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DarkPersian
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posted 09-25-2001 03:46 PM      Profile for DarkPersian   Author's Homepage   Email DarkPersian   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah yeah, I know...curiosity killed the Persian. Anyway, my curiosity question is this:

How many of you own a cell phone or have parents with cell phones that would let you use it frequently?

I'm just wondering how accurate Nintendo was when it decided to not bring over the Game Boy Mobile Adapter and let us all get together in a wireless wonderland once Crystal came out. If not many Azurians have cell phones then I'm going to guess Nintendo okay even though I do own a cell phone with lots of minutes to burn on Pokemon.


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Kasumi
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posted 09-25-2001 09:15 PM      Profile for Kasumi   Email Kasumi   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Me too...my cell is wicked expensive...do my parents care about paying? NO.
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*cell phone got ran over by a car* >.<

I'm gonna have to wait a while...


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Thom Burr
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posted 09-25-2001 09:46 PM      Profile for Thom Burr   Email Thom Burr   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm fairly certain Nintendo called it right when they axed the Mobile Adaptor. IGN reported a couple months ago (June?) that it was selling rather badly, and had only moved about 80,000 units. Comapred against the number of Crystal carts sold in Japan, the MA is a very marginal product, especially considering that there are two or three different models of it, each for a different cell network (and in the US cell networks are much more balkanized)...If they can't properly market the MA in Japan, with all their cell phones, I have trouble believing that it would do at all well here.

Furthermore, the Mobile Adaptor seems to require a central "datacenter" to host and coordinate the whole shebang, and I am unclear on how this is paid or funded. Meowth346's descriptions of how the system was supposed to work in Japan strongly suggest that the MA was not made to operate as a decentralized system.

So, between the low Japanese sales, the differing and complex US cell networks, and the apparent need to create and fund a US-based central datacenter, it seems that the MA never really had a chance here. An argument could be made that decoupling the Mobile Adaptor from the cell phone and just letting connect to a normal telephone jack would have allowed a US release of a "Sessile Adaptor"...but I don't think so. Nintendo seems to have been rushing to get Crystal out over here, and the amount of time it would have taken to reengineer the MA would have made a (relatively) early Crystal release impossible. And, of course, there would still have to be a central datacenter, which implies long-distance charges, unless the whole system was entirely moved to the Internet, which is pretty much beyond the scope of a Gameboy Color and its litle Z-80 chip. And anyway, sales levels would still be a problem--most pokemon fans are below the age of ten.

So I suspect the Mobile Adaptor simply isn't going to happen here, nor will any similar system be possible till Gamecube comes out. If they don't implement some kind of on-line battle system with Gamecube, they deserve to be shot.

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OrientalNoodle
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posted 09-26-2001 06:45 AM      Profile for OrientalNoodle   Author's Homepage   Email OrientalNoodle   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I do.

Then again, if I remember correctly, Finland has the highest "mobile phones per person" -ratio... (Over 80% of people have a mobile phone )

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DarkPersian
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posted 09-26-2001 07:58 AM      Profile for DarkPersian   Author's Homepage   Email DarkPersian   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by OrientalNoodle:
I do.

Then again, if I remember correctly, Finland has the highest "mobile phones per person" -ratio... (Over 80% of people have a mobile phone )


And I thought we were bad here in the states. I remember feeling like a freak for not having a cell phone (they have exploded in the college and post-college crowd).

If I remember right GameCube is suppose to have Internet capabilities so I agree that Nintendo really needs to make an attempt at an online game system.


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The entire Crystal Mobile Adapter sequence isn't fully translated if you crack open a ROM, so, that pretty much shows how much Nintendo cared...

Now, it still is possible, in theory. They could have it where IF a Mobile Adapter of some kind was released in America that it could add-on the unwritten mobile code, etc...

But, I would be happy (possibly happier) with a cord that connects to my computer and lets me battle online, that was the way to go and Nintendo blew it.


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posted 10-05-2001 09:50 PM      Profile for Rolken   Author's Homepage   Email Rolken   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How much they "cared"? I sure wouldn't care to translate text that never would be seen by anyone except ROM crackers...

You might be happier with a cord that connects to the computer, but the majority of eight-year-old Pokemon players either wouldn't know how to use it or wouldn't be allowed to fiddle with their daddies' computers. And since ultimately they're out to make money, they really "blew it" when they released the Mobile Adapter to begin with.

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DarkPersian
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quote:
Originally posted by Rolken:
And since ultimately they're out to make money, they really "blew it" when they released the Mobile Adapter to begin with.

Nintendo usually isn't very good at money making. Take the GameCube for example. It costs Nintendo $350 or so to make one. Yet they'll have to retail it for $200 just to get sales. That's a $150 or more loss per unit and they are hoping to sell thousands of these things.

Nintendo + Hardware = -$


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Thom Burr
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quote:
Originally posted by DarkPersian:

Nintendo usually isn't very good at money making. Take the GameCube for example. It costs Nintendo $350 or so to make one. Yet they'll have to retail it for $200 just to get sales. That's a $150 or more loss per unit and they are hoping to sell thousands of these things.

Nintendo + Hardware = -$


Ermmm, I think you're a little iffy the economics and the marketing here. Assuming your manufacturing costs are correct, it would still make a lot of sense for Nintendo to sell the first Cubes below cost. For starters, they plan to make the money back in profit on games, which is basically just software, with trivial manufacturing costs.

Second, the more Cubes that are sold, the less expensive it will be for Nintendo to make them, particularly as time goes on and the hardware is increasingly easier to procure.

Finally, Nintendo is very much playing catch-up with the Cube, and it needs to make up for a huge amount of ground lost to Sony (and guard against the future threat of Microsoft). If they bumble the Cube, they have a good chance of going the way of Sega...All of which is why they should be trying to sell as many of those things at the lowest price they can possibly manage.

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DarkPersian
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quote:
Originally posted by Thom Burr:

If they bumble the Cube, they have a good chance of going the way of Sega...All of which is why they should be trying to sell as many of those things at the lowest price they can possibly manage.


Actually the "way of Sega" is not a bad idea for Nintendo. Sega is now focused purely on software for their former competitors. The result: the first corporate profit in years for the company! You're right on the fact that software is the money.

Now Nintendo could make their money back with software...assuming the GameCube does well. Now imagine that kind of loses per unit under the situation where the GameCube did not sell well and thus not a lot of software was being sold. I'll leave Nintendo to their business and wish them well; I like them a lot better than the other game console choices, but the possible consequences are something to be considered.


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