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Dark_Herakurosu
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Discuss, as long as it doesn't include me and another man.
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Now they're pushing for legal marriage status... what is this world coming to?

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Well the more relevant point is the judge wrote, "The state cannot demean their existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime."

In otherwords, the state can't determine what two consenting adult can and can not do in private.

This may invalidate other sodomy laws that apply to heterosexual couples engaged in "deviant" behavior.

Although, it would do nothing about the CA law against "oral endangerment." [This Guy]

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So how come up until now buttsecks and oral secks has been legal in pornography? Seems like they would have had to follow the law too, right?
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"Sodomy", which has different meanings depending on who you ask, was only illegal in some states, including this one.

Also, it's one of those laws that was selectively enforced, and by that I mean "almost never" enforced.

When it was enforced, however, it was pretty much used as a way to harass fags, because no cop is going to bust a guy for getting a BJ from a chick and everyone loves lesbians. This wasn't done very often either, but the fact that it was still on the books was truly embarrassing.

Actually, I did hear about one instance of a lesbian who had already adopted a kid and when she tried to adopt another, they told her that they wouldn't give her a kid because she was a "sex offender". Legally speaking, this means fags would have to register when they moved into some areas, which is total and complete bullshit.

I was actually going to post something about this with a subject line like "Supreme Court Upholds Basic Human Right, Republicans Outraged".

But then I didn't.

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I find it amusing that anal sex in this case is exclusively referred to as sex amongst homosexuals -- no mention tof girls taking up the ass. I think headlines should read : "Gays and Double Penetrators Win One in Court"
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quote:
Originally posted by MK:
Now they're pushing for legal marriage status... what is this world coming to?

Do homosexuals scare you, MK? Do they create a tingly type of terror in your pants?

The world's morality won't take a nosedive if two men decide to get married.

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They're not gay, they're just European.
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quote:
Originally posted by MK:
Now they're pushing for legal marriage status... what is this world coming to?

Blargh, faggots are getting equal rights. Some nerve they have, eh?
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Now they're pushing for legal marriage status... what is this world coming to?

Equality, apparently.

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[PBJ Time!] [PBJ Time!]

(Edit: Sorry, I can only look at that for so long...)

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(2endEdit: lmao...)

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quote:
Originally posted by cfalcon:
Now they're pushing for legal marriage status... what is this world coming to?

Equality, apparently.

Ah, but gays already have the same marriage rights as everybody else...

Heterosexuals have the right to marry people of the opposite gender.
Homosexuals have the right to marry people of the opposite gender.

Homosexuals do not have the right to marry people of the same gender.
Heterosexuals do not have the right to marry people of the same gender.

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quote:
Originally posted by Slade_64:
(Edit: Sorry, I can only look at that for so long...)

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Come on; there's been worse on this board...

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quote:
Originally posted by Slade_64:
quote:
Originally posted by Slade_64:
(Edit: Sorry, I can only look at that for so long...)

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Come on; there's been worse on this board...
That ass looks fairly equivalent to all the asses I've had to see on my lovers. You dudes are lucky that you have to strain your neck to look around and see that shit on yourselves. I have no room to talk, though, cause my ass ain't that pretty either. But at least it's not hairy.
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I can't shave my ass by myself and I can't really bring myself to ask someone else to shave it. Though I would if the opportunity came up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Slade_64:
that

Well, it's no contest to the boob scan, that's a given.
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quote:
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...boob...

I have too much time...



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Pardon my ignorance, but who's breast IS that?
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RUDY MORALES, WHAT ARE YOU DOING??!

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAIRY FAT MAN NIPPLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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quote:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAIRY FAT MAN NIPPLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

b0rk

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haha he 'b0rked' the borders, which makes it funny

sry guys im pissed off right now and in a desperate attempt to cool off

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quote:
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RUDY MORALES...

Who the hell r u? [Trash Bear]

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That ass looks fairly equivalent to all the asses I've had to see on my lovers.

My ass is far superior to that ass.

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I think that gays act like faggots.
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Yea. It's queer.

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Well although its sad that this ruling went through, consider that there is probably just as much male/female sodomy as there is fag/fag sodomy. I mean Kennedy and O' Conner were just protecting their own interests. jk
It is sad though...

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Probably more.

Hmm... Interesting.

Remember, oral sex is considered "sodomy" by many.

So yea, tons more.

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Then you consider that some people consider kissing to be sex, and you realize that everybody should just shut the fuck up and go home out of it.
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I don't see what everyone's problems with guy/guy sex is. I know that I would never personally want to try it, but then, I also know that the average gay guy doesn't want to fuck a woman, ever. Same for hearing about it. I don't want to visualize gay sex or anything either, but likewise, gays don't want to visualize me or you (assuming you aren't gay) having sex with a woman. So, it's just a conflict of minority/majority. And I've definitely got to say that the idealism of minorities having the equal rights/oppertunities as the majorities is one of the few that I agree with. As it is, right now, there is still a feeling that if the minority hides their minority status, or if it seems like there are a lot less of the minorities than majorities, then it's perfectly fine for the majority to say "fuck you, you're different, wrong, and as such, inferior." It's probably just how I was raised by my parents, but I usually tend to put myself in their position, switching the majorities and minorities (i.e: for gays/straights, assuming that being straight was only one out of ten people, and everyone else was gay) and then you remember what shit that would be like.
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Then you consider that some people consider kissing to be sex, and you realize that everybody should just shut the fuck up and go home out of it.
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Some people hold that 1/10 of Americans have been abducted by aliens with the same fervor. Just because there are varied opinions doesn't mean that a correct opinion can't be sought.

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If gay sex upsets you why not ban sex of ugly people?

Which raises an interesting question. Would you rather watch two hot gay guys have sex or Janet Reno and George W. go at it?

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Well, since guys can't really be "hot" to me, then that's a nonquestion.

And Rolks, how do you know which opinion is correct? I mean, seriously, it's a lot more believeable that at least 10% of our population has had their minds/memories altered by Aliens. I'll bet even more people claim to have had contact with God. How do you know that God isn't just some Alien-induced idea? I mean, having an infinite being that's just "out there" somewhere makes about as much sense as having the Ellimist and Crayak fighting a war that ripped a hole in the universe and led to both of them having infinite power and deciding to play a "game" for control of the universe.

Hell, I'd be willing to believe that one wayward alien may have accidentally gotten off course, and seeing the valuable climate of the earth decided to be our divine ruler.

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quote:
Originally posted by ceoalex316:
If gay sex upsets you why not ban sex of ugly people?

Which raises an interesting question. Would you rather watch two hot gay guys have sex or Janet Reno and George W. go at it?

Janet Reno is pretty fucking sexy. I'd hit it like the bear.
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coeuikod974: If gay sex upsets you why not ban sex of ugly people?

Because it's not morally repugnant.

Icy's post seems even more bizarre on rereading it, so... uhh... I'll just smile and nod.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zerot:
Janet Reno is pretty fucking sexy. I'd hit it like the bear.

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Did anyone find it interesting how the liberal media launched a gay campaign as soon as the ruling happened? I mean every nightly news show I watched had it on every night. Chris Matthews, Buchanan and Press, Dan Rather, and others... Also, the print media such as Newsweek ran stuff like "Is Gay Marriage Next"(with strangely women who I do not believe were lesbos at all on the cover). Its interesting how they push their ideas.

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quote:
Originally posted by GenyaA310:
Did anyone find it interesting how the liberal media launched a gay campaign as soon as the ruling happened?

I believe you are hallucinating this 'liberal media'.
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Rolken: I'm having a hard time getting my head around this 'correct opinion' idea.

It is my correct/incorrect/undecided opinion that given the choice between

A) letting people be people, and
B) attempting to assert control over people for the sake of asserting control, nothing more,

more people choose B. Which, while interesting, is very sad.
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GenyaA310: ...liberal media...
...Chris Matthews, Buchanan and Press...

Heh.

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Oh, I interpreted your post as advising avoiding the issue.

It's not just for the sake of asserting control though. Doesn't that seem a little cynical?

I happen to not be opposed to gay marriage and all of that, but I am opposed to demonizing the opponent.

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I don't think the liberal media is a hallucination. It is overstated, and it isn't as liberal as it seemed to be in the past- over a decade of people claiming you aren't impartial makes you try harder, I'll bet. I've never thought that the media was in some big conspiracy- if you talk with journalism majors, they tend to be liberal. They probably give what they think is the real story, and they probably aren't as smart as they could be, so we end up with a leftist slant.

Also, Buchanan? The guy that's so far to the right that rigth wingers won't publicly admit to being on the same side as him? Fence around-Mexico-Buchanan? I wouldn't call him liberal.

And definitely not to his face.

And Rolken, morally repugnant is a relative (from a legal perpective) term.

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evidently Icy is an animorphs fan

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Wow, I didn't know if anyone else would catch that. It's true, you've caught me, I am an Animorphs fan.
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I don't think the liberal media is a hallucination. It is overstated, and it isn't as liberal as it seemed to be in the past- over a decade of people claiming you aren't impartial makes you try harder, I'll bet. I've never thought that the media was in some big conspiracy- if you talk with journalism majors, they tend to be liberal. They probably give what they think is the real story, and they probably aren't as smart as they could be, so we end up with a leftist slant.

Also, Buchanan? The guy that's so far to the right that rigth wingers won't publicly admit to being on the same side as him? Fence around-Mexico-Buchanan? I wouldn't call him liberal.

And definitely not to his face.

And Rolken, morally repugnant is a relative (from a legal perpective) term.

Yeah, I made a mistake about Buchanan. I didn't mean to include him in the rant about the liberal media. But the media is liberal, I mean Brian Williams worked for the Carter Administration. ABCs George Stephonapufeck or whatever it is was in the Clinton Administration. CBSs Dan Rather went to a Democratic fundraising party and contributed. Peter Jennings in his book comments about how wonderful the Canadian medical system is (btw this is socialized medicine). Its not overstating it. These guys are some of the head anchors for their networks.

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cfalcon: I don't think the liberal media is a hallucination.

That's because you're slightly to the right of Buchanan.

The "liberal media" is a total myth, in the way Republicans try to frame it.

The media is certainly anti-establishment. Their job is to question things. If Republicans have the power, the media will question the actions of the Republicans.

But if the media were truly "liberal" (and when people say this, they mean big D "Democratic"), then they wouldn't have raked Clinton over the coals. The media takes shots at whoever is there. It's their job.

I do agree that most journalists are "liberals", but that doesn't mean a thing. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is very conservative.

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Well, watch the words they use when they try to sound neutral. For instance, conservative tend to believe that the Israel/Palestine issue is pretty much about the Palestinians being a bunch of terrorists. The liberal view seems to have both more at fault, and sometimes takes the side of the Palestinians because they are the underdog.

In the past, articles would sometimes use euphemisms for terrorism when speaking of Palestinians freedom fighters and whatnot, whereas if they had been doing that shit to LA instead, they'd be terrorists. That doesn't happen so much anymore, but there was a coloring, and maybe not even a deliberate one, in their attempt to stay neutral.

Of course *you* don't think the press is liberal. If they say something liberal slanted, you wouldn't notice it unless you thought about it, because you tend to agree with it already.

Not that I believe all the claims about the liberal media. I've heard right wingers talk about the awful way the liberal media attacks those abortion protestors, who stand around outside shouting "whore" at the women who need abortions. Those horrible media, making demonizing those innocent protestors!

But I'm pretty sure there is a slant.

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It's pretty funny what's happening in the UK here at the moment with the BBC. The BBC, often accused of having a leftist bias, is in trouble for supposedly being unfair to the left-of-centre government.

The right-wing media have no idea which side they should take.

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