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EeveeTrainer
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posted 04-20-2000 10:08 AM      Profile for EeveeTrainer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This Mew is the best!

Mew- Fissure/Thunder-wave/Horn Drill/SoftBoiled

It can take out an opponent's whole team if your lucky!

~ET

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posted 04-20-2000 11:54 AM      Profile for PoKamek   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Having two one-hit KO moves is just redundant, in my opinion. Fissure doesn't really have an advantage over Horn Drill, mostly because it doesn't work on flying types.

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posted 04-20-2000 11:59 AM      Profile for Volrath50     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That Mew Rocks........ I've used it....... I've won in 12 turns before...... Now Mewtwo AND Mew are banned 'cause of me

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Stephen
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posted 04-20-2000 11:59 AM      Profile for Stephen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PoKamek:
Fissure doesn't really have an advantage over Horn Drill, mostly because it doesn't work on flying types.

But it will hit ghosts, whereas Horn Drill won't.

-Stephen


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posted 04-20-2000 02:58 PM      Profile for Iyse   Email Iyse   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow! I gotta try that!!!

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Mewtwo used Amnesia
Mew used Thunder Wave

Mew used Swords Dance
Mewtwo's fully paralysed

Mew used Swords Dance
Mewtwo's fully paralysed

Mew used Swords Dance
Mewtwo used Amnesia

If I get hit by Psychic, I'm dead for sure. I have to take out Mewtwo!

Mew used Explosion
Critical Hit

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posted 04-20-2000 03:22 PM      Profile for Jackdaw   Author's Homepage   Email Jackdaw   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, that would suck to fight. Of cousre, if the other player had Substitute, you'd only destroy their clones on each hit, which would drain your PP really fast.

Anyhoo, Agility might work better than Thunderwave. In one use (three uses for a big advantage), you would be prepared to take out an entire team, were the previous would have to T-wave every pokemon first.

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posted 04-20-2000 03:47 PM      Profile for Fish     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I had that thought a while back, but if that Mew gets slowed down, he is worthless.
Too much of a gamble for me.

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posted 04-20-2000 03:48 PM      Profile for EeveeTrainer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Jackdaw:
Wow, that would suck to fight. Of cousre, if the other player had Substitute, you'd only destroy their clones on each hit, which would drain your PP really fast.

Anyhoo, Agility might work better than Thunderwave. In one use (three uses for a big advantage), you would be prepared to take out an entire team, were the previous would have to T-wave every pokemon first.


Mew can't learn agility....

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posted 04-20-2000 03:51 PM      Profile for Iyse   Email Iyse   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, just tried him against Toby. He sucks if he's paralysed!

Forget it

Go with Dragonite:

Horn Drill
Agility
Thunderwave
Rest

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Mewtwo used Amnesia
Mew used Thunder Wave

Mew used Swords Dance
Mewtwo's fully paralysed

Mew used Swords Dance
Mewtwo's fully paralysed

Mew used Swords Dance
Mewtwo used Amnesia

If I get hit by Psychic, I'm dead for sure. I have to take out Mewtwo!

Mew used Explosion
Critical Hit

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posted 04-20-2000 07:36 PM      Profile for zapjol     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had that mew a long time ago exept with sub over fissure to stop paralisis.

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Jolteons the best!
T-bolt
T-wave
Focus energy
Toxic

*ZAP sent out Jolteon*
*out comes mewtwo*
*Toxic*
*focus energy*
*T-bolt*
*T-bolt*
*mewtwo fanted*


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posted 04-20-2000 07:40 PM      Profile for zapjol     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jackdaw one hit KO moves only work better when your faster than the aponint. so use agilty that much wouldn't be better than using it once.

Another 1 hit ko guy would be

Slobro
T-wave
Fisser
Sub
rest

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Jolteons the best!
T-bolt
T-wave
Focus energy
Toxic

*ZAP sent out Jolteon*
*out comes mewtwo*
*Toxic*
*focus energy*
*T-bolt*
*T-bolt*
*mewtwo fanted*


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posted 04-20-2000 10:20 PM      Profile for Porcupine   Email Porcupine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Of all these pokemons you people have proposed, the best one is the original Mew, by EeveeTrainer. I have considered that EXACT same Mew, myself. It is quite good.

There is actually nothing wrong with that Mew, but there is stuff wrong with the later mentioned pokemons.

But I would rather have a Mew that knows Transform. Transform is an awesome move, and even if I saw a Ditto in a tournament I would be worried. I don't care how crappy Ditto's stats are, you still cannot usually kill him in 1 hit, and that makes him dangerous. He can probably still be dealt with though, but I wouldn't laugh at him.

My own Mew would probably have:

Transform
Softboiled
1 offensive moves, such as Fissure/HornDrill/Psychic/Hyperbeam/Explosion
1 weird move, such as TWave/DoubleTeam/Mimic/SwordsDance

I think that is the template for the best Mew. The first two moves are probably essential, and the last 2 moves can make a bunch of differentish Mews.

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posted 04-23-2000 05:09 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Those are all great pokemon if you have good luck w/ 1-Hit KO's but I would only suggest them for fun (Which I'm assuming you are) unless you are REALLY confident in the rest of your team. I thought I'd just review each of the characters...

*Mew-Fissure/Thunder-wave/Horn Drill/SoftBoiled
Good... unless your paralyzed first by someone faster then your worthless - underthose circumstances Rest would prove useful. Fissure & H.Drill is redundant like PoKamek stated but it A) Doubles the number of PP you have (From 8 to 16) and B) Allows you to affect both Ghosts & Flying types. Of course ground types cann't be paralyzed but Dugtrio is the only ground type faster and he isn't TOO popular... yet...

*Dragonite-Horn Drill/Agility/Thunder-wave/Rest
This is very similar to mine (Mine is a Toxic Wrapper though...). T.Wave the first baddie then agility 2x or 3x then Rest if you need to get rid of Paralyzation then H.Drill the rest... Ghosts are immune though and he's vulnerable to a LOT of ice while sleeping. Dugtrio (and if Nidoking IIRC) are immune to T.Wave so you would need to start w/ Agility instead but then it would work fine...

*Jolteon-Thunderbolt/Thunder-wave/Focus energy/Toxic
That's not really a 1-Hit KO pokemon... Nidoking and Nidoqueen are completely immune to this... Ground type protects from both Elec. attacks and Poison type stops Toxic... One earthquake from either and he's dead! T.Wave and Toxic don't work together but F.Energy and T.Bolt is a good combo as a finisher on Water or Flying types if they've setup a defense but otherwise two T.Bolts will have the same effect. Sand-Attack might be nice over Toxic.

*Slobro-Thunder-wave/Fissure/Substitute/Rest
Good... he's open to T.Wave at first but once the sub is up he can Rest... I would prefer Amnesia over Substitute because it lasts longer but then he becomes a Toby-Bro w/ Fissure. Again only one 1-Hit KO means innefective against SOMETHING (In this case flying types).

That's all... I won't rate Zapjol or Porcupine's mews because they have either been covered basicly (Zapjol's) or aren't complete and don't really fit the rest of the theme (Porcupine's)
-Givera

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I've thought of such a Mew before. The one-hit wonder... heh, too bad Dugtrio mops the floor with it. Can't be Thunder Waved and it's faster than Mew. I'd drop Fissure for Psychic as a back-up move.

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posted 04-23-2000 06:42 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Grrr... I was feeling so good that I had just made a good (IMHO) review of all your guy's 1-Hit KO pokemon but just a minute ago I was reading a post on the Critical hit formulae and noticed Zapjol's Jolteon is in his signature - he wasn't submitting it as a 1-Hit KO... Stupid Stupid Stupid... I feel so Stupid!! I'm just going to dig a hole and hide there for the rest of my life listening to a recording saying STUPID STUPID STUPID over and over again... WAAAHH!!
-Givera, inventer of the exploding Pikachu

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posted 04-23-2000 07:20 PM      Profile for Hackman   Author's Homepage   Email Hackman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone consider Body Slam over t-wave? Do damage and have a good chance of paralysis, and then fissure/drill as other move.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hackman:
Anyone consider Body Slam over t-wave? Do damage and have a good chance of paralysis, and then fissure/drill as other move.


I'd rather have a dependant T-Wave instead, since on most 1HKO movesets speed leads. I'd hate going for the PAR via Body Slam and having to wait 10 turns to finally pull out the big guns. That would suck worse than a cheap prostitude Friday night at happy hour (or having yer Max-Stat Mewtwo killed by a Weedle-more on that lataz).

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The Team v. 1.5:
~Electrode~ Mr.T, fool
Screech, Explosion, T-Bolt, T-Wave
~Porygon~ SourceCode
Recover, Substitude, Sharpen, Double-Edge
~Poliwrath~ PoppinFrsh
Submission, Hypnosis, Amnesia, Hydro Pump
~Gengar~ !v)-(o;l
Seismic Toss, D-Team, Thunderbolt, Confuse Ray
~Mew~ ([Hermes])
Transform, Toxic, Softboiled, Blizzard
~Jynx~ dRaG kWeEn
Lovely Kiss, Blizzard, Psychic, Reflect
Go ahead. Rate it. It's OKAY to be off-topic!


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I prefer Sub over Thunder Wave (if mew get's paralysed, he's useless) and leaving paralysis for my Electrode. Mew's relatively fast anyways.

I've got two Mew, but I want a third to test out Transform, unless I refit my SD Mew before each and every battle.

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You're right Givera, you mentioned a good weakness of the original EeveeTrainer's Mew which I said was the best Mew I saw written so far.

But that doesn't surprise me. You can't expect Mew to be so powerful he can't be hurt by specific anti-strategies. Other strategies can hurt that Mew as well. He is still probably better than the later Mews I saw though.

That's why I said a good Mew shoudl know Transform. It is a super versatile move, and will at least ensure a tie if Mew comes across some bastard like Mewtwo. In most cases if you are inventive in your use of transform your Mew will win. In a 6 on 6 pokemon battle, that one Mew can singlehandedly win the match for you under certain circumstances, because of Transform. If any PP wasting wars begin, then that Transforming Mew can be a real bastard, each Transform gives him 20 PP, with 10 Transforms that wastes 210 turns or something. =D Besides he will be super strong each time if he turns into a Mewtwo. =D

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Porcupine:
Its nice to know other people can see the light of transform.

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But I don't play matches just to tie. The thought of a 210 turn battle makes me sick

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Woohoo! I'm not the only one that thinks keeping Transform on me Mew newbie-ish and, uh, bad!
*does a little dance around the room*
I didn't © it, but it's been in me sig a while now, mind you. I might replace Blizzard with Sub, but still pondering....

It's hard to decide on movesets with so little opposition. I'm showing people this site. Maybe then I can have someone to humiliate...er...fight.
Leaving now.

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The Team v. 1.5:
~Electrode~ Mr.T, fool
Screech, Explosion, T-Bolt, T-Wave
~Porygon~ SourceCode
Recover, Substitude, Sharpen, Double-Edge
~Poliwrath~ PoppinFrsh
Submission, Hypnosis, Amnesia, Hydro Pump
~Gengar~ !v)-(o;l
Seismic Toss, D-Team, Thunderbolt, Confuse Ray
~Mew~ ([Hermes])
Transform, Toxic, Softboiled, Blizzard
~Jynx~ dRaG kWeEn
Lovely Kiss, Blizzard, Psychic, Reflect
Go ahead. Rate it. It's OKAY to be off-topic!


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