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Scyther7164
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posted 05-09-2000 05:41 PM      Profile for Scyther7164     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why does the Toby-Bro moveset have Thunder Wave instead of Psychic? .

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posted 05-09-2000 05:49 PM      Profile for GolemKong   Author's Homepage   Email GolemKong   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, it was originally designed as an M2 killer, and Toby's really slow, T-wave is to give it the speed advantage.
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posted 05-09-2000 06:17 PM      Profile for Koetsu     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
::nods head::

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posted 05-09-2000 07:11 PM      Profile for starCaliber   Email starCaliber   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmm...let's count the number of obvious questions that Scyther7164 has asked.

-This one...
-Drill Peck or Sky Attack??
-Are there really personal maxes??
-Which of these 5 water Pokemon are the best (when Toby-Bro was included in the 5)??
-How do you hack your Pokemon's stats on GameShark??

Uhh, Scyther? That's 5. Make sure the answer to a question that you ask isn't already explained in a million other places before you ask it here. Geez.

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posted 05-09-2000 08:39 PM      Profile for TeeJay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lol, sibling rivalry, lol.

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posted 05-10-2000 05:24 PM      Profile for Porcupine   Email Porcupine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I asked essentially the same question as Scyther just a couple days ago.

All you guys are wrong. Mr K said that Thunder Wave is there, in the hopes that Mewtwo will be Fully Paralyzed for a 2 or 3 turns in a row, so that Slowbro can kill him outright with Amnesia'ed Surf. This makes the
most sense to me.

I did some calculating, and figure that if both pokemon use full PP Ups, Slowbro has around a 45% chance to kill a Double-Team-less Mewtwo outright. However he will definitely lose the PP wars to Mewtwo because of his Thunder Wave if he can't kill Mewtwo outright. Mewtwo also has a small chance, maybe 10%, to kill Slowbro outright with lucky consecutive Critical Hit Psychics.

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It should be Blizzard...

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posted 05-10-2000 06:31 PM      Profile for VaporeonsHaze   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
some people just dont get it. ok mr magic, take 95, the attack power of surf, add the 50% bonus, making it aprox. 142. STRONGER than blizzard and more accurate.

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posted 05-10-2000 07:28 PM      Profile for TeeJay     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The bonus is only a puny 25%. You forgot that Slowbro is Water/PSYCHIC.

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posted 05-10-2000 07:38 PM      Profile for VaporeonsHaze   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
doh, but i thought that it was 50% all the time. i read that some where but thought it was wrong, still surf with 25% bonus is like 118 and 99.6% accurate or whatever.

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posted 05-10-2000 08:00 PM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TeeJay:
The bonus is only a puny 25%. You forgot that Slowbro is Water/PSYCHIC.

That's not how type bonuses work. He gets the full 50%. Just like Dodrio gets the full 50% for both Drill Peck and Hyper Beam, to use (I think) the example on the Teaching page...

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DOLT!

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posted 05-10-2000 09:11 PM      Profile for Rolken   Author's Homepage   Email Rolken   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Really? I faintly remember once that someone said Normal attacks get no bonuses. Oh well.

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quote:
Originally posted by TeeJay:
The bonus is only a puny 25%. You forgot that Slowbro is Water/PSYCHIC.

Ahh, ya stupid idiot.

It's been tested and proven that it's 50%, so put down your versus and primia guides and listen to the people who know what their talking about, you lamer.

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Don't you be callin me a lamer. I know this site is right. Just I get things confused from my guide days, so lay off me dang it.

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posted 05-10-2000 11:25 PM      Profile for starCaliber   Email starCaliber   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hehe...TeeJay got dissed...
Hehe...

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This post has gotten somewhat bitter...

The variable bonuses are wrong. They are strongly emphasized in the Versus guide, however, and I bought into them (as I hadn't done any testing) until I found this site.

There is no way it should be Blizzard. Not now, not ever. Blizzard is for a different Slowbro for a different task. It hits less often, has less PPs, and is less powerful on Slowbro than Surf. The only thing it has going for it is an almost 10% chance of a freeze, and that won't work if Mewtwo has a sub up.

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Scyther7164
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posted 05-21-2000 06:42 PM      Profile for Scyther7164     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi.

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