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Dark-Celebi
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posted 03-18-2002 04:14 PM      Profile for Dark-Celebi     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know alot of you get sick of people always asking but is there any news of a pokemon championship in the uk or a world championship this year?
Thanks for any replys cya [Smile]

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maybe...

[Wink]

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Not as of yet.

Though there is a major international event coming up (World Cup of Soccer/Football), so maybe we'll get something. Hey, Square and Nintendo are back together, so ANYTHING'S possible.

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posted 03-18-2002 06:52 PM      Profile for EspeonNidoking   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Slade_64:
maybe...

[Wink]

are you even any good at GSC?

no offense, i know you rocked at RBY...but...if you plan on competing, think you'd actually stand a chance?

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quote:
no offense, i know you rocked at RBY...but...if you plan on competing, think you'd actually stand a chance?
Ha hAh ha ha ha !!....

oh wait......

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Dragonite21
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posted 03-19-2002 02:40 AM      Profile for Dragonite21     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder, if there was a tourney, how many people from this board would have to shark up teams because they've never actually picked up a Gameboy, and became 'experienced trainers' by spending their lives on #pokebattle.

[ 03-19-2002, 02:41 AM: Message edited by: Dragonite21 ]

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Yeah. Buncha wussies.

I like mah Furret.

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Actually,I just think that we have more chances to see swift miss twice in a row than to get a new championship...or maybe I'm wrong
*crosses fingers*
By the way,in case of a tourney,I wouldn't even have to shark a team,I already have a team ready [Smile]

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I just finished raising my Magmar to L100 last night. Now I've got 5/6 Pokemon raised, with only one decent Water-type left to choose and raise.

ph33r. [Big Grin]

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There was a tournament going round australias Eastern cities during holidays... Isn't there one around you...

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sorry to intrude...
i talked to some dude at 1 800 255 3700 and although they dont know crap about pokemon, they do make the tours(i think) anyways, he said theres probably one in the summer, then went off on a rant about the excitement of pokemon.com
so keep your eyes open on the pokemon site during the summer.
[Smile]
btw: dodrio gameboy = one lvl 100 pokemon in three hours. think on it...

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posted 03-23-2002 10:14 AM      Profile for ThaMasta   Author's Homepage   Email ThaMasta   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally sent by Mr. NOE Executive man:
I am afraid that I am not able to inform you of any Pokémon Championships or tours at the moment. However, if Nintendo plan to host any events we will announce it in the games press.

Once again thanks for the inquiry.

So eh.. i don't think that they have been thinking over it all too much to be honest, so every keep bugging them.

Oh, and last year as i was leaving that poxy rentals tour thang i asked one of the guys who was helping out, and he said there would definatly be one this year.. but who can you trust?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dragonite21:
I wonder, if there was a tourney, how many people from this board would have to shark up teams because they've never actually picked up a Gameboy, and became 'experienced trainers' by spending their lives on #pokebattle.

I thought it was forbidden to use game-sharks for tournaments? Or, what exactly are the rules? (I don't know that much about tournaments yet)

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It is forbidden, but because it's mostly undetectable people think it's okay.
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posted 03-30-2002 02:18 AM      Profile for Pokegod     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, go ahead, shark some pokes, shark some moves, levels, hell, shark some stats experience while your at it... but touch one DV and you are no better than that infamous 999 stat eevee kid

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posted 03-30-2002 05:35 AM      Profile for ThaMasta   Author's Homepage   Email ThaMasta   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
GameSharks are evil.

Althjough i have one, and i use it every so often to shark up a stupid leveled team on Stadium or something. Although i never use sharked pokemon for a tourney. It would just be unfair to the other people who trained properly, and anyway its evil i tells ya!

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There is nothing wrong with sharking providing you do not mess with pokemon DVs. Sharking saves time. Any old dope could continuously go through the elite four training up their pokemon but for tournuies, etc, the question is who can battle the best not train the fastest. Yes, sharking can be mistreated but the people who do this are generally caught red-handed. Sharking is just like training but is less effort and less time wasted. Who here likes training pokemon? I don't. In fact the whole game of pokemon is crap, except the battling.
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quote:
Originally posted by undone-backwards:
There is nothing wrong with sharking providing you do not mess with pokemon DVs. Sharking saves time. Any old dope could continuously go through the elite four training up their pokemon but for tournuies, etc, the question is who can battle the best not train the fastest. Yes, sharking can be mistreated but the people who do this are generally caught red-handed. Sharking is just like training but is less effort and less time wasted. Who here likes training pokemon? I don't. In fact the whole game of pokemon is crap, except the battling.

Well, according to that, couldn't you say that since it is possible to find a Pokemon with Max DVs, then using a gameshark to do it would be "less effort and less time wasted"?

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Well, according to that, couldn't you say that since it is possible to find a Pokemon with Max DVs, then using a gameshark to do it would be "less effort and less time wasted"?
No. By using a gameshark to catch a max DV pokemon is wrong, simply because catching a max DV pokemon is down to chance. By using a gameshark to do this you are by-passing the luck value of the game. The difference between sharking a pokemon to level 100 is that you are merely doing something in 5 minutes which would normally take a couple of hours to do and won't actually affect the outcome of a battle as the stats would, in the end, be the same. Catching a max DV pokemon may never happen without a gamshark no matter how many hours you try because the odds are so low whereas leveling up a pokemon obviously will given time.

The bottom line is by using a gameshark to level up an already caught pokemon won't effect the outcome of a battle in a tourney whereas using one to catch a max DV pokemon obvously will.

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here here!
what about sharking dvs for certain hiddenpowers?
like a pinsir with a bug hp...... [Frown]

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posted 04-02-2002 07:53 AM      Profile for Dragonite21     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Same thing. If I ever see a goddam Zapdos with Ice/Water HP in a real life battle, I will shout loudly.
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I just played through the entirety of Pokemon Gold recently, and I was surprised by something.

It was actually fun.

You see, the reason the game seems so boring these days is because people play with the focus of ultimately making a powerful team similar to the ones commonly seen on GSBot. While making a powerful team is one of the most important factors in Pokemon, it is not the only thing.

Play to have FUN. Just casually make your way through the game, catching whatever you feel like, and just let the winds of fate carry you or something. I've come to realize that Pokemon is surprisingly relaxing if played in a fun and casual manner.

Not only that, but this may just be me, but as I level up my Pokemon more, no matter how tedious it gets, I get a bit attached to that Pokemon. Like my Sudowoodo. Right now, I'm leveling it up to 100. Previously, I liked it quite a bit, but now, it's grown on me. Quite a cool Pokemon Sudowoodo is.

That brings me to a point that riles me the most and is a persistent problem (on GSBot especially): people who don't play for fun. This is also why I think I get more out of the game than a lot of people, and why so many people get tired of Pokemon. I play with Pokemon I like (or don't mind). When I battle other people, I battle for fun. If I lose, so what? If I might win something and I lose, so what? If it was a fun battle, then it was worth the loss.

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One of these days I'm going to go through my Blue game and legitimately get me a 70-base Power HP Water Zapdos. Then I will laugh.

And my level 61 Metronome Togetic pwns j00r Sudowoodo! [Razz] Or maybe not...

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SD, I agree with you totaly. On my slver,I have a team of favorates (hitmonchan, kadabra, eevee etc) I didnt care about good move, stats and type disadvantages on my silver and as it turned out, I play silver more than gold(which holds my link-battling team)

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quote:
Originally posted by EspeonNidoking:
[QUOTE]are you even any good at GSC?

no offense, i know you rocked at RBY...but...if you plan on competing, think you'd actually stand a chance?

I didn't rock; I got lucky. And since I havn't played G/S in almost a year, I would have to say no.

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SDS, again you succeed in making me cry... That was lovely... (Not ment ironically)

And you were 100% right. Well, maybe not 100%, I mean, damn, you're training a Sudowoodo! [Eek!] [Wink]

As for the GShark thing....I actually got myself a 70-power Bug HP Marowak legitimate!!! Be proud of me people!!!

*ducks, but gets shot in the ass anyhowS*

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SDShamshel, i have just been doing virtually the same thing with Crystal. Along with falling in love with my Hydro Pump-ing Gyarados and my Gengar, i have also found out how lame Noctowl actually is. Although i can't be arsed raising a Gilgar from lv 17 to 50 just yet.

I miss the olden days [Frown]

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I have a level 100 Zapdos with Thunderbolt, Thunderwave, Drill peck, and HP Water.

Is something wrong with HP Water on Zapdos? [Confused]

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Noting that I have a 55 base HP ice on my Zapdos... but that doesn't make it _good_.

Good Hidden powers happen. Rarely. The only one worth speaking of was my 70 Ghost HP on my tyranitar.

Gamesharking tends to ruin the game.. _I_ for one enjoy the training part, even though I have little time to play now, with my job.

I honestly don't care if people gs themselves stat exp or to level 100, but it IS the DV altering that pisses me off. The next team with each pokemon having a base 70 HP that just _happens_ to perfectly match what it lacks, I will literally reach over and yank the cart from my opponent's gameboy, power still on. It'll be worth it. >=)

Cheating takes away all the competitive aspect of the game. If any game could be won by cheating, everyone'd cheat. It's not a sportive event unless cheating is disallowed.

Hense, I will narc on gamesharkers in tourneys. Even respectable ones. [Wink] I just cannot find enjoyment from a game where cheating becomes the norm. It's good to see not everyone has turned to the dark side...

And it's not like great DVs are that hard to come by. =)

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i truly hope there is going to be more national,europian and world championships this year or next,i think its time there was a new champion!!
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Why not just admit it's simply dead,and we have as much chances to get a new championship as to get a good french player?

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Legitimate HP Legendary Birds are nothing. It's the legitimate HP Legendary Dogs that are absolute crap most of the time*.

* = I have a legit 65 Water Power Raikou. But it's just a pinch too slow for my tastes. ;_; Damn my perfectionism!

...What the hell is the point of a 70 Ghost Power on a Tyranitar? Wouldn't its Crunch outdamage that on Psychics and Ghosts? (Alakazam takes a mere 10 max points more from Ghost Power; Gengar takes much more damage from Crunch.) Crunch also has that delicious chance of SD drop.

And everything that came from my Blue cartridge had Steel Power on it. ;_; I do, however, have some exceptional HP Pokémon via breeding. My pride and joy right now is my maximum Water Power Magnemite. I've also got an exceptional Flying Power Magikarp and Rock Power Heracross (which only took 15 minutes to get!). I also think a Bug Power on Aerodactyl would be fun to try; that might be my next breed, actually.
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quote:
Originally posted by PSY TRAINER:
i truly hope there is going to be more national,europian and world championships this year or next,i think its time there was a new champion!!

If only nintendo would realise pokemon's godness [Frown]

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Who knows, maybe Nintendo will stop being Jerks and have some huge GSC tourny before Advance comes out ;[

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quote:
Originally posted by Uiru:
And everything that came from my Blue cartridge had Steel Power on it. ;_;

Every single one?

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Uiru: "Now that we're all used to the rules, clauses and by-laws... what would happen to the metagame if every one of them were whipped away?"
GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
ThumbsOfSteel: "Why, because they broke the rules?"

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Why don't we all complain. Once I complained and they made the pokecenter article longer.
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I meant complaining about the pokemon tournments.
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Just on a whim I went to the pokemon.com site, its completely redone and there is A LOT of emphasis on "events" and stuff like that. Go there and see what I mean, it actually looks promising.

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I just replayed Pokčmon Yellow. Gyarados 0wnz j00 all. Mine is currently Level 100, and she r0xx0rpwn3d both Pokč (when she was level 50) and Prime cups in Stadium 1 almost unaided. [Big Grin] And my Jolteon took M2 out singlehandedly. X3

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But with the breeding element, couldn't sharking non-legendary DVs be argued as saving time? I recently Monster Brained my Ditto's defense to 15, the only DV I've ever touched. The only DVs I ever plan on doing that with is Dittos, after I find one with the right special I'll dupe it and edit. Flame me now. And I realize Ditto is harder than most to get good DVs for [Frown]

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Uiru: "Now that we're all used to the rules, clauses and by-laws... what would happen to the metagame if every one of them were whipped away?"
GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
ThumbsOfSteel: "Why, because they broke the rules?"

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Thom Burr
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quote:
Originally posted by jshadias:
...I recently Monster Brained my Ditto's defense to 15, the only DV I've ever touched. The only DVs I ever plan on doing that with is Dittos, after I find one with the right special I'll dupe it and edit. Flame me now. And I realize Ditto is harder than most to get good DVs for [Frown]

I don't know about that last statement. About three months ago, I noticed I had a Wobbuffet with 1FBF/F DVs. I bred it with a Gastly to transfer the FF DVs, and used the Gastly offspring in Yellow to run the Shiny Ditto trick. I have a bunch of 6F7F Dittos now, so I can pretty much ensure that all my "serious" pokemon for RBYGSC are going to be pretty close to max DVs.

I've read of several other people that have done this, which is not surprising, considering Meowth346 and "incompetant" were the first to report the, er, technique in the AH Research Lab. And spunman has written up a guide on how to use DV transfer to breed for Hidden Power...

Every now and then I wonder if DV-transfer Dittos don't push the line into cheating by just more than a little bit. Meowth346 seems to be be of two minds on the subject, but his comments are typically cryptic--and I haven't really ever seen a serious consideration of the subject anywhere else. I've never fiddled with a shark or played with Missingno., but in the end, I've gotten more or less the same results in just about the same amount of time, which makes me pause.

It seems like the "Shiny Ditto" trick should be completely legal, considering that it's not a painfully obvious glitch (perhaps it may even be a deliberate feature--or failing that, could be a considered to have become a feature, the way software glitches sometimes do) and simply uses the game code to make the mods that one might otherwise have to endlessly search for or simply shark instead. And since the results of DV transfer cannot be discerned by any known means from regular pokes, even if it were considered to be "unethical" (whatever that is), there would be no way possible to "stop" it.

Still, it all seems sooo easy that _something_ has got to be suspect about it. I wonder if the various new characteristics, ribbons, and personalities coming in Ru/Sa weren't designed specifically to significantly reduce the importance of DVs in the game...

[ 08-24-2002, 09:57 PM: Message edited by: Thom Burr ]

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my team on the forum is nearly the same as on my cart. my little cousin has a hp ice ampe and if a tormo comes up i'll be in it (hopefuly)

go sneaky gits!!!!

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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The shiny ditto trick is usually what it takes to stir me up from the grave. I came across DV transfer during my temporary leap into G/S where, in a quest for stats, I lived and breathed dittos. Transform seemed to have messed with ditto stats and I linked that to DVs. After reporting this, everyone exploited it as they wished.

The ethicality is another issue. Meowth346 is two faced on this because while he thinks it's illegal as a glitch, he probably feels that this is too insignificant to really worry about. Having started all of this business, I'd say it's cheating without any questions asked. It's a glitch, a very obscure glitch at that, that has been exploited to get various breeding dittos and many were hoping it would be a way to get mew without a shark. Even if the mew thing worked it would still be as a result of a glitch, a thing which has been forbidden in nintendo's tournaments.

Of course it's not really been discussed because few seem to really care about it and it's not as radical as some other glitches. I remember back during the old original nintendo tournaments, reps would go on about how you should start games over just to get more TMs and say the pokemon cloning trick was cheating. At the pokemon fun fest, they talked about missingno. like it was normal and they even asked a trivia question about it. I guess times change. I actually have caught my own breeding ditto without use of the trick, but that's just me. I have my own set of abuses of glitches that I tolerate and some that I don't, making me better than a sharker only by subjective standards.

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jshadias
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Got my Ditto, but it's not like I even plan on using it against more than one specific person, who will also benefit from my Dittos. I'm training pokes to give to him just for the purpose of having SOMEONE to compete with. If you can call it competition.

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Uiru: "Now that we're all used to the rules, clauses and by-laws... what would happen to the metagame if every one of them were whipped away?"
GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
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