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theclaw
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In the RBY and Green games Lance's Dragonite has the move barrier. That move is NEVER learned by dragonite not even with eggs or crystal! He has a gameshark.

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Yeah, he's gamesharker. :P It's mistake of programmers.That's all.

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I download from FilePlanet. I call it Ha><0rzPlanet.

Really, this has been known for a long,long,long,long time. I think that it is on one of the main pages as well.

EDIT: He also has an Aerodactyl with Rock Slide

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You say that as if he's the only Trainer to do that. But, then, Pryce's "sharking" is for another board, I suppose.

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What'd Pryce do? I tend to blast through his Gym without letting anyone get a hit off...
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Well, let's just say that if anyone can tell me a viable (in-game) way for Pryce to have a level 31 Piloswine that knows Fury Attack, I'll stop working late hours on hacking out game data.

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1. Ignorance in part of the programmers
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2. Breeding.

Can it even learn Fury Attack? /me am too lazy to look.


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Piloswine normally learns Fury Attack at level 33, usually right after evolving. There is no way for the move to be passed through breeding (Swinub does not learn it naturally, so it can't be passed like a level-up move, and it is not one of Swinub's 'egg moves')...so, Meowth is right, it's just like Lance's Aerodactyl, to an extent, but Piloswine can have Fury Attack...unlike Aerodactyl and its Rock Slide...
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I could care less if Lance's Dragonite had Barrier, or if a Piloswine had fury attack a couple levels early, but when Lance's Aerodactyl gets 3 flinches in a row with Rockslide...

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Aerodactyl used Rock Slide! Critical hit! Super Effective! Lugia is flinched.

Not so funny...


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I'm not sure if this'll help the search, or complicate it even more.

My brother was playing Gold and wanted a good early Psychic. He sharked a L3 Kadabra that had Teleport, Kinesis... and Confusion (which Kadabra's not supposed to get until L16).

It would've owned Little Cup if Kadabra was eligible.


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Don't forget the final battle in the little cup (it's probably R2, but it could be R1)

Anyway, the final guy's Porygon knows Recover at level 5!

Explain that.

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3 words: Breeding with Ditto. I think all non-legendaries can breed with Ditto. If I'm an idiot,

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Here's a nice little list of sharking between R/B/Y/G, G/S/C, and Stadium 2 (I'd do Stadium, but I'm not going to):

RBYG Lance's Dragonite has Barrier.

RBYG Gary's Gyarados knows Hydro Pump at an illegal level in some of the early battles (at 20ish and 30ish)

GSC Pryce's Piloswine is at an illegal level (31) and knows Fury Attack before it can learn it.

GSC Lance has 3 Dragonites at illegal levels (2 at 47, one at 50)

GSC Lance's Aerodactyl has Rock Slide.

Stadium 2's Lance (in R-1 and R-2 I believe) has a Dragonite at an illegal level, if you play him with a full team of Pokemon below Level 55 (his Dragonite will be at Level 50-54)

Stadium 2's Lance (R2) has a Tyranitar at an illegal level (see above)

I would do more, but I can't think of any :/

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Porygon doesn't learn Recover at birth. For a baby Porygon to be hatched at Level 5 you would need both parents to know the attack. Since two Porygons can't mate, and Porygon can only mate with a Ditto, how can a level 5 Porygon know Recover?

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For example: For a baby Eevee at level 5 to know Bite (an attack it learns later as it levels up) both it's parents must know the attack.


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No, just the male Pokemon must know the attack. Or, in Porygon's case, the Porygon. Or is there something I'm missing?

EDIT: Yes there is. I'm missing the part where I act like an idiot. (Again)

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Um...Porygon can't be a father...

Egg Moves: The father must know the move, and it must be an Egg Move for the mother (since the baby will be the unevolved speices of the mother).

Level Up Moves: Both Pokémon must know the move, and the lowest evolution of the mother must be able to learn the move from Level Up.

Level 5 Porygon can't know Recover.

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Thank you Meowth.

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I'd like to add another instance of Sharking:

Stadium 2, R2 Poke Cup Ultra Ball Final.

The Psychic Mason's Blastoise has both Haze and Mirror Coat, which are impossible to breed together.


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I recall Bandraptor saying that Lt. Surge has a Raichu with both Reversal and Surf. Apparently, the computer doesn't take breeding combination restrictions into account when designing its movesets...

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I can also say that Lance had Gold/Silver before they were even invented. Rock Slide can be put on Aerodactyl as an egg move. Eggs and Egg moves did not exist in RBY. So he has a GS tradeback too.

I think there should be a pokemon game that by the time you reach the last gym your pokemon will be level 100.

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Rock Slide can be put on Aerodactyl as an egg move.

No, it can't.

My pokemon skills even make GODS look inferior to me!

The gods must be stupid...


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For the length this thread went, did nobody freshly go through Crystal at some point while this was active?

Nobody seemed to notice the trainer at the Lake of Rage who has the level 10 Gyarados.

That seems like more obvious cheating than Pryce or Lance to me.


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I have three points to clear up.
#1 Why does Nintendo hate sharking so much? I mean that they hate something that they do themselves!!
#2 I now know for sure that Aerodactyl doesn't normally learn Rock Slide but why not?
#3 This is the most popular topic that I have ever started.

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In Stadium 1 US, the Rockets have nicknames with numbers in them, impossible without Sharking. (Persact1, etc.) (Yes, I know that in GSC, you can get the nickname "Porygon2" on your Porygon2, but that was just bad thinking on the programmer's part.) In Stadium GS, Poke Cup R-1, Ultra Ball, Round 4, the trainer (Clifford, a Super Nerd) has a Porygon2 nicknamed GON2PORY.

Also, Lance's Dragonite does NOT have Barrier in Yellow, it has the moveset Hyper Beam/Thunder/Blizzard/Fire Blast.

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I think it's his Aerodactyl that has Barrier.

Hmm, since that Aerodactyl has illegal moves in both game series, maybe it has genetically modified itself or something like that... *scary music plays*

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In the next series of games, the N will probably come up with an item that LOWERS levels...that way, the level-oriented "sharkings" would be legal.

It would also make my L15 Pika Cup Dragonite completely legal...


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Not to mention: Stadium 1, Pika Cup R2: The final trainer has a Golem at L15. That was the reason I put Dragonite on my team in the first place. If Nintendo shows me how to get a L15 Golem, then MAYBE I'll ditch Dragonite in Pika Cup (not that I need it; Starmie and Sandslash can take out Everything save for a severe luck drought).

Or maybe not.


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Not to mention his (L:20) Machamp, which IIRC, may be possible to get... in Japanese.

I remember hearing about this Haunter-for-Machoke trade in some Pokemon game (never made it to the English games.) Evidence: First issue of "Pokemon Power," it talks about a trade in the Cerulean house: "Sceptre" for "Ju-Do." (Those were the early names of Haunter and Machoke, sort of like versions of Centerity, Cirsika, and Ebeagle for RBY.)

Anyway, the point is, you could catch a Yellow Haunter at level 20, trade it for the Machoke, and evolve it.

Edit: Oops... I meant to say Haunter and Machoke, not Haunter and Sceptre.

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You could technically get a level FIVE Machamp because the in-game trade in yellow is Cubone for Machoke and Cubone can be bred to level five using GSC. I wonder how useful a level 5 Machamp would be. This is true because trading for Machoke causes it to evolve. Interestingly all of the pokemon that can be traded in-game like this can be bred.

Here is a list of pokemon that can be at level 5 using this trick:
Parasect
Dewgong
Electrode
Muk
Machamp

Isn't that silly?
Good thing the programmers of the RBY games didn't know about GSC tradebacks!

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You can also get yourself a nice level 15 Dugtrio.

I should bust out my extensive charts on how to get the lowest level possible traded Pokemon sometime.

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Actually,I found that you can catch evolved
Pokemon at levels below when they evolve. For example,you can catch Level 16 Raticates west of Ecruteak City,and in Crystal,you can catch L13 Pidgeottos(rarely) south of there.

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(Those were the early names of Haunter and Machoke, sort of like versions of Centerity, Cirsika, and Ebeagle for RBY.)

I know that Ampharos was Centerity and Smeargle was Ebeagle, but who was Cirsika?

I also remember that Misdreavus was "Trillix", and Piloswine had a completely different name, but I don't recall what it was.

Hmph, I should've saved the older versions of my Pokedex...

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quote:
Originally posted by Jolt135:
[QB]Not to mention: Stadium 1, Pika Cup R2: The final trainer has a Golem at L15. That was the reason I put Dragonite on my team in the first place. If Nintendo shows me how to get a L15 Golem, then MAYBE I'll ditch Dragonite in Pika Cup [QB]

I think you can get a level 15 Golem in yellow by finding a level 15 Graveler in the wild, and then just evolving it. Either that, or some trading trick you have to do, like theclaw posted. I lost my stadium book, so I can't look it up.

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White cat, if it helps, this website mentions "Cirsika". Maybe that can help you out. My guess would be it is Corsola...

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quote:
Originally posted by oporaca:
Not to mention his (L:20) Machamp, which IIRC, may be possible to get... in Japanese.
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Actually, it's possible to get L15 (IIRC) Machamp in the North American versions. There's an in-game trade you can do in Yellow on Route 5: Cubone for Machoke. And we know what happens when Machoke are traded, don't we?


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Ok, so I missed some trades while I was doing my accessible-through-trading Pika Cup guide (not on the net, yet.)

Corsola was Cirsika. Piloswine was something like Torvado. Some people were saying that Xatu/Neitio could be Ebeagle (Ebony + Eagle). They thought that Natu was Xatu, and that Xatu was Xoqu/Xoqo. There was another possibility for Ebeagle, but.. er... let's not get into that. *runs*

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Piloswine was something like Torvado.

Ah yes, that's what it was. Thanks.

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:POLL: What do you think of level 5 Machamp?
I just think having pokemon at levels like that is pretty silly. It is legal too, you don't need a gameshark to do it. I certainly do know a lot about pokemon!

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hmm.. i did a lvl 5 mewtwo, do they cinnibar island trick, and raise that mewtwo until it reaches lvl 5, hehe it was funny
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Hmmm...L5 Recovering Porygon....I know how that would be possible without sharking, but it’s one of those Missingno.’d-only tricks.

Step 1: Start a game on Red or Blue, such that one of the “species trigger” letters of your name is a lowercase “k.” The name “Pikachu” (case sensitive) could work.

Step 2: Get the necessary criteria achieved, and swim along the Cinnabar Coast. Keep Surfing until you see a Porygon (if your character name is Pikachu, it will be at L168). Catch it! Just DON’T USE ANY ITEMS ON IT JUST YET.

Step 3: This gets sneaky. Save the game, then plug the cartridge into the T-Pak for Stadium 2. In the cartridge, it is still saved as a L168 or whatever you caught it at, and will remain that way even after you’re done with this step. However, Stadium will treat it as a L100, and adjust its stats accordingly, for battles taking place on S2. Don’t panic when its level is only listed as 100. That said, it’s time to battle Stadium’s E5. Make sure Porygon is on your team.

Step 4: After beating them, you’ll get to restore a move. Porygon is recognized as a L100, so it can get any moves it could learn naturally at levels up to and including 100. This, of course, includes Recover. RESTORE IT!

Step 5: Put the cartridge back in the Game Boy. Get some Rare Candies, then use them on Porygon. Wrap the level around 256 to get to L5. At this point, if you haven’t drugged it up yet or used TM’s, you can do so now. (If you want to be VERY sneaky, you can have it fight battle after battle against Level 0 ‘M, thus maxing out Stat Exp. beyond the point of stat drugs alone, which were probably intended as the only way of increasing the Stat Exp. of a Little Cup competitor.)

Step 6: Put it on GSC, and use some of the TM’s exclusive to those games. Then, put it in Little Cup. Voila! A L5 Porygon that knows Recover without sharking!


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Use of the Move Restorer is unnecessary, because a wild level 168 Porygon will already have Recover in Chromatics.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shenlong19:
hmm.. i did a lvl 5 mewtwo, do they cinnibar island trick, and raise that mewtwo until it reaches lvl 5, hehe it was funny

That's not funny.

I have no idea WHY anyone would want a level 5 Machamp, except to screw with people's minds or Jynxs.

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