Mewtwo is not cheap.

Mewtwo may be a highest-special attack, virtually unpredictable due to his TM compatiblity, still good in all categories bastard of a Psychic, but definitely not cheap.

ANYONE who says a Pokemon is cheap in Metallics deserves to be shot, and ran over repeatedly.

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Hopefully now that Fanny's gone this ember won't torch anything more.

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"Think of a flaming monkey."
FlamingMonkey645, ex-GamrGuy, unrelated to psycho monkey.

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Originally posted by Artie Cuno:
"Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. Only selfish trainers think like that. The best trainers win with their favorites."

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EXACTLY

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-Dragonite21

Well,I've finally gotten tired of Mewtwo, basically because he's no longer anything
compared to Espeon(my fave psychic,BTW),
but I want to point out that I'll use him
in Stadium(to get Surfing Pikachus) and
GB(to train weaker Pokemon through the E4)
only. I was worried that you people...

(Suddenly goes into one of his stupid modes)

LET'S GO BACK IN TIME TO WHEN POKEMON WAS
CREATED AND FORCE SATOSHI-SAMA TO NOT WRITE
MEWTWO! GET RID OF HIM IN THE GAME AND THE MOVIES! THEN THERE'LL NEVER BE A CHEAP-ASS!

Brrr...

Sorry about that,my dad says I say stupid things like that.

Now people are arguing about Lugia/Ho-Oh being cheap,especially in Pokemasters.

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* GLOOMBOY: The Vileplume Trainer *

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Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. Only selfish trainers think like that. The best trainers win with their favorites.

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Once again, exactly.

The game is more interesting this way, and losing isn't as hard to take.

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"Think of a flaming monkey."
FlamingMonkey645, ex-GamrGuy, unrelated to psycho monkey.

I think this debate is null now that G/S is out. Mewtwo now has no way of powering up his SA, which is what made him so unbeatable in the first place.

I think people should take Karen's advice.

1) dj_wolf, have you heard of punctuation? You sound like an 11-year-old.

2) Why did Mr. K nuke all the mlmiddleton and Fanha topics on the board? It took a lot of good stuff out of this thread (even if Fanha was an asshole, he was half the debate, and the newcomers will have no idea what this thing is about).

3) Gee, Sneakerton really made himself look like an asshole. I also notice a lot of people are getting respect in this thread from people who no longer respect them. I wonder why these things change...

4) That turkey was so good... I LOVE THAT GIRL!

Seriously, Our battles were hella tight.

*Highlights
-Kingler crab hammers Muk's ass
-Fearow mirrors thunderwave
-Porygon ownz T-wave, Recover, Conversion, Double Edge
-Kangaskhan proves its self
-Mr. Mime survives a rest

Good timez.

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If you are already insane, then there is nothing to worry about.

You'll never die.

Note to Mr. K: You are damn cool.

*runs*

I have never liked a weak pokémon, except Gyarados, and at that point I thought he was strong (I was a newbie), and therefore, will always rate pokémon on there strength, I slightly favor the water-type, but even so, I favor pokémon to strongly if they have a lot of power, perhaps you play different from me, because you ahve all been in major big tournaments, but since they refuse to come to Canada, I never get an oppurtunity to play in a tournament. My favoratism towards the water type, perhaps puts a small dent in my team, (I use 3 waters).

...yes, I know raw battle logs are frowned upon, but...

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Originally posted by SDShamshel:
Why? WHY? WHY is this BACK?!

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Because, you are the weakest link!

Goodbye.

Props to Mr. K.

This made some interesting reading. Some good sig material also: "I wonder if you and the other Mewtwo-lovers will stick by him so loyally when G/S comes. Dark is gonna totally kick ass =)" -Acey

MEWTWO used SUBMISSION!
Enemy HOUNDOOM / TYRANITAR / JUSTABOUTANYDARK fainted! :P

There will be no "Round 4."

Why must people keep on reviving this damn topic? It's been done to death.

Newbies say Mewtwo is cheap. Is he cheap? Well, if there ARE any cheap Pokémon it's these 3: Lugia, Mewtwo, Houou (and that's if you say any Pokémon are cheap)

Anyway, a Pokémon is a Pokémon. If you are beaten by a Mewtwo, it's your OWN damn fault for not having a good enough team to beat it or using a Mewtwo yourself.

I know this topic was back in the day of RBY, but even THEN you could stop Mewtwo. My Chansey was really good at that

*MK hugs Chansey*

I went to an offical Nintendo tournament and Chansey might have been my 2nd Poke (I'm not sure anymore, long time ago Tourney for RBY) anyway, my Chansey was able to defeat an Alakazam, a Charizard, and possible even my opponent's Mewtwo (I wish I remembered exactly how to battle went it was TOO long ago, but I might have not won if it wasn't for Chansey's high Special)

So, thanks to G/S/C Mewtwo is less Powerful and more beatable, but, even in RBY, it was possible!

-MK
[EDIT: Typo]

That was the problem with Mewtwo in RBY. He had such a distinct advantage over all other Pokemon. Mewtwo, was, without a doubt, the best Pokemon in the game. Argue all you want, the stats, TM compatibility, learned moves, and type don't lie. Physical attacks on Mewtwo are rare, but they DO exist. And you know what? Unlike other high specialists, Mewtwo has a high attack rating to back up his absurd Special. You can say you'll always know what Mewtwo will pack, but you're looking at the online community only. Even then, some good players don't pack Recover on Mewtwo. Mewtwo, after all, can Selfdestruct.

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Mewtwo, WAS, without a doubt, the best pokemon in the game

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With G/S out now for the past year or however long it's been out, this whole topic is moot now.

WHY MUST PEOPLE KEEP BRINGING THIS TOPIC BACK FROM THE DEAD??? Just bury the damn thing and never mention it again. I think Nintendo/Game Freak (whichever thought up of giving Mewtwo all the advantages) have learned their lesson by now.

In the end, Mewtwo strong, beatable yes, considered cheap by some newbies.

That's the worst definition of "cheap" I've ever heard.

and in RBY I’d have to say Chansey can reliably beat Mewtwo.

Chansey cannot beat Mewtwo; it can only stall it with a PP-wasting war. The same thing goes for Slowbro.

The metagame should not evolve to focus so much on just one Pokemon.

Exactly. When Mewtwo is used, that's exactly what happens, and it ruins the fun of the game.

Basically, Mewtwo's Cheapness boils down to two things:

It would take four Psychics from Snorlax to down Machamp. Lax dies in two Cross Chops. And anyway, I'm talking about RBY.

2. Two words: Sporing 'Trode.

That's cheating, and therefore doesn't count.

Your new "consistency" grading scale is worthless. Who cares what the standard deviation of their stats is? You even admitted that Chansey ranks at the bottom, and I don't know of anyone who would claim it's a crappy Pokemon.

If you start playing “Mewtwo Limits Clause”, where M2 can’t be above L90 and can’t have Amnesia, a L90 Mewtwo ... would score 1602, so that it’s in 9th place. Not nearly as unbalancing now that it’s behind Golduck!

When you have to resort to cutting down Mewtwo's level and restricting his moves, you're just proving my point.

That, and I’ll take credit for allowing people on all the boards to start using Mewtwo in RBY again.

-separation of S.Att and S.Def
-Dark types
-Steel types
-Dark moves
-Megahorn.... the move that CAN ohko a mewtwo
-two words: shadow ball
-baton passing
-Amnesia´s only taking care of s.def
-m2´s low S.Def (but not too low)
-curse
-A stronger chancey (blissey) that can curse (bad blissey, bad blissey! that´s not something YOU should be doing!)
-New high S.Def pokemon: shuckle, houou, lugia
-MeanLook
-Perish Song
-Tyranitar: The cooler, bigger, better dragonite, (despite submission)!
-Fixed CH ratio