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EspeonNidoking
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posted 03-13-2003 11:59 AM
lol a card game.
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posted 03-13-2003 12:06 PM
comedy hallelujah option
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Land und Leute
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posted 03-13-2003 12:16 PM
Who's the "Pokemon Company" mentioned in the first paragraph? Is it the head-honchos over in Japan? Or Nintendo of America?
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posted 03-13-2003 12:59 PM
long list of other lifestyle games that will appeal to many of you like Magic: The Gathering
Lifestyle games?
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posted 03-13-2003 01:09 PM
The Pokémon Company is the company that oversees and publicizes Pokémon. It's owned jointly by Nintendo, Game Freak, Creatures, and 4Kids. Pokémon U.S.A. represents Pokémon in the US.
This doesn't mean the TCG is dead. It just means that they're just gonna find someone else besides Wizards to publish it after Wizards' contract is up.
EDIT: I predict someone will chime in and say "It's the same thing". =P
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posted 03-13-2003 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by cfalcon:
Lifestyle games?
This shouldn't be too hard for you to grasp, considering you know the lifestyle of my roommate.
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posted 03-13-2003 02:20 PM
Wow. I played this from base to neo something or other, and M:TG owned it from the start. I just couldn't find people to play M:TG with, and apprentice sucks horse nuts. Life continues.
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posted 03-13-2003 03:14 PM
tcg's piss me off
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posted 03-13-2003 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by cfalcon:
long list of other lifestyle games that will appeal to many of you like Magic: The Gathering
Lifestyle games?
I just know some fundamentalist is going to copy that article and say "Look! They called it a lifestyle game! Religion is a lifestyle, so these games must be Satanic!!" -_-
Well, you guys can still buy the foreign language cards.
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posted 03-13-2003 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by cfalcon:
long list of other lifestyle games that will appeal to many of you like Magic: The Gathering
Lifestyle games?
I just know some fundamentalist is going to copy that article and say "Look! They called it a lifestyle game! Religion is a lifestyle, so these games must be Satanic!!" -_-
Well, you guys can still buy the foreign language cards.
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Lark84
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posted 03-13-2003 04:28 PM
I consider M:TG to be a lifestyle game. It's not exactly what the jocks are playing in their spare time, is it? (As always, there are exceptions, but in general, it's played by geeks.)
People who like fantasy, magic and strategic games are pretty likely to play M:TG, or, if they haven't discovered it yet, start to play if someone introduces them to it. People who like fantasy, magic and strategic games also like other geeky stuff, like videogames, sci-fi and computer programming.
Of course I'm generalising, of course I'm making some assumptions, but I think that it's a fairly correct picture I'm painting.
Pokémon TCG was inferior to M:TG, in that you had to spend a lot of cash to build a deck which felt good. I'm saying "felt" good, because my M:TG deck sucks, but it feels good, it feels unique. My PTCG deck never felt good, despite the fact that I had started with a preconstruct (the preconstructs suck even more than the M:TG ones, which IMO are quite playable, at least against friends with moderate skills), then added something like 20 boosters, and three more preconstructs to my card pool.
The card prices are ridiculous -in Sweden, the new boosters with 9 cards (9! That's not a booster! Boosters have 15 cards or more!) cost five bucks. Yay. What a great price.
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posted 03-13-2003 06:05 PM
This is why everyone should play Yu-Gi-Oh. *insert Koffing here*
Also, expect Yu-Gi-Oh to die as soon as we reach the newest series that is out in Japan. But possibly sooner. *insert Koffing here*
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The Muffin King
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posted 03-13-2003 06:49 PM
Card games are just a way for companies to guzzle your money, as is shit like War Hammer. I'd rather save my money and buy more videogames.
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posted 03-13-2003 06:51 PM
I kinda liked the Pokémon TCG. But I still sold most of my cards. ^_^;;
I still have my 1st ed fossil Sandslash, though. I'll have that bugger put under glass one of these days.
~Uiru
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posted 03-13-2003 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Land und Leute:
This is why everyone should play Yu-Gi-Oh. *insert Koffing here*
Also, expect Yu-Gi-Oh to die as soon as we reach the newest series that is out in Japan. But possibly sooner. *insert Koffing here*
THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD.
TCGs that have a whole cartoon made just to boost sales piss me off. People that waste their money on them piss me off too. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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posted 03-13-2003 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Clicky Pensi:
apprentice sucks horse nuts.
Please kill yourself in a gruesome fashion that includes rusty barbed wire. Take pictures as well, so that we can all laugh at you being so hardcore.
Apprentice is God's Gift to humanity, as programmed by God Himself. (The bugs were put there by Satan.)
Oh, and w00t finally. Took it long enough.
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posted 03-13-2003 07:18 PM
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posted 03-13-2003 08:52 PM
Yeah, that thing.
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posted 03-13-2003 09:03 PM
Gәd.
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posted 03-13-2003 10:43 PM
I went to a discount toy store today... Harry Potter TCG picked a bad time to attempt to come mainstream. The Pokémon cards were still a couple of bucks, Harry Potter... 99 cents!
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posted 03-13-2003 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ikuse:
TCGs that have a whole cartoon made just to boost sales piss me off. People that waste their money on them piss me off too.
Clearly, you did not notice my uses of "Koffing." For not detecting this, you must open your anus and sit on a smoke stack.
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posted 03-13-2003 11:30 PM
my apologies sir!
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posted 03-14-2003 12:24 AM
the anime came first i think i'm not sure either ways die yugioh is cool sorry for lack of punctuation
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posted 03-14-2003 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by Ikuse:
quote:
Originally posted by Land und Leute:
This is why everyone should play Yu-Gi-Oh. *insert Koffing here*
Also, expect Yu-Gi-Oh to die as soon as we reach the newest series that is out in Japan. But possibly sooner. *insert Koffing here*
THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD.
TCGs that have a whole cartoon made just to boost sales piss me off. People that waste their money on them piss me off too.
The Yu Gi Oh manga came out before the TCG. So it's more like a TCG to boost the sales of the manga, which boosts the sales of the TCG, which boosts the sales of the manga. It's like a self-perpetuating marketing machine.
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Lark84
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posted 03-14-2003 12:32 PM
I saw what must have been the lamest attempt a Pokémon ripoff: "Bokaido blade" or something like that.
From the little I saw, it appears that the show is aobut kids/teenagers, compteing against each other with "Bokaido blades".
Bokaido blades is nothing more than a gyro, you spin it, and unleash it against your opponent. Knock his blade over, you win. That is one of the lamest concepts ever to base an anime on. They had some kind of psychic control over them, too, so the blades can evade each other etc. I bet you can buy "official Bokaido blade" gyros in toy stores too.
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posted 03-14-2003 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Lark84:
I saw what must have been the lamest attempt a Pokémon ripoff: "Bokaido blade" or something like that.
From the little I saw, it appears that the show is aobut kids/teenagers, compteing against each other with "Bokaido blades".
Bokaido blades is nothing more than a gyro, you spin it, and unleash it against your opponent. Knock his blade over, you win. That is one of the lamest concepts ever to base an anime on. They had some kind of psychic control over them, too, so the blades can evade each other etc. I bet you can buy "official Bokaido blade" gyros in toy stores too.
They are called Beyblades in North America, and this particular fad is 100x scarier than Pokemon was.
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posted 03-14-2003 03:16 PM
Any game in which 68% of the cards involve coin flips DESERVES to die.
My current card collection in this game amounts to eleven: five e-Reader promos, plus Team Wiggly.
At least the GB adaptation of the card game was a bit better, if only due to the four comes-into-play creatures.
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posted 03-15-2003 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by Jolt135:
Any game in which 68% of the cards involve coin flips DESERVES to die.
My current card collection in this game amounts to eleven: five e-Reader promos, plus Team Wiggly.
I'm beating you in that respect: I've got the Moltres card for going to the 2nd movie, and that's it.
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posted 03-15-2003 07:36 AM
Hmm. Now that they're gonna stop being printed by WOTC, I wonder how much my promo entei and promo Meowth can go for (they're still unwrapped).
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posted 03-15-2003 12:57 PM
TCG are nothing compared to Pogs...
Pogs are the shiznit!
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posted 03-15-2003 01:26 PM
I have a bunch of cards from the Japanese Gym 2 Series, including the infamous "swastika" card, and also some promos (unwrapped Ancient Mews, Entei, etc.) and other random cards from the American series. I'm glad I wasted my time and money.
Now I'm wasting my time and money on Yu-Gi-Oh! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
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posted 03-15-2003 02:06 PM
I have a complete set of the four promos for Pokemon: The First Movie. Mint conditiony, too.
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posted 03-15-2003 08:18 PM
The only reason I like the cards are for the art. If they made an art book of just the art on the cards, I'd never have touched them. The only cards I own are pretty much promos from the movies, from Nintendo Power, and from that GBC game based on the TCG. I also delved into getting a bunch of the Team Rocket ones, only 'cause I like Team Rocket. I never did get the ones I wanted, i.e. the trainer cards with pics of TR members on them. I also have this big oversized promo I got for participating in Pokémon 2000. Either way, cards are fucking expensive. I'm glad they're killing it.
Or, if they're not killing it but rather just the deal with Wizards, I'm sure Nintendo will do just fine without them. Notice that there's no Wizards on any of the Animal Crossing cards or any other e-Cards. And don't forget, Nintendo was a playing card company when they first started out over a century ago. I'm surprised they didn't make their own cards from the outset of the Pokémon craze.
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posted 03-15-2003 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by cfalcon:
Lifestyle games?
You do realize that the definition of a "lifestyle game" is one that you can play basically your whole life. Essentially, this means that it is a sport/game which requires very little physical activity. Golf is most likely the most widely known lifestyle game.
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posted 03-16-2003 02:17 AM
Actually, I didn't know that, thanks.
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posted 03-16-2003 01:44 PM
Hmm. Now that they're gonna stop being printed by WOTC, I wonder how much my promo entei and promo Meowth can go for (they're still unwrapped).
I'm betting that in a year, little to nothing.
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posted 03-16-2003 01:47 PM
Ah, but in a couple decades when the nostalgia truck comes driving by for these future twenty- or thirtysomethings, they'll be worth a mine full o' gold! Goodness knows they'll be spending mucho dinero on reclaiming their childhoods just as many of us are now doing on old TransFormers and He-Man figures.
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Lark84
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posted 03-16-2003 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ferquin:
Ah, but in a couple decades when the nostalgia truck comes driving by for these future twenty- or thirtysomethings, they'll be worth a mine full o' gold!
Exactly. I was thinking this too. It's like my M:TG cards: they're all worthless now (except the rares) but when I'm 60, people are gonna dig 'em and happily fork up $5 for a Taunting Elf with damaged corners.
Trust me, there's a second hand market for *everything*. The prices will drop at first (in five years, no one will care about your holo Suicune) but then rise more and more.
Collectors are crazy.
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posted 03-16-2003 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Lark84:
It's like my M:TG cards: they're all worthless now (except the rares) but when I'm 60, people are gonna dig 'em and happily fork up $5 for a Taunting Elf with damaged corners.
I still maintain that Taunting Elf is terrible outside of casual play. It works well in Mind Magic, though.
Depending on your cards, they're worth something. Which sets do you have stuff from? You'd be amazed at the prices that some commons go for up here. I can get $2.00 per Wild Mongrel and about 70c per Counterspell. Unfortunately, that means I run out of them quickly. I'm down to 20 Mongrels and they're all in decks, cry me a river. Back in its heyday, Fact or Fiction was going for $7 downtown.
I have that Ancient Mew card from the first movie, is it worth anything? Aside from that, the death of the PKMN TCG is no big loss to me. If anything, it's an incredible shot in the arm for Magic.
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Lark84
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posted 03-16-2003 03:52 PM
I said "When I'm 60", not "if I were to sell them today" ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
How many drafts have you participated in, seeing as you have 20 Wild Mongrels and I have 0... We rarely get them in drafts at all. Of course, that might be because we almost never draft in one series only, we usually have to mix (due to lack of sufficient amount of boosters to supply us all with three packs each of the same edition), like 1 Torment, 1 7th, 1 Odyssey etc.
I have the most cards from Onslaught and Legions, a lot (200 or so cards) of green Onslaught, about 150 blue Legions, about 50-100 of the other editions, more mixed there (this is all type 2).
I also have 5-600 something non-type 2 cards, ranging from something like 3rd edition to Mirage, then Invasion to Apocalypse. I have some n00b cards. I bought them from a friend's brother, but I got ripped off because it's mostly single copies of a card which is pretty useless.
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posted 03-16-2003 04:16 PM
If Taunting Elf is worth $5 in the future, it'll be because $5 won't by you a loaf of bread, or possibly not even a slice. Taunting Elf is a common in at least two sets, and plenty were made (they might even be in print, I think they're in the latest huzamazoo). So there's no real chance that all Magic cards will become super valuable, unless *everybody* is into Magic the future- an unlikely scenario. Whether the base grows or shrinks over the next 30 years, it probably won't be by enough to make Taunting Elf really valuable. He's just taunting elf. In the past, cards were very valuable because:
1- They didn't print enough of them.
2- People didn't think their value would increase, so some got thrown away (only applicable at the start).
3- People thought bad cards were good (Shivan Dragon) and good cards were bad (Moxes, Black Lotus), so some of them got pitched as a "shitty waste of a rare".
4- Wizards had three kinds of cards, generally: really low power (Giant Spider, Grizzly Bears), moderate power (Wrath of God, White Knight), and high power. They stopped making the high power type (power 9, etc.), and only accidentally add to that. Even when they do put a card in that gets restricted, it still isn't as big of a deal as the older ones: Fact or Fiction is really good, but not every deck that runs blue mana wants it, unlike Ancestral Recall or Time Walk.
So no, your Taunting Elf won't be worth shit.
Mick, if you can sell Mongrels for two bucks apiece, you should exploit that. I mean, you're a Jew, right? blackborder.com , order about 20 of them, then you just need to interest five stupid kids in paying you 2.00 apiece for a nice little profit. It isn't much money, but if you already find yourself selling them, it won't hurt to fill out the order form, right? I mean, check the stores they link to, and you can get a bunch for around 50˘.
Two dolla commons. Sheesh.
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posted 03-16-2003 04:48 PM
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So no, your Taunting Elf won't be worth shit.
We all know that the mighty Defiant Elf will be much much more.
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posted 03-16-2003 05:50 PM
I've done way too many Odyssey drafts to count, and I've opened more Odyssey than is healthy for my bank account. I still do, I love that set. Limited was at its best with Ody/Tor/Jud, IMHO. I had more, but I traded in a whole bunch for worthless cardboard. I get dumber each day.
I have about 7 boxes of 800 cards, three 600 boxes of decks, one 600 box of decent stuff for trading, a 2" trade binder, a 300 box of foils, 9 or 10 of the Worlds decks, and then some. This was amassed all within two years.
lol@cfalcon lol im a jew
$2 in Canuck funds. It would cost me just as much to mass order Mongrels in Yanks and get them delivered if not more, and I wouldn't make any profit. Most websites sell Mongrels at $1 in Yank funds, and that would translate to loss of profit unless I mass buy like 100 or more mongrels. Even then, there's no guarantee that the store owner would buy them. Besides, knowing him, it would cost me at least 12 mongrels to get a bloody fetchland. (Anyone with extra Deltas should contact me.)
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Lark84
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posted 03-17-2003 11:54 AM
cfalcon is mean why teh h8 ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Seriously, ok, maybe Taunting Elf won't be worth anything, but I think it will. I'm making three assumptions:
1. WoTC will stop printing it, in fact, they will have stopped with M:TG entirely. OK, so this seems unlikely, but I think not. Nothing lasts forever.
2. People will throw away all their cards as they stop playing, thinking they're useless, *especially* if it's a card like Taunting Elf, a common which isn't that good in tournament play anyway. (Exactly what happened with the older cards that are valuable today, like cfalcon described. And M:TG's only been around for ten years, mind you!) Thus, the supply of Taunting Elves will be quite limited.
3. There will always be these obsessed collectors willing to fork up a ridiculous amount of cash for something that will make their collection complete. Those are the people I'm aiming at.
Then again, I may be wrong and instead wishing that I hadn't thrown my GBC in the trash when I got my GBA3 SP DX, while I watch people rent forklifts to drive their huge stacks of Taunting Elves to the recycling station.
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posted 03-22-2003 10:57 PM
Lark, by your assumptions, I should start stockpiling Fugitive Wizards because they're gonna skyrocket in value one of these days.
Spellfire ain't gettin' any deader, dude.
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tcg's piss me off
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