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Jolt135
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There is a way after all.

[ 05-13-2003, 03:35 PM: Message edited by: Jolt135 ]

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I can also get unlimited rare candies and vitamins "legally" in my red version. If it works, t's a glitch and as such Nintendo isn't gonna consider it offical/legal. If it does work it's pretty amazing that anyone actually discovered it. Must have been done intentionally by a programmer. neat though.
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Nifty.

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Interesting, if it works. Any one know why it's those trainers that do it? Do they have hex codes of 15 (Mew's number) or something?

Also, why can't people figure out that they shouldn't post gameplay topics in the team rating forums??!!11oneone [Mad]

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How, exactly, does one just up and discover that?

Even if it was a flukish mistake, you'd have to fluke into skipping out of the Gambler attack (tonight on Fox: When Gamblers Attack! Etc), fluke into not having battled the Slowpoke kid BUT going there immediately after to battle him, and then fluke into not doing anything before entering a guardhouse. THEN, after fluking into all three of these indicents, you'd have to then be able to remember what you did and replicate it perfectly. So the short answer is; it'd be awesome if it worked, but I doubt it. And I've got better things to do than restart my Red game right now.
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Here's the fun part: Mew obtained this way is NOT necessarily (5) 10/1/12/5. So just like everything else, we now have a claim of possibility for 403-and-298s Mew.

After putting some thought into why quick timing on the Start button magically stacks a trigger that says "When a battle ends, pull a 7 and a 21 out of nowhere and assign them to two specific spots.", no evidence of anything could be found.

It's looking more and more like this is intentional. After all, who's going to stumble into it on their own time?

And considering how long the "no-Mew" mindset lasted, I'd say they did a pretty good job covering it up.

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Any word on where the original source of this trick? If it was intentional, then someday at Gamefreak may have leaked it...

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So, has anyone, um, *trustworthy* confirmed this yet? [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Coxy:
So, has anyone, um, *trustworthy* confirmed this yet? [Wink]

Well, I dusted off my old Red game, backed it up on my Mega Memory card, and decided to have at it. However, since I had berries to water in my Ruby version, I took several shortcuts that I would never even consider normally:

1. Dumped a lemonade and a Master Ball from my Blue version to Red version via Stadium 2.
2. Taught Pidgey and Beedrill how to Fly and Cut, respectively...also via Stadium 2.
3. (And I do not usually do this...) Used my Gameshark to get all 8 badges and inputted the "instant KO" code.

(Yes, I cheated to get something legitimate. It's paradoxical, but I have no intention of keeping anything from that game except the Mew. It'll be dumped into Stadium 2's box, and then I'll have my old Red game put back on.)

I can assure you that Mew can be obtained as mentioned by Jolt135, and as he's stated, the genes are random. As to my veracity...well, look up my past posts, and you'll find that I keep the BS to a minimum.

BTW, has anybody brought this to the attention of Meowth346?

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Does it work with other trainers? (ex) Could you possibly get Magmar in Red version by fighting a certain trainer?
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That's what we're exploring right now.

Remember, RBY has 333 trainer battles, so numbering each one in one byte is impossible...but then again, Level byte isn't next to Species either (which explains how the Pokemon caught this way can always be L7 if this is the case).

Based on the location of the Mew trainer, I'd have to say that each one received a number in the order they were created (though Nugget Bridge's 5 would have to come in much later in order for #21 to be where it is).

If the 21st Trainer is on route 25, and Magmar is Pokemon #51, something tells me that's going to be inside a building.

[ 04-22-2003, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Jolt135 ]

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It seems kind of pointless if they can't be traded to rusa though.
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Incredible. After years of thinking it would never happening I have a (semi)-legitement Mew. After reading up on the stuff at gamefaqs, however, I think there are still some areas open for research.

Going from Lavender (or Saffron) to Route 8 seems somewhat arbitrary. I am curious as to what would happen if you went perhaps, north from Pallet (or any other place where you go from a town to a route, for that matter). I do not really have the means or time to test this, but perhaps it would have an interesting result. I have a feeling that the transition from town to route is responsible for the level, but this is nothing more than idle speculation.

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Well, colour me a Mewtwo user, it works! (On all three versions of the ROM, anyway.)

I tried a couple different variations on where I went after beating the Slowpoke trainer. If I flew to Pallet Town and went north, it didn't work. However, when I flew to Celadon and went into the narrow passage going west (nothing happened) then went back east through Celadon and into the underground passage to Lavender, Mew appeared when I exited the building. (The screen flashed while I was "standing on the door" outside, then suddenly switched back to inside the building. After the battle, I was still inside.)

Edit: I tried a couple other places, but none of them worked. I looks like it must be triggered by entering Route 8 (between Saffron and Lavender).

[ 04-22-2003, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: White Cat ]

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quote:
Originally posted by DocMui:
However, since I had berries to water in my Ruby version, I took several shortcuts that I would never even consider normally:

1. Dumped a lemonade and a Master Ball from my Blue version to Red version via Stadium 2.
2. Taught Pidgey and Beedrill how to Fly and Cut, respectively...also via Stadium 2.
3. (And I do not usually do this...) Used my Gameshark to get all 8 badges and inputted the "instant KO" code.

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That's the way I got my 1 hour personal best completion time for R/B. [Wink]

Edit: 0. Restart in the Stadium emulator at 4x real speed.
1. Trade over Pokés at levels which you can still handle but kick ass over every trainer battle.
2. Trade over Pokés with all the HM moves.
3. Trade over 4 Master Balls and a drink.
3. Skip the Silph Scope quest with the PokéDoll trick in Lavender Tower.
4. Do every required building/cave the quickest way possible (haven't we all memorised the puzzles by now? [Big Grin] )
5. Trade over all 151 wia Stadium 1's Box Trade system.

Ah, what a rort.

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Holy Shit, it does work.

::PROOF::

My actual Game Boy Advance with a Yellow cartridge without a Shark in sight. [Eek!]

Holy Shit!!!!

[ 04-23-2003, 03:57 AM: Message edited by: DrFuko ]

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It'd bad form when your 'proof' A) is on Yahoo and B) doesn't work. [Wink]
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Somebody should tell Mr. K to update the Pokemon Myths section of the Compendium. AH should at least be complete on the RBY games.
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Just so this doesn't get lost to the GameFAQs purge:

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From: TheScythe | Posted: 4/19/2003 4:23:02 PM | Message Detail
If you don't believe me, try it yourself.
I predict about 99% of the replys to this post will be people who won't even try this, and will just poo-poo it the second they see it. If you bother even TRYING this code, you might actually see that this works. And, please, if your going to start and hate me, only hate me if the code didn't work for you. It should work. No mindless babbling about how I'm a liar. Because I'm not. About this anyway.

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-Make sure you haven't battled the Youngster with a Level 17 Slowpoke, on the way to Bill's house. If you have, the code won't work.

-Also make sure you haven't battled the Gambler with two Poliwags and a Poliwhirl. He is facing the Underground Path toward Celadon city...on Route 8. If you have, the code won't work either.

-You need Fly. (Aka HM02)

-Get some Ultra Balls, and anything else you would use to catch a Level 7 Mew, that only knows Pound.

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Go to the Gambler I talked about before. Save AT the door he is facing. Don't make him battle you. SAVE HERE, this is tricky. Now, step one step towards him, and PRESS START. Really fast. If you did it right, it will pop up, but he won't battle you. (This shouldn't work for any other trainer) Now Fly to Cerulean City.
[If you've done this right, after you use Fly, he will get the "!" over his head]

Note: You cannot use START, A, or B.

Note: Do NOT save anywhere after this. First of all, you can't save when your buttons don't work. But second, when they work again, saving will ruin the Mew code, and not allow you to get the Mew. Ever. Keep your saved file from before you battled the Gambler.

[If you've done this right, you can't press Start]
Walk (you can't use start) to the Youngster, and when you battle him, make sure he WALKS TO YOU. Don't go directly in front of him. Beat him, and (now your buttons work) Fly to Lavender Town (Or Saffron City).

[If you've done this right, the Start menu WILL pop up when it should]
Now if you went to Lavender, go to the left of town, and start to enter that narrow passageway. If you went to Saffron, go right, to where the guard lets you past if you give him a drink. Either way, the Start menu will pop up. Do NOT save here. Press B. Mew will appear. This is your ONLY chance. (unless you go to your save file before the Gambler) Ta-Da...its a Mew.

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Hmmmm, where can I upload my proof?

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Maybe this would work

Take 2

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Whatever the fuck you did to your GBA, fix it.

There's just no pleasing me today. [Big Grin]
~Uiru

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So...presented with this evidence of a legit Mew in RBY, would this open up a whole new scavenger hunt through GSC for a legit Celebi? I would suspect that there is one in there SOMEWHERE, maybe even tougher to find than Mew.

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So, was this done intentionally by programmers? Seems too complex to be a bug discovered by someone on accident, especially when it works for Red and Blue (the glitch whores) and YELLOW!

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I doubt it's intentional, considering how fighting different trainers after flying from the gambler results in different Pokemon appearing (and some even result in text appearing before the battle, like a trainer battle).

My assumption (with no real hard proof), is the game "remembers" a battle is supposed to take place on route 8 (as this battle was "interrupted" before by flying from the gambler). Something about the slowpoke trainer (whether that is trainer type, trainer location, leading pokemon, etc., remains unknown, at least to me) sets the data for this battle to be the same data that would be responsible for battling a wild level 7 Mew. So upon entry to route 8, the start menue pops up (the game "remembers" this too, it seems) and the battle commences.

I don't really understand how this works on a technically level (and it is simply nothing more than idle speculation) and in a way, the programming of it seems overly complex. Nevertheless, it seems to have some (functional) logic to it, but it doesn't answer the big question of how the hell anyone discovered this.

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I put together a web page that explains the trick in great detail, for the sake of the ultra-newbies out there. [Smile] It's on my P-Files site.

I also did some testing of fighting the Fishermen on Route 12 instead of the Youngster to see what Pokemon I got instead of Mew. (The order of Fishermen is how you encounter them when heading south from Lavender).

1st Fisherman (Goldeen/Poliwag/Goldeen; level 22): Tangela appears
2nd Fisherman (Tentacool/Goldeen; level 24): Missingno appears
3rd Fisherman (Goldeen; level 27): Pidgey appears
4th Fisherman (Poliwag/Shellder/Goldeen/Horsea; level 21): Slowpoke appears

Also note that seeing Missingno resulted in an (AFAIK) endless series of "Missingno is trying to learn" messages.

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Some more notes (all RAM locations are for the Yellow version)...

After your battle with the Slowpoke trainer, Mew's hex value (15h) is copied into three RAM locations: CD2D, CFFC, and D8CE. I experimented with other trainers to verify this, but for some reason the D8CE location doesn't always get the value, and I can't figure out why, especially since it's the only one of the three that's on "page 1" of the RAM (the other two are on "page 0", I think).

...

Okay, right before I was about to post this, I decided to experiment a bit more. By editing the RAM right before re-entering Route 8, I confirmed that CD2D is the byte that controls which Pokemon you'll see. When you enter Route 8, whatever value is in CD2D is copied into CFD7 (the byte that normally controls wild Pokemon encounters.

If anyone's curious, the reason you can't save your game in the middle of the procedure is that the section of RAM that includes CD2D (all of page 0?) isn't saved, and so will be reset to 00 when you choose Continue.

I also found that if you fight some wild Pokemon after beating the Slowpoke trainer, it changes which Pokemon you'll find on Route 8. I didn't spend any time figuring out how it does this, though.

Based on this, it looks like the Pokemon you encounter comes from the trainer's unique hex ID, not what Pokemon they have or what level they're at. Since there number of trainers in the game is 333 (14D in hex), this would mean there should be two trainers (0015 and 0115 in hex) that will result in a Mew. Can anyone confirm that the Slowpoke trainer is either 0015 or 0115, and/or know who the other one is?

BTW, it turns out that someone posted this trick on jesseworld.com (bottom of page) way back in May 2002, but no one believed him.

On another note, I wanted to see if it's possible to trigger the sequence with trainers other than the Route 8 Gambler. It is. You can Fly away from the second Fisherman you meet while heading south from Lavender on Route 12, then beat the Slowpoke trainer, and Mew will appear when you re-enter Route 12. There are almost certainly other trainers who can do this, too.

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Does the Mew discovery have any negative effect on the game like missingno did?
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quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
Can anyone confirm that the Slowpoke trainer is either 0015 or 0115, and/or know who the other one is?

It looks like the 6th trainer to me, going by Japanese Yellow version. That's assuming that the trainers at the top of my list aren't actually random data that looks like trainers, in which case it would be lower. Either way, it's not the 21st Trainer in the game's data.

--Meowth346

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quote:
Originally posted by Turbo X:
So...presented with this evidence of a legit Mew in RBY, would this open up a whole new scavenger hunt through GSC for a legit Celebi? I would suspect that there is one in there SOMEWHERE, maybe even tougher to find than Mew.

Remember, there is a legit Celebi in Crystal, with no way to aquire the means to make it appear.(GS Ball) The Event is 100% translated in the US version.
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Eureka!

Further testing proved that it's not any kind of trainer ID number. I monitored the value of CD2D throughout the procedure, and recorded how it changed:

Standing in front of door -> 0F
Gambler sees me as I fly away -> D9
Youngster sees me -> C9
Slowpoke comes out -> 15 (Mew's number)

When I tried fighting the northernmost Fisherman on Route 12 (who triggers a Tangela instead of Mew), here's what happened:

Standing in front of door -> 0F
Gambler sees me as I fly away -> D9
Fisherman sees me -> D6
Goldeen comes out -> 1E (Tangela's number)
Poliwag comes out -> 1A
Goldeen comes out -> 1E (Tangela's number)

Each Pokemon caused a different string of RAM values, starting from CD22:

Youngster's Slowpoke: 8E 11 00 3C 00 1E 00 1D 00 0C 00 15
Fisherman's Goldeen: 8E 16 00 37 00 26 00 22 00 24 00 1E
Fisherman's Poliwag: 8E 16 00 35 00 1E 00 1A 00 30 00 1A

I checked these numbers against the Pokemon's known attacks, but didn't find any matches. Then I looked at base stats. Still nothing. Then I tried the actual stats...

Possible stats for a wild level 17 Slowpoke:
HP: 57-62
Attack: 27-32
Defense: 27-32
Speed: 10-15
Special: 18-23

Youngster's Slowpoke data converted to decimal:
60
30
29
12
21

It's a match!

The Pokemon that you'll fight is the second byte of the last enemy Pokemon's Special stat.

This means that another trainer could trigger Mew if their last Pokemon (or a wild Pokemon) has a Special of either 21, 277, 533, or 789. (I don't think the last three are possible on enemy Pokemon without Growth or Amnesia.)

Incidentally, this also shows that the genes of enemy trainer Pokemon are fixed. In the case of the Youngster's Slowpoke, its Special gene is either 8 or 9.

You're welcome. [Wink]

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posted 04-30-2003 07:05 PM      Profile for White Cat   Author's Homepage   Email White Cat      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Big news! This trick can be used to easily get any Pokemon in the game, without having to search for trainers with the right Special stat on their last Pokemon.

1. Get a Pokemon with the right Special stat (21 for Mew, 131 for Mewtwo, etc).
2. Fly away from the Gambler.
3. Fight any trainer that will walk to you.
4. Find a wild Ditto and let it Transform into the Pokemon with the proper Special. (This will copy your Pokemon's Special stat into CD2D.)
5. Beat the Ditto (or just run away) and fly to Lavender.
6. Go west into Route 8, and the Pokemon that matches the Special you used will appear.

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I understand how hex works and stuff... but why does 21 = Mew and 131 = Mewtwo?

Thanks...

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posted 04-30-2003 08:12 PM      Profile for White Cat   Author's Homepage   Email White Cat      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
21 decimal = 15 hex
131 decimal = 83 hex

15 is Mew's number, and 83 is Mewtwo's. In RBY, the hex numbers are all jumbled up (01 is Rhydon, 02 is Kangaskhan, etc). Unused numbers, like FE and FF, result in MissingNo. In GSC (and most of RS), they're in logical order (01 is Bulbasaur, 02 is Ivysaur, etc).

Look at a list of GameShark codes to see hex numbers for all the Pokemon.

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Wow, that's all i got to say. thanks a lot you guys for doing all of the research. another way to catch mew, it worked for my friend and i know he doesn't have a gameshark (its trapped in his stadium 1, he lost the connector) but i haven't confirmed it yet:
beat everything up to the S.S. Ann but don't board it. trade a pokemon with CUT to your yellow (i don't think it works for RB) and go to the safari zone for surf. come back to the S.S. Ann but don't get on the boat. surf to the land on the right and, voila, MEW. p.s. you might have to get all 150 first.) don't spend a ton of time doing this because i am not sure it works, but if someone could confirm it that would be great. my other friend said he got it just by catching all 150, but he must have done something in a specific order by accident to get it, because i think almost everyone on this site has gotten all of them.

While i'm at it, a sad story: i had 146 pokemon and i got out of pokemon for a long time. a few weeks ago i decided to finally beat it. i left my gameboy on the table and i had my neighbor over, his annoying little brother came too (uh oh, bad news). his little brother kept pestering me to let him play my game boy. after a while i gave in. after a little while he came over to me and told me that it wasn't working. i tried it out and at the opening screen it just paused and the NINTENDO letters were all fuzzy. this happens sometimes when there is dust in it. i blew on it and it started working. at the screen that asks you if you would like to continue your game it said that the memory had been erased! my other friend told me he had heard a loud THUNK when he was playing the game and he said he had seen him smack it hard. enough said. that night i decided to play my yellow because my blue was in gameboy heaven, as i was playing the screen went blank and but the sound was still going and the light was still on. i turned it off and turned it on again. that memory was erased too. i was using the same batteries and they had been left out in the cold car over night. i came to the conclusion that it was either the batteries leaking acid or my friend's little brother, either way i had a bad day.

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quote:
Originally posted by :DRAGON-MASTER::
Wow, that's all i got to say. thanks a lot you guys for doing all of the research. another way to catch mew, it worked for my friend and i know he doesn't have a gameshark (its trapped in his stadium 1, he lost the connector) but i haven't confirmed it yet:
beat everything up to the S.S. Ann but don't board it. trade a pokemon with CUT to your yellow (i don't think it works for RB) and go to the safari zone for surf. come back to the S.S. Ann but don't get on the boat. surf to the land on the right and, voila, MEW. p.s. you might have to get all 150 first.) don't spend a ton of time doing this because i am not sure it works, but if someone could confirm it that would be great. my other friend said he got it just by catching all 150, but he must have done something in a specific order by accident to get it, because i think almost everyone on this site has gotten all of them.


If that had actually worked (it sounds familiar [Roll Eyes] ) I doubt this discovery would have made the splash it did. You forgot the bit about using Strength and the truck!

Anyone have a screenshot of this truck? I've never seen it on Red, Blue, or Yellow...

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The truck is there, but there's nothing you can do with it, it's for pure decoration only...

As for the method about surfing mentioned by :DRAGON-MASTER: doesn't work. The hexadecimal value that gets passed from your area/trainer name cannot yield the necessary value to produce a Mew...

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