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Mr. K
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posted 04-02-2002 11:41 AM
I've been playing SMRPG for a while now, and while it's not as good as Paper Mario and has far too many hippity-hop gags for my taste, it's still a fairly cool game.
One thing I really noticed, tho, is how similar it is to Pokemon in many ways. I guess Pokemon seemed fairly newish to me, because I had been out of the game console loop for so long, but it was interesting to see all the shared concepts:
- Attack/Defense and Special Attack/Special Defense.
- Turn-based battle.
- Things like 'lectric attacks being strong vs. water creatures.
- Poison, Paralysis, stat boosters, etc.
- The Exp. boosting item.
- Mostly linear storyline with towns and patches with monsters in them in between.
- Multiple party members with various specialties who are useful in different situations.
I'm sure I'm missing a few more obvious ones, but you get the point.
It's interesting to see just how much they recycled into Pokemon. Not that both aren't still cool games on their own, but I was surprised by how similar they are.
My main complaint with SMRPG so far is that it's awfully easy. They could have spiced it up a little more. I'm constantly full of items I never need to use.
Also, while it makes things easier, it kinda sucks that the whole party gains experience, whether or not they fight in battle.
By the way, is there any explanation ever for why Peach is a hot chick and all her family and friends are little fungi?
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posted 04-02-2002 12:40 PM
Honestly, most of those things apply to any run of the mill console RPG, and are ussually taken for a given. SMRPG isn't distinctly similar to Pokemon IMO, not any more so than Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest or Lunar.
Of all those things, the biggest difference should be seen in the status effects, which are almost always useless in typical CRPGs, because of diminished effect rates against bosses and such. Also, characters don't have an inherent elemental affinity tie towards them (Mallow being an water and Mario fire, or something like that), so type modifiers are really only a big deal against enemies, rather than against you too. There are exceptions, of course, but I don't think any makes as distict a difference as in Pokemon though.
Also, in regards to the different characters being more useful in certain situations thing rarely makes as much of a difference IMO. At least in SMRPG. It's true to a greater extent in games with a serious class system, like FF5, FFT, and DQ7 though.
In the end, Pokemon really is a fairly typical console RPG, but with a few distinct differences (most significant being the large and distinct cast, and multiplayer modes). A lot of people even consider it a shallow and/or watered down version, which can be fairly true in regards to storyline or whatever, but that I strongly disagree with in regards to combat and character skill manipulation.
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posted 04-02-2002 12:43 PM
If anyone else had made this post I'd be slinging misc insults their way in no time for being to clueless about RPGs.
...But I won't ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted 04-02-2002 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Crazed Aipom:
If anyone else had made this post I'd be slinging misc insults their way in no time for being to clueless about RPGs.
...But I won't
Good crackmonkey.
Another similarity I noticed- there's actually a OHKO move in Mario RPG. Props to a) anyone who knows what it is and b) the boss it actually works on.
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posted 04-02-2002 02:22 PM
Speaking of RPGs and stuff, I was reading in this months Nintendo Power and they were talking about the difference between RPG and adventure games they said games like Pokemon were RPGs but games like Zelda ooc is Adventure. I suppose that that's right but I always considered Zelda a RPG. What are you thoughts on that?
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posted 04-02-2002 02:42 PM
I realize that these concepts must be in a whole lot of these "RPG" games, but since this one was by Nintendo, I was looking at more closely in relation to Pokemon.
It's not exactly the same, obviously, but you can see the root of just about everything in Pokemon game in SMRPG. There are even mini-games in Pokemon.
Like I said, I'm not a big console game consumer, but the more I see of Nintendo stuff, the more I realize that it's just a recycling of existing ideas. Not that that's bad or anything, but it's just interesting to see.
I didn't realize the extent to which mini-games were already a Nintendo staple when I got Super Monkey Party...but that game practically wrote itself. It still rules, of course, but it's more meaningful when you know more about Nintendo.
I'm sure cfalcon can probably trace every game back to something in prehistoric Nintendo times...
psykloak1: Speaking of RPGs and stuff, I was reading in this months Nintendo Power and they were talking about the difference between RPG and adventure games they said games like Pokemon were RPGs but games like Zelda ooc is Adventure.
So...what's the difference? More twitch-stuff in "adventure" games?
Frankly, none of these console RPGs are actual role playing games. You're not really getting into a character. The Mario of SMRPG and Paper Mario, in fact, has almost no detectable personality.
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posted 04-02-2002 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. K:
I realize that these concepts must be in a whole lot of these "RPG" games, but since this one was by Nintendo, I was looking at more closely in relation to Pokemon.
Actually, Square had as much of a hand in it as Nintendo did. I'm not entirely sure about who's responsible for what which aspects, but the game was co-developed.
Would you agree that there are more distinct differences between Pokemon and Paper Mario? Personally, I've always felt that SMRPG was more of a typical console RPG with Mario characters, while Paper Mario more more of a unique distinction from the rest of the genre.
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It's not exactly the same, obviously, but you can see the root of just about everything in Pokemon game in SMRPG.
Well, you can also see the root of just about everything in SMRPG in Final Fantasy, and the root of just about everything in Final Fantasy in Dragon Quest...Pokemon was just a next step in the life of the genre...a fairly significant one IMO, but hardly enough to redefine the all the standard conventions that have been accumulated over the years.
The same goes with just about any genre.
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Like I said, I'm not a big console game consumer, but the more I see of Nintendo stuff, the more I realize that it's just a recycling of existing ideas. Not that that's bad or anything, but it's just interesting to see.
I don't necessarily disagree, but judging by the type of connections you made in your first post, I get the impression you'd be saying that about any and every console game ever made.
I mean hell, they all have you pushing buttons in the proper sequence in order to get the desired result ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Honestly, the RPG genre has stagnated for a while now, but there are usually enough differences to make things interesting an worthwhile...kinda like the RBY electrics or something.
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So...what's the difference? More twitch-stuff in "adventure" games?
Basically, yeah. Action/RPG or just Adventure is used to describe games like Zelda, that have a exploratory/collection/boost main character's strength element, but where the action and combat are more direct.
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Frankly, none of these console RPGs are actual role playing games. You're not really getting into a character. The Mario of SMRPG and Paper Mario, in fact, has almost no detectable personality.
I normally like to consider that a plus, given how god-awful most of the dialouge or can be when RPGs try to be serious.
Erm, but it's just a standard convention. It seems to come under more criticism than any other genre title it seems, for whatever reason. I dunno, some say they're not real RPG because it's not pen and paper, some try to be silly and say that games like Goldeneye are RPGs because you play the role of James Bond, but the bottom line is people that when two people are having a conversation about RPGs, they're both going to have the same idea of what the other is talking about, so it works, I guess.
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posted 04-02-2002 03:41 PM
I've not played much of Super Mario RPG, mostly due to the fact that I have no SNES and was born a little late for that console to be bought or played regularily(I haven't got around to picking one up used, either. Thats next after I get the Game Gear and NeoGeo Pocket Color in my collection).
I have played it a little bit, and I've really liked what I've seen. I own Paper Mario, which isn't really the same thing, though. I can't really point out specific parts of the game that is similar to Pokemon, though.
Nintendo games are basically regurgitated games over and over again. The things that work, Nintendo tends to keep. They aren't a risk taker like Sega was(Sega TV, First Online, etc.) when they made consoles. Its the way that Nintendo continues to add and expand on these ideas by pressing the technology they have built. Super Mario 64 was the first sucessful platform game in 3D, I believe, even if the same principles of the old side scrolling games are present. The Zelda games were among the best games ever for the 64.
Zelda, for the last time, is not an RPG. While most RPGs today are not actual RPGs(in the Dungeons and Dragons sense), they are considered RPGs. Zelda has no stats that are able to be seen in a number value. Zelda has no magic system. Zelda has no turn based battle system which most RPGs are based on.
Mario Sunshine looks great, by the way. Looking innovative in not just that thing on his back but the storyline, from what I read. Woot.
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posted 04-02-2002 03:50 PM
Lufia II has good plot and dialogue.
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posted 04-02-2002 03:53 PM
gruco: Would you agree that there are more distinct differences between Pokemon and Paper Mario?
Definitely. SMRPG, as you said, really has the feel of a regular old RPG type game with Mario dudes plugged in. Even the monsters are a lot of D&D-type standards. (By the way, a lot of monster distribution doesn't make any sense. Why are there lizards and prairie dogs up in the clouds? Paper Mario did a much better job of that.)
Paper Mario felt like it's own game.
Well, you can also see the root of just about everything in SMRPG in Final Fantasy...
I guess so, but some things seemed so directly related, like Poison, and even identically-named attacks.
I mean hell, they all have you pushing buttons in the proper sequence in order to get the desired result
The similarities are a lot deeper than that with these games...
Erm, but it's just a standard convention. It seems to come under more criticism than any other genre title it seems, for whatever reason.
Well, it's just poorly named. It'd be as if you named all first-person shooters "swimming games" or something. If you decide on a convention, that's fine, but it's still a dumb name.
You really aren't pretending to be James Bond any more than you're pretending to be a ping-ping paddle in Pong...
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posted 04-02-2002 05:02 PM
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You really aren't pretending to be James Bond any more than you're pretending to be a ping-ping paddle in Pong...
Speak for yourself. I had some mighty fine adventures as Paddle Boy.
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posted 04-02-2002 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Jman:
Zelda has no magic system.
It does, actually. Not one to write home about, but it does...
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Lufia II has good plot and dialogue.
Eh, it's been quite a few years since I played Lufia 2, but the only thing I really remember along those lines is how much I hated the ending. FFT, FF9, and Grandia had pretty good writing IMO(by video game standards), but even those can get a bit obnoxious at some points...
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posted 04-02-2002 05:37 PM
Speaking of "obnoxious", I am again reminded of what I hate most about Nintendo games...for the love of Christ, why won't they give us a way to turn that annoying fucking music off?!?
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posted 04-02-2002 06:51 PM
they all have you pushing buttons in the proper sequence in order to get the desired result
Well, if you put it that way... all of life is just firing neurons in the proper sequence in order to get the desired result.
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posted 04-02-2002 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by psykloak1:
Pokemon were RPGs but games like Zelda ooc is Adventure. I suppose that that's right but I always considered Zelda a RPG. What are you thoughts on that?
Pokemon's main focus is the collection of Pokemon and the character advancement of those Pokemon - Zelda features character advancement only as a reward for progressing in the game itself, no matter how many Octorocks you throw jars onto you won't get any reward for Link himself in the manner of skill advances.
In Zelda, your character advances through strictly controlled ways - You can't get that Heart Piece until you can swim, you can't swim until you find the swimming master, you can't find the swimming master until you get the power bracelet, etc, etc.
RPGs as a general rule enable you to advance your character simply by finding someone else and beating them up. Experience is always a good rule to remember when judging an adventure game from an RPG. Does your character get to deal more damage because of what he's done in the story, or what you've done with him?
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Frankly, none of these console RPGs are actual role playing games. You're not really getting into a character.
That's like claiming that a sturgeon isn't a fish because we eat its eggs. Every single game can be defined as a role-playing game, it's only through the grace of the gaming djinn that we don't get cursed with titles like Resident Evil being sold as RPGs. PC RPGs and Paper RPGs are much closer together because PC RPGs are generally influenced by the Paper RPGs, whereas Console RPGs are more often than not an entirely different kind of RPG.
Paper RPGs and most PC RPGs have you making a character and then going out into the world, focus is on yourself - Console RPGs have you given characters to look after, focus is on the story.
While P&PC RPGs will advance a story very nicely, I find that the Console version of telling a story is much more satisfying in that the stories are generally much grander in design and don't rely so much on you having to listen to some aging guy in a shack telling you back story. (exaggeration)
And no, Jman, not every RPG has a turn-base.
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posted 04-03-2002 03:41 PM
Another similarity I noticed- there's actually a OHKO move in Mario RPG. Props to a) anyone who knows what it is and b) the boss it actually works on. - cmsnrub25
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posted 04-03-2002 04:30 PM
Mu: That's like claiming that a sturgeon isn't a fish because we eat its eggs.
Um...no.
Every single game can be defined as a role-playing game...
Yes, if you want to be pointlessly technical, but if you want to use the tongue of the common English-speaking human, you would specifically expect a role playing game to be a game in which you put yourself in the role of another being.
The term "RPG" has existed for some time and was already in use to define a specific sort of game when newer games co-opted the term and used it to describe something else.
As has been mentioned, we all have a general idea of what a video game "RPG" is, but it's still poorly named.
When you play Monopoly, you're not really playing the role of a big top hat moving around city blocks, and in Paper Mario, you're not really getting into the character of a strange little Italian man who stomps creatures to death for a living.
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posted 04-03-2002 04:32 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Final Fantasy X = Pokémon + plot? (+ character development + character, yeah yeah.) If Beligimene or whatever had to say 'Yuna, I challenge you to a Poké-, er, an Aeon battle!' I would not have been surprised. And this whole Battle Arena thing just stinks of the 'Gotta Catch 'Em All' deal. I haven't ran in a circle for three days straight muttering 'where the *expletive* are all the birds' since Cinnibar.
~Uiru- though, the prizes beat the hell out of that lousy diploma.
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posted 04-03-2002 05:00 PM
What, Mu? I said "Zelda has no turn based battle system that most RPGs are based on."
Sheesh. Evil frog gullets.
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posted 04-03-2002 11:01 PM
FFX was a LOT like pokemon, there was even a move called "Quick attack."
But seriously, I *loved* SMRPG when I bought and played through it all the way back in 1995.
Although I no longer have my SNES, I still rate it as one of my better SNES games...right next to CT. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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posted 04-03-2002 11:03 PM
I read in Nintendo gamer about a GCN game which sounded an awful lot like Cardcaptors except with a more-grown up character... anyone remember the title? It's probably a rip-off. Ah, RPGs! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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posted 04-04-2002 02:12 AM
You say Cardcaptors in my presense again and I'll remove the mouth you said it with.
...Er, I mean, no, I haven't heard of anything like that. Is this character as cute as Sakura? 'Cause it'd be pretty hard to top that. (The only thing that comes to mind is Rare's Kameo, which is more like Pokémon than Cardcaptor Sakura.)
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posted 04-04-2002 06:08 AM
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You say Cardcaptors in my presense again and I'll remove the mouth you said it with.
...Er, I mean, no, I haven't heard of anything like that. Is this character as cute as Sakura? 'Cause it'd be pretty hard to top that. (The only thing that comes to mind is Rare's Kameo, which is more like Pokémon than Cardcaptor Sakura.)
~Uiru
I think it's Lost Kingdoms (Rune in Japan)..
http://cube.ign.com/articles/136/136794p1.html
You'll see a nice picture of the lead character there, too, so you can make your own judgement. And it looks like it may be an interesting game, too.
Oh, and Mr. K: If you think you're seeing a lot of similarities between Pokémon and SMRPG, you should hunt down a copy of Earthbound (which is actually a pretty good game).
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posted 04-04-2002 06:46 AM
Yeah, I was gonna ask about Earthbound...now that I have this SNES thing, is that the right console for Earthbound? I'd like to see what everyone's talking about with regards to this game.
Does it have hens?
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posted 04-04-2002 09:12 AM
It has hippies. Does that count?
And there's something cuter than Sakura.
She's called Tomoyo.
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posted 04-04-2002 09:34 AM
If you like fun dialouge and really goofy scenarios, you'll probably like Earthbound.
Play mechanichs aren't too much to speak of though.
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posted 04-04-2002 11:45 AM
Yeah, I don't think I'd mind getting into her pants.
Tomoyo is a sweetie, yes... But nothing beats the two of them together. ^_^;;
~Uiru- With any luck it'll be delayed. I am totally out of bling bling. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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posted 04-05-2002 01:36 AM
Anime girls in skirts=
Oh, and Earthbound is an excellent game.
It starts off pretty slow, but picks up after a while.
I hated the game at first, but loved it by the time I finished it.
It's like many of my Lemons, as a matter of fact. 8)
*goes back to perfecting the new ones*
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posted 04-09-2002 03:21 AM
The whole sex in anime thing makes more sense when you realise that the age of consent in Japan is something like 13...
Anyway, yeah, the game I read about was Rune. The way they described it sounded like a major rip off, but I don't know the history of the whole "spirit beings that exist in cards and you use them to battle other spirits so you can catch 'em all" thing.
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posted 04-09-2002 04:03 AM
So...this Earthbound thing is a SNES game, right?
Speaking of similarities, I saw a starfish thing use "Recover" today. I know starfish regenerate their parts in real life and all, but it was still awfully reminiscent of Pokemon...
EDIT: Oh, and as for OHKOs, one of those crystal dudes has a move called "Migraine" that's a OHKO. And it looks like just about any magic attack fries a Dry Bones in one shot.
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posted 04-09-2002 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by Mr. K:
So...this Earthbound thing is a SNES game, right?
Yes.
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posted 04-09-2002 04:42 PM
**WARNING: Post contains mild Earthbound spoilers!**
To anyone who doesn't have Earthbound for their SNES, GO GET IT NOW. It may not be The Greatest Game of All Time™, but it is worthy of a purchase. Earthbound is laced with tasty goodness and mindless hilarity such as:
- Beating down on a corrupt hometown police force who is obsessed with road blocks
- Fighting a street gang who dresses as sharks and uses hula hoops and skateboards as weapons
- Pulling food out of garbage cans for later consumption
- Battling enemies such as hippies, drunk guys, mushrooms, and UFOs, among many others
- Rescuing a new party member from a cult who's goal is to paint everything blue
And all of that is just in the first portion of the game!
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Does [Earthbound] have hens?
Does it ever! You can buy a Fresh Egg for $12; wait a while and the egg hatches into a Chick and eventually turns into a Chicken, which you can sell for $110.
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posted 04-09-2002 09:55 PM
For anyone that cares...
www.68kmla.com/runelq.jpg
"...she embarks on an adventure to search for 100 magical cards..."
"...By selecting your cars and throwing it into the air dramatically..." (at least you don't have to hit it with your Magic Key of Clow Stick™)
"...summon a creature... each card contains a different creature..."
Sound familiar?
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posted 04-09-2002 11:26 PM
*yearns for little girls in skirts*
Need. More. CCS.
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posted 04-10-2002 07:16 AM
I think you'd like my CCS 2002 calendar... It's adorable. ^_^;;
CCS 9 is released on May 14th! Preorder yours today! ...NOW!
And d00d! She throws cars in the air dramatically? *LOVE*
~Uiru has CCS 1-8 and the movie...
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posted 04-10-2002 11:03 PM
There's a CCS movie? Cool!
Dubbed or subbed?
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posted 04-11-2002 11:25 PM
About Earthbound: The fun is found by wandering around towns just talking to people to see what they say. Talk to everybody and ead any and all signs. For example, in the first town, when you talk to a stray dog, the dog becomes possesed by the spirit of the game producer, tells you a little bit about the game, then turns back into a normal dog.
The gameplay is very minimal. You can actually play with just you're left hand (this is by design). Start to open the main menu, L button to select, select button to de-select, crosspad to move. The combat can get rather tedious, but it's still fun.
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posted 04-12-2002 03:44 AM
New Guy: The fun is found by wandering around towns just talking to people to see what they say.
That sounds excellent. As far as I'm concerned, Goombario is the star of Paper Mario.
My favorite part of SMRPG so far was going up into the clouds and reading other people's wishes.
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posted 04-12-2002 10:52 PM
SMRPG: better than j00. OHKO: Timed-Hit Geno Whirl, against Exor. Doesn't exactly OHKO, though. Just kills the left eye, so you can attack the head-part. The eye eventually regenerates, so on j00. The real OHKO's are from, rather than to, bosses. Most of our good friend Jinx's attacks are OHKO-based. D@mn foo. There's another attack that is a OHKO: That stupid Dark Star. That Culex fella's even harder than Smithy! Wonder where I've seen him before...
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posted 04-13-2002 03:09 AM
Culex isn't that hard.
There's a shirt you can get Mario at one point in the game that makes the battle against Culex and most bosses pushovers.
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posted 04-13-2002 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Dark_Herakurosu:
OHKO: Timed-Hit Geno Whirl, against Exor. Doesn't exactly OHKO, though. Just kills the left eye, so you can attack the head-part.
Or you can take out the left eye normally and OHKO the head part.
And if you ever need any help in Earthbound... *points to sig*
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posted 04-13-2002 01:41 PM
I don't like Geno, cos I can't figure out wtf he is. I've stared at those stupid pixels and I can't tell where the eyes or the nose or anything is.
And what do finger bullets (or whatever) have to do with little wizard toys (or whatever he's supposed to be)?
Mallow r0xx0rz.
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posted 04-13-2002 09:09 PM
Nothing about Geno has anything to do with what he is. He's some kind of life form, but you never see what. He possesses the doll, and as a result, uses its finger bullets & stuff. They were built into the doll, as you'll see when Mario faints. Geno merely upgrades them.
(And I thought he was an elf..?)
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posted 04-13-2002 09:47 PM
I've dug up my old SMBRPG guide. It has a nice big picture of Geno, so you can tell what everything is...
and I don't know why I never noticed it before, but a hat, some shoes, and a cape are the ONLY things Geno is wearing.
*throws the evil streaker doll into a bonfire*
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posted 04-14-2002 12:28 AM
Mmm… SMRPG… Great game, that.
I gotta say, while Mallow has those crazy Sonic Cymbals, Peach can and does schools all with a Lazy Shell (armor) and a Frying Pan. Gotta love it when, in the final battle with Smithy, Mario and your other dude are down for the count, but Peach is still whompin' a couple hundred HP away with every hit (and still at near-max HP herself). Put on the Safety Bit (I think it was the Safety Bit, at least; it mighta been the Quartz Charm, or something else), and see Peach eat Silver Bullet after Silver Bullet. And, if you need another party member living again (for whatever reason), just use her life spell, the name of which I can't remember, and do a Timed Hit for Max HP! Woohoo!
I gotta say, there are just so many great moments in SMRPG. For Instance:
Seeing Bowser's Hurly Gloves [sp?] for the first time.
Saying No to Mallow a coupla times when you first meet him.
Playing the Statue game with Dodo.
Playing Hide n' Seek with Booster and his Snifits.
Seeing Mario's Mega Gloves for the first time.
Seeing Mario's Lazy Shell (weapon) for the first time.
Listening to Toad's complaints at the beginning of the game.
Watching any and all of Mario's pantomimes, and how the characters in the game understand exactly what he's trying to say.
And finally, the Casino. Did I detect the tune 'Easy Money' playing in there? (or at least the first eight/ten measures, I think) Those guys running the Casino are definitely in the Toad Mafia…
And on, and on!
Ah, memories… *reminisces to himself incoherently*
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posted 04-14-2002 02:22 AM
Don't forget the NES Mario hiding behind the curtains in Booster's tower.
Or Booster's nutty train. 8)
Or Bowser's great ability to knock over Large doors with his shell.
Or the Sunken Ghost Ship.
Or The Music frog
Or the Ghostly treasure hunt!
Or...
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