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Jman
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Well on meowth364's site, there are 3 new pokemon, that apparently are from Pokemon Advance!
His site's at:
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/Meowth346/forever.htm

Anythoughts on new pokemon, or that new trainer?

I'm thinking Ruriri is a Pre-Evo of Marill. Kakureon seems to be a new Evo line.... maybe Bug/Grass or Ground/Poison type? Hoeruko looks to be a pre-evo of Mantine. That trainer looks kinda cool.

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Well, 3 Pokémon would round out to 254 Pokémon, plus "Egg" (why not an "egg bit" in GS?) makes 255, rounding out the one-byte thing (the 256th graphic, of course, is NOTHING, or NO POKÉ HERE!)

Hoeruko, the Japanese name sounds like the name of a new whale Pokémon more likely (I'd say the type is NOR/WAT), but the first one is definitely a Marill pre-evo (Babymarill!) while that third Pokémon is, I believe, new (I'd say that type could be POI/DRK).


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That chameleon could also be a Dragon type.

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It has to be a pre-evolution of Marill. It looks more like a smaller Marill than an larger Azumarill.


Kakureon is probably a play on the Japanese word "kakureru" which means "to hide/conceal oneself". If that's true, then it's safe to say it is a chameleon.

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Well, I would expect that Advance would break the 256 barrier. Not everthing has to be done in 2^8. I also expect that there will be more than 256 moves. After all, advance is supposed to be a 32-bit handheld, you would expect something good to come out of it. A byte will hopefully not be enough to store the new stuff in advance.

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quote:
Originally posted by Porygone:
That chameleon could also be a Dragon type.


Or Psychic...


something about its markings reminds me of Xatu.

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They are supposed to appear in the 4th movie as well.

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The one-bit storage system we have now couldn't hold three new Pokemon. Explanation:

000: Reserved
001-251: Bulbasaur to Celebi
252: Egg (not sure if that's the actual number, but anyway...)
253, 254: AVAILABLE
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Kakureon looks like a chameleon. You know, the lizard that has a long tongue and can look to different directions with it's eyes?

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quote:
Originally posted by OrientalNoodle:
Kakureon looks like a chameleon. You know, the lizard that has a long tongue and can look to different directions with it's eyes?


Also known for it's ability to camoflague itself. Just because it's cool dosn't mean the bastard should learn a Conversion move though. That's Pory-only!

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Not anymore.

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Dayum....that is one ugly chameleon. With that zig-zag around his chest he looks like Charlie Brown...

Chameleons aren't poisonous, so I'd be pissed if he were a Poison-type. He's probably just another boring Normal-type...

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quote:
Originally posted by Rolken:
Not anymore.


It hasn't been confirmed yet. So the lizard dosn't have a Conversion yet, that possible Pory-imitating bastard.

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Bah! Delteon and Vampireon own these three!

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Meowth346 is pretty certain it learns Conversion.

Nuu...Pory at least still gots Sharpen...::Sharpens a pencil!::

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quote:
Originally posted by Yay Porygon:
Meowth346 is pretty certain it learns Conversion.

Nuu...Pory at least still gots Sharpen...::Sharpens a pencil!::


The scaly faced, cold blooded, Florida swamp reject, "look at what I can do with my tongue", can't decide what color I am, big ass head bastard, can't figure out if I wanna be an Eeveelution or a Lickitung!

*prepares to return to his team of Porygon and Porygon2*

Words cannot express my anger.....
But these come pretty close-"Kakureon, fuck you".


*takes a bow* I am done.

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Just for the curious, it's already official that Kakureon knows Conversion, Ruriri is a baby form of Marill, and Hoeruko was designed after a whale (Hoeru=Whale), Kakureon being designed after a chameleon.

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If anything I'd guess Hoeruko to be a brand new family of pokes though I wouldn't be too surprised if it were an evolution of Mantine... Now I don't get how Kakureon is related to Charmeleon... cept for eon, which is simply the American translation... so I'm lost on that one... BTW does anybody know of any new developments in the Japanese series? Anybody catch new pokes? Anybody evolve? Sorry if this is off topic but I haven't been online for about a month now... ^_^

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A chameleon Pokemon!! *Dances around happily* Me loves chameleons.

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quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
The one-bit storage system we have now couldn't hold three new Pokemon. Explanation:

000: Reserved
001-251: Bulbasaur to Celebi
252: Egg (not sure if that's the actual number, but anyway...)
253, 254: [b]AVAILABLE

255: Reserved

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The reserved and unavailable are only for G/S right? I know 0 is a missingno type glitch and if you fight it you cann't capture it even with a masterball... Isn't it possible 252-255 (minus whichever one is the egg) be used for the new ones?

Also is this for Crystal?

Finally, it's possible for them to break the one byte boundary and all up to 65,535 pokemon total and they could also have 65,535 attacks... but that would increase the memory foot print a lot and they'd need to be VERY careful about checking for illegal numbers or else someone could just search through the ROM for a bunch of FF's and find out what pokemon number they need for a guy with 00ber stats... same with attacks.
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This is for Gameboy Advance... There are no new pokes in Crystal except for Celebi, if you want to count him/her/it as new... I think at Bulbagarden they talked about extended memory or something down those lines I'm not sure...

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quote:
Originally posted by Givera:
Finally, it's possible for them to break the one byte boundary and all up to 65,535 pokemon total and they could also have 65,535 attacks... but that would increase the memory foot print a lot

Keep in mind that the GBA cart space can go up to N64 levels... and that's before the system's even released.

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quote:
Originally posted by Meowth346:
Just for the curious, it's already official that Kakureon knows Conversion,

--Meowth346


THAT SCALY BASTARD!

Too bad....I think chameleons are cool too.


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quote:
Originally posted by Meowth346:
and Hoeruko was designed after a whale (Hoeru=Whale)

*blinks* I don't know where you got that translation. Hoeru is bark/roar/howl/etc. I thought whale was "kujira".

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Another Water-type with massive HP? First Larpras, Vaporeon, and Lanturn and now "Whalemon"

Geez...this is getting a bit silly.

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You know personally, I think that the whaleboy is an evolution of Quilfish, and Mr. Chameleon might be a higher form of Lickitung. The former certainly looks a lot like Quilfish- same shape, same colurs, same colour scheme (Dark blue on top, olive yellow-green below). What do the rest of you think?

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimzonite:
*blinks* I don't know where you got that translation. Hoeru is bark/roar/howl/etc. I thought whale was "kujira".

-_- Read "hoeru" then read "whale". It's like saying that "pigu" means "pig" or "erefanto" means "elephant". Basically, if "hoeru" were used in a sentance instead of a name, it would be written in Katakana, because it's an English word, not a Japanese word. That's what I mean by "hoeru=whale," that it's an English word written in Japanese.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoppip:
You know personally, I think that the whaleboy is an evolution of Quilfish, and Mr. Chameleon might be a higher form of Lickitung. The former certainly looks a lot like Quilfish- same shape, same colurs, same colour scheme (Dark blue on top, olive yellow-green below). What do the rest of you think?


A new evolution of Lickitung!! That be sooo great!! ^_^

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quote:
Originally posted by Meowth346:
-_- Read "hoeru" then read "whale". It's like saying that "pigu" means "pig" or "erefanto" means "elephant". Basically, if "hoeru" were used in a sentance instead of a name, it would be written in Katakana, because it's an English word, not a Japanese word. That's what I mean by "hoeru=whale," that it's an English word written in Japanese.



D'oh! Never saw it that way. San kyuu. ^^;;;

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quote:
Originally posted by Noddy:
A new evolution of Lickitung!! That be sooo great!! ^_^



I sure hope so!
We all must remember that in Japan, Charmeleon ain't Charmeleon! The only Chameleon Poke in it right now is.... Licki! Look at their faces. The resemblence is uncanny.
If they make an evolution to him, all of my RBY faves will now be stat-wise par! Yeah!

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Now I don't get how Kakureon is related to Charmeleon...

Kakureon is a chameleon, and "Charmeleon" is a spoof on that word. Doesn't mean they'll have anything to do with each other in the game, of course...

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Porygone: I was just making a joke here.

You know: The teacher asks "Now, what animals there are in Australia?" and expects everybody to answer "kangaroos!" but somebody answers "koala bears!" which is true, but not as common answer as "kangaroos".

Same with a chameleon: If you ask somebody what they know about chameleons, they'll probably say something like "Chameleon is a lizard that can change it's colour according to the enviroment..." and not by telling about their ability to look in different directions and about their long tongues...

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Just for the record...it's not environment that causes chameleons to change color; it's mood. For example, while fighting, male chameleons will often develop patches of black.

They also have prehensile tails, which they can curl up into a cinnamon-bun shape behind them... ^_^

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And cute lil hands that look like mittens... ^_^ Chameleon... Charmeleon God I'm an idiot... Ah well I should pay more attention thanks WC... ^_^*

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