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Jman
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posted 10-20-2000 03:54 PM      Profile for Jman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone see that stupid anime commercial?

Well, I thought it was stupid, because the Johto Gym Leaders are very, very easy(Except for maybe Whitney, with that D*** Miltank).

I think I know why G/S is easier or quicker to beat. Its because there are less "Mini Quests" that you HAVE to complete. There is only(to my knowlage):

Radio Tower(The Biggie one)
Slowpoke Well(Simple)


In R/B/Y:

Silph Co.
Game Corner
Ghost Tower
Seafoam Islands(okay, you don't have to beat this, but I did, before I found that you could Fly to Pallet then surf)
Victory Road

So you can see that that is why its easier. They prolly can't have all those Side Quests because they are more attacks, pokemon, and stuff like that.

Ideas? Comments?

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You forgot under Mahogany, the Mahogany town RageCandyBar Shop. (You have to do that one.)

Other quests you can miss if you feel like it:
Dark Cave, Mt. Mortar, and the Alph Ruins.

If I missed any, feel free to add on.

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posted 10-20-2000 04:53 PM      Profile for Power Soul Rebirth   Email Power Soul Rebirth   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Victory Road still exists... and then there's the Tin Tower and Whirl Islands...

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A few random thoughts that might explain why "G/S is easier then R/B/Y":

1. Our Pokémon knowledge is much more extensive. In R/B/Y we used crappier Pokémon, rather then decent ones with killer movesets.

2. The level of the opponents Pokémon never increase! They finally increase beyond level 30 in Celadon City! My team reached level 30 by Olivine City. It's sickening to fight Pokémon that are usually 15 levels lower then your team.

3. The Gym leaders only have two or three Pokémon, which makes the "bosses" of the game extremely easy.

4. All the trainers you encounter are using the lower evolutions of their Pokémon, which cripples their effectiveness.

5. There aren't any lengthy "caves" or large "Silph Co. Battle" squences. You're basically traveling along routes with maybe 4 trainers on them.

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Marril
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posted 10-20-2000 05:57 PM      Profile for Marril     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whitney was Godd*mn easy... maybe that's because my starter was female...

Anyway, the gym leaders have AI set to "quasi-Stadium" to cope with their bad Pokémon. Anyway, death be to the Trainer who actually BEATS me, I've only "whited out" twice. And that was against Bugsy (her !%#&*!% Scyther got my Quilava in one !^&* hit with that !^*&^% Fury Cutter). Oh, and I lost to Morty once, !&*%*&^ Gengar...

Anyway, the Gym Leaders are a bit harder, to cope with all the lack of subquests. Still, you only really need three Pokémon to fight, one "Swiss Army Krab" or two for HM's, and you've won, except against that ^!%# %!$# !%&% Elite Four... you need like 14 Revives... and then there's Lance... and Red's godforsaken Snorlax...

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Thats why I started with Thyplosion, with his great speed he almost always gets the first hit!!! ^_^ Oh, and don't forget Slowpoke Well, Jasmine's sick poke, snatch that idiot's Farfetch'd, and.... I can't think of any more....

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posted 10-20-2000 07:24 PM      Profile for Volrath50     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I only whited out on Whitiny... D**n Mil(?)tank...

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what are you talkin about? whitney was easy as hell, maybe oart of that was me having 4 lv 20+ at the time and one of them being geodude, but she was really easy.

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posted 10-20-2000 08:34 PM      Profile for Guld_YF21   Email Guld_YF21   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry I thought Whitney was so easy. First against Militank I sent out a Level 18 Ghastly and used Hypnosis then Cure. After I sent out a Level 18 Unown and Hidden powered and cursed it to death while it slept.

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posted 10-21-2000 01:55 AM      Profile for Netbrian   Author's Homepage   Email Netbrian   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn't think Whitney was as hard as she was in my Japanese ROM... There, she could KO everything I had in one hit, except for Bellsprout. Basically, I BARELY squeaked by that time... It was easier the second time, just paralyze and blast away.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marril:

Anyway, death be to the Trainer who actually BEATS me, I've only "whited out" twice. And that was against Bugsy (her !%#&*!% Scyther got my Quilava in one !^&* hit with that !^*&^% Fury Cutter



Her? Bugsy is male (he looks like a young bishounen, actually).

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Marril
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With a name like Bugsy? What WERE "his" parents thinking? That's like having a girl named Jason or something...

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posted 10-21-2000 08:07 PM      Profile for boy   Email boy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I only whited out during the bug catching game yesterday.

Whitney was a peice of cake for me. My Machop took out her Miltank in 2 hits.

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I got Prima's guide book to GS before I even got the game and, man, did I think it looked difficult! With so many new attacks and items and new places to visit, I honestly thought I was screwed! (Not to mention new hidden items, POKEMON, methods of breeding, trading, evolution, oh gosh...) But when I actually started to play it -- bam, I got it instantly! Nothing too hard.

By the way, don't buy Prima's strategy guide -- there isn't even a Pokedex! You've got to buy it in a separate book! (The only reason I chose to buy it is because it showed the base damage done by all the attacks; some rather valuable information that will eel its way online soon enough.)

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posted 10-21-2000 09:43 PM      Profile for Magby     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
By the way, don't buy Prima's strategy guide -- there isn't even a Pokedex! You've got to buy it in a separate book! (The only reason I chose to buy it is because it showed the base damage done by all the attacks; some rather valuable information that will eel its way online soon enough.)

I find the prima book much better than the nintendo stuff, after a certin point, it doesn't tell you what you can catch in each area, and doesn't give you a pokedex(no seprate book even). And doesn't tell you what pokemon the origonal gym leaders have (i don't know if they have the same, i just beat the elite 4).

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Yeah nintendos book is a piece of krap. Next theyll say that "Mewtwo can breed and make an indestructable army!!" Morons, I havent even played the game and I could write a better guide than those so called experts.

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Marril
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posted 10-22-2000 12:50 PM      Profile for Marril     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dang, I feel sorry for you. Anyway, at least the Brady Games guide is a good one. All I use it for is the maps and it tells you what Pokémon the trainers have

"Let's see, this person has a Wartortle... I'll just bring out Ampharos..."

Too bad it dosn't have a Pokédex. :\ Still, if it tells you what trainers have (and if they'll give you their phone numbers so I know who NOT to talk to), then it's good enough for me...

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posted 10-23-2000 01:08 AM      Profile for kelv   Email kelv   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Side quests:
Johto
Whirl Islands
Ruins of Alph
Lake of Rage/Mahogany Town
Bug Catching Competition
Kimono Girls
Miltank Farm
Goldenrod City Radio Tower
Dark Cave
Jasmine's sick pokémon
Ecruteak's two towers
Ilex Forest
Slowpoke Well
Mr. Pokémon's house

Kanto
S. S. Aqua
Power Plant/Bill/Misty
Copycat (for Magnet Train Ticket)

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