's Almanac, any edition. (These are TOO COOL.)
For freakish satan-spawn: The Book of Mormon
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Edit: For non-fluffy Sci-fi/fantasy, "Beggars in Spain", by Nancy Kress, is pretty good. Don't bother with the sequels.
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posted 07-24-2003 06:22 AM
Is Mr.K a bad enough dude to rescue to president?
One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish is the epitome of rhyme.
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posted 07-24-2003 09:52 AM
Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy.
Unspeakable violence made so transfixing and beautiful that you feel like you're gaping at an autopsy of the world.
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posted 07-24-2003 10:51 AM
Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut
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posted 07-24-2003 11:26 AM
that book about the jew
oh yeah, it's called the bibel or somethign
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posted 07-24-2003 01:41 PM
Swan Song by Robert R. McCammon. Just read it, need no descriptions. Well, it is Horror I think.
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posted 07-24-2003 04:28 PM
1984 - George Orwell
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posted 07-24-2003 08:38 PM
Honestly, anything by Kurt Vonnegut is generally excellent.
I'll check out the "Blood Meridian" thing.
Recently, I've noticed that, upon opening a poppy book, I can get immediately turned off just by character descriptions. Usually because they write entirely for a movie, and upon describing the strong, independent, intelligent woman that is one of their main characters, she always has EVERY BULLSHIT CHARACTERISTIC that I despise out of movie people- and we always get some thinly disguised crap about how hot she is, as they try to find a feminist way to say "she has long legs, nice tits, and a hot ass"- that just ends up laugable. Then the main dude comes along, just as transparent and physically perfect. So right away I know that they aren't about writing a book, and barely about telling a story.
Many authors *don't* do this, but enough of the popular books I glance through start this way to make me shake my head in sadness.
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ceoalex316
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posted 07-25-2003 12:37 AM
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1984 - George Orwell
I read that in high school.
I'll check out Blood Meridian and Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut.
And what is Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter about?
If you like physics books send me a PM and I'll give you the names of about 4 good physics books. I promise they're good.
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posted 07-25-2003 01:55 AM
Honestly, how does reading a high school book such as Brave New World make any difference as opposed to reading something by Vonnegut. Do you plan on toting the book around so people can comment on how well-read you are, or something? I don't see how any book you read in college can be that much different than anything you read in high school, or better.
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posted 07-25-2003 02:32 AM
"Spares" by Michael Marshall Smith is a good piece of pulp [science] fiction.
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posted 07-25-2003 03:00 AM
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And what is Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter about?
Everything, mostly. Here 's the index. The book's introduction actually discusses the difficulty of figuring out what exactly the book's about. This is the clearest it gets: quote:
"In a word, GEB is a very personal attempt to say how it is that animate beings can come out of inanimate matter. What is a self, and how can a self come out of stuff that is as selfless as a stone or a puddle?"
There's a lot more to it than that, though.
Also, I think you misplaced your [/i].
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posted 07-25-2003 06:06 AM
I don't see how any book you read in college can be that much different than anything you read in high school, or better.
Well, in high school you have to read gay books. Some aren't but if you had to read Things Fall Apart, you'll pretty much know what I mean. I enjoyed Farenheit 451 and all, but 1984 was much better, and more frightening.
Brave New World ain't got nothin on Cat's Cradle.
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posted 07-25-2003 10:51 AM
Wow, John, do we have different tastes. Though I enjoyed Cat's Cradle, I like Brave New World better.
And about the whole high-school book versus college books versus reading for pleasure or whatever, I say its all a matter of timing. Like, I just read Cat's Cradle. Last weekend. And I didn't read it for any classes. Just for pleasure, because a good friend of mine highly recommends it. Everyone reads The Great Gatsby in high school, I read The Beautiful and Damned when I was in college, but it was because I like Fitzgerald, not because I had to, and I liked it better (I've recommended it in similar threads before).
But anyway, I'm going to recommend some more fluffy-type reading.
I like historical fiction and period stuff, so I recommend:The Great Train Robbery by Michael Crichton and Killer Angels by Michael Shaara.
For the fantasy genre, I second gruco's nomination for A Song of Ice and Fire series.
Damn... if I can think of more later, I'll post them. Right now I have to go to class.
PS. I really want to know how Harry Potter did on his O.W.L.s.
PPS. The name "James" has nothing to do with deer.
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posted 07-25-2003 11:22 AM
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Honestly, how does reading a high school book such as Brave New World make any difference as opposed to reading something by Vonnegut. Do you plan on toting the book around so people can comment on how well-read you are, or something? I don't see how any book you read in college can be that much different than anything you read in high school, or better.
A lot of the books I read in high school I also read my freshman year of college. (The Aeneid and Dante's Inferno, to name a couple.) Also, I didn't really read any bad books in high school, and a lot of them have turned out to be some my favorite books, like To Kill a Mockingbird, Huck Finn, and Catch-22. THe books I've read in college that I didn't read in high school are not as good as those.
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posted 07-25-2003 02:39 PM
Things Fall Apart was just about one of the worst books I ever read. We not only had to read it, but do like a huge research paper on how in reflected the colonization of Africa. That masterpiece ties with A Doll's House for the worst school curriculum? book ever.
Books I like: I like Crichton books, although I feel guilty about it since its so formulaic, but the man does tell a good story.
I really enjoy Steinbeck's shorter works like Tortilla Flat and Of Mice and Men , Grapes got a little to dreary for me though.
Don Delillo has some good stuff, White Noise is great.
About Vonnegut, I've read Timequake, Breakfast, and like Galapagos something, to me its just seems like this wacko who thinks hes smart cause he figured out that the worlds crazy. Interesting though
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ceoalex316
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posted 07-25-2003 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas:
Honestly, how does reading a high school book such as Brave New World make any difference as opposed to reading something by Vonnegut. Do you plan on toting the book around so people can comment on how well-read you are, or something? I don't see how any book you read in college can be that much different than anything you read in high school, or better.
It doesn't really compare much, I just want you to recommend a book that I haven't heard off.
I mean what can compare with Catcher in the Rye?
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posted 07-25-2003 03:23 PM
In that case, I'm a poetry faggot, and recommend Rime of the Ancient Mariner or anything by Shakespeare (granted, most people have read his most famous works, such as the tragedies, but whatever.)
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posted 07-25-2003 03:28 PM
...anything John Grisham writes is pretty good too. Newest one is King of Torts I think.
Im not into Steinbeck, too socialist for me, but I actually enjoyed A Doll's House and Things Fall Apart. And I had equally demanding assignments for both. And if any of you are Shakespeare goons, I recommend Hamlet.
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posted 07-25-2003 03:42 PM
anything by Shakespeare
Much ado about nothing - does exactly what it says on the tin.
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posted 07-25-2003 04:42 PM
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...anything John Grisham writes is pretty good too. Newest one is King of Torts I think.
I enjoy Grisham's stuff. I just finished The Summons. It moved a bit slower than his other ones, but it was a pretty good story. I really really really liked A Painted House, but I didn't mention it earlier because I wasn't sure if it was up chowlix's alley. It was a nice change from his old Southern Lawyer stuff. His other non-lawyer book, Skipping Christmas was interesting, too, but I think its one of those books you can't appreciate as much if you're from our younger generation. To us, Christmas is still kinda magical and fun, and hasn't become the Season of Unending Obligations like it is often for our parents. Our day will come, I suppose.
This year I also read About a Boy and High Fidelity by Nick Hornby. The stories are about guys with problems, so I think you guys might enjoy them. They're also very [british].
Ikuse mentioned Pratchett, and if he meant Terry Pratchett, I agree. I read my first Discworld novel, Reaper Man last week, and now I'm eager to devour more (hint, hint; my birthday is in 12 days; books make great gifts). It was fuckin' hysterical.
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posted 07-25-2003 06:26 PM
One of my friends recommended the best-selling-author James Patterson to me. Is he any good? The reason I ask is because I've read many "best-selling" books by "best-selling" authors and a good number of them were crap. I guess some people buy the books only cause he or she is a best-selling author, not cause the book is good.
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posted 07-25-2003 06:44 PM
Yeah. Terry Pratchett. I've read all of his books. Great stuff.
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posted 07-25-2003 09:03 PM
I third the Pratchett suggestion.
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posted 07-26-2003 03:58 AM
I've read all of Vonnegut's stuff, except for half of 2 books...but they're just collections of his Things Which Are Not Novels, which I don't have a very high opinion of.
His novels are great, and his rambling, pissed off, grumpy old man non-fiction rants about the world kick ass. Actually, they're both kinda similar.
He's another of those guys whose most famous/popular stuff I think is totally overrated, like Twain.
Cat's Cradle might be my favorite, but I also really liked Hocus Pocus, Bluebeard, and a few others.
He's the only guy who I've ever bought everything he's written. Well, other than Seuss. And, OK, I don't count those Theo LeSieg books.
If you're looking for Seuss recommendations, go to a bookstore and read I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew. The ending rocks.
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posted 07-26-2003 04:06 AM
Jennifer Government by Max Barry is a reasonable book. A decent ideology encrypted within a likeable, humorous novel.
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posted 07-26-2003 08:35 AM
If 1984's out...
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posted 07-26-2003 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Mentar the Malady Monkey:
Jennifer Government by Max Barry is a reasonable book. A decent ideology encrypted within a likeable, humorous novel.
I can't believe anyone bought that book. I thought nationstates was a good gimmick, but c'mon.
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posted 07-26-2003 05:25 PM
For some reason, my local library decided to only order Jennifer Government on CD. I checked it out and never finished. It just got too stupid. I did check out and read Barry's first novel, Syrup and it was also kinda stupid. Like, his novels start out as one thing and turn into something else. First it was about coming up with a great idea for a new soda, and then it turns into this completely non-believable story about making a movie. I don't know, really. I wasn't impressed. If you have absolutely nothing else to do some Sunday afternoon, then ready Syrup.
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posted 07-27-2003 02:59 AM
This is the way I decide which book to read, so that next time you ask a Pokemon board their opinion on books and they give you a shit load of books you can easily decide which to read.
First you go down the list of posters and eliminate does whose opinion you don't care about.
This leaves Ikuse, Twinkle, gruco, cfalcon, Wintermute, pkthunder and Mr. K.
Then we rate their opinions 1-5
Ikuse- 2
Twinkle- 1
gruco- 2
cfalcon- 4
Mr.K- 4
Pkthunder- 4
Wintermute- 5
Now we give the points to the books that they recommended and it comes out like this:
Cat's Cradle - 14
Stuff by Terry Pratchett- 7
A Song of Ice and Fire series- 6
Hocus Pocus - 6
Blood Meridian- 5
Killer Angels- 4
The Summons- 4
The Great Train Robbery- 4
I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew- 4
Brave New World - 4
American hero- 4
Timeline-2
A Confederacy of Dunces- 2
Snow Crash- 1
Anything with a 5+ rating you should check out.
So I will be checking Cat's Cradle, Stuff by Terry Pratchett, A Song of Ice and Fire series, Hocus Pocus, Blood Meridian.
Can someone just recommend a good book by Pratchett.
Also keep in mind that this was posted at 3:02 am.
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posted 07-27-2003 03:20 AM
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams. You cannot properly call yourself a geek until you've read this. The entire series, really. The most insane, demented, maniacal series I've read evar. Also, read The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Thom Wolfe. A good insight to the original acid movement of the sixties. Watership Down is good. At first it looks like some queer story about rabbits. But it's deeper than that. Hmm.. I really like Stephen King, overrated as it may seem. I especially would reccommend Carrie (short), Insomnia (long), and From a Buick 8 (new). Lord of the Flies is uber. Think of it as a deranged version of "Castaway". Anne Rice writes some good pr0n novels. Blackwood Farm, imo, is by far the greatest, but the Vampire Lestat and Pandora own too. And then there's the real pr0n under her pen name. But I'll keep this clean. Lovecraft is the definition of awesomeness, if you can get past the odd writing method. Finally, read anything by Orwell you can find. Look for Animal Farm. Hehe.
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posted 07-27-2003 03:28 AM
Instead of making a new topic, I'll ask my question here. I would like recommendations on good movies, however, all of the Azurians opinions suck (except two) so I'm only going to ask StarCaliber and Anthrax what their favorite movies are.
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posted 07-27-2003 02:31 PM
hello sir, see below
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posted 07-27-2003 04:15 PM
Look, if he only cared about two people's opinions, he would post on Uber (where Cal would at least be more likely to see it immediately) or just email them. Or he would find an appropriate topic. So he clearly posted it for the sole purpose of pissing everyone off, and possibly for kiss up purposes, though I can't imagine why he woudl care to do that. Not very nice or smart, but hey, whatever, it's the internet.
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posted 07-27-2003 04:40 PM
Yeah, hence my post.
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posted 07-27-2003 08:37 PM
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Snow Crash- 1
Why did you rate Snow Crash a 1? Two of my friends have read it and both said it was very good.
(Wait, just double checking here. Snow Crash is the one about the virus, right?)
[ 07-27-2003, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: Land und Leute ]
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theclaw: I can't rate myself!!
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ceoalex316
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posted 07-27-2003 09:08 PM
It was recommended by someone whose opinion value is a one.
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Thomas
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posted 07-27-2003 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by cfalcon:
Look, if he only cared about two people's opinions, he would post on Uber (where Cal would at least be more likely to see it immediately) or just email them. Or he would find an appropriate topic. So he clearly posted it for the sole purpose of pissing everyone off, and possibly for kiss up purposes, though I can't imagine why he woudl care to do that. Not very nice or smart, but hey, whatever, it's the internet.
My post was a parody of Alex's post. Apparently, a very poor parody. Also, Ikuse is an idiot, which is why he got the banhammer at Uber. He's a troll, therefore anything he posts is immediately ignored. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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cfalcon
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posted 07-27-2003 11:31 PM
My bad. I didn't follow the continuity there.
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Thomas
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posted 07-27-2003 11:41 PM
Yeah, I blame the Jews for that, sry.
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