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PKMN Master FRAZZE
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posted 07-12-2002 08:26 AM      Profile for PKMN Master FRAZZE     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's my team

Umbreon
@Leftovers
Curse
Moonlight
Shadow Ball
Body Slam

Nidoking
@Leftovers
Rest
Thunderbolt
Earthquake
Counter

Slowbro
@Mint berry
Amnesia
Thunder Wave
Psychic
Rest

Skarmory
@Leftovers
Drill Peck
Whirlwind
Steel Wing
Rest

Blissey
@Miracle berry
Heal Bell
Softboild
Double-Edge
Attract/Psych Up

Electabuzz
@Leftovers
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Barrier
Ice Punch

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What's the use of the truth if you can't tell a lie?

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Tubbers
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posted 07-12-2002 05:30 PM      Profile for Tubbers   Author's Homepage   Email Tubbers   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PKMN Master FRAZZE:
Here's my team

Umbreon
@Leftovers
Curse
Moonlight
Shadow Ball
Body Slam

Good.

Nidoking
@Leftovers
Rest
Thunderbolt
Earthquake
Counter

Good but look out a Sword danced pokemon with EQ can 1HKO him

Slowbro
@Mint berry
Amnesia
Thunder Wave
Psychic
Rest

Good again look out for a trapping Umbreon as it will destroy you

Skarmory
@Leftovers
Drill Peck
Whirlwind
Steel Wing
Rest

Standard

Blissey
@Miracle berry
Heal Bell
Softboiled
Double-Edge
Attract/Psych Up

Unless you score Psych up on a hude dmg booster drop D-edge for an elemental attack or Seismic toss and keep attract while dropping Psych up

Electabuzz
@Leftovers
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Barrier
Ice Punch

Perfect

You have a pretty well balanced team, I think it will do well, just change your Blissey 8/10

[ 07-13-2002, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: Tubbers ]

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Draco the spirit dragon
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posted 07-12-2002 06:51 PM      Profile for Draco the spirit dragon   Email Draco the spirit dragon   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i would drop rest on the Nidoking as it A) it can't take many hits and B) you will be dead by the time you wake up. the rest of your team rocks [Cool] ! except Blissy doulble edge attack, as Blissy has relly low attack but if it works use it!

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always expect the unexpected!

I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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jshadias
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posted 07-12-2002 11:54 PM      Profile for jshadias   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Minty Rest > Leftovers

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What Nintendo doesn't want you to know
Uiru: "Now that we're all used to the rules, clauses and by-laws... what would happen to the metagame if every one of them were whipped away?"
GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
ThumbsOfSteel: "Why, because they broke the rules?"

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PKMN Master FRAZZE
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posted 07-13-2002 12:06 AM      Profile for PKMN Master FRAZZE     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not going to leave Nidoking in when he is resting, I'll change to Blissey and bell rest.

I don't know any good sets for Blissey, that looks more like a Miltank set than a Blissey set.

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Tubbers
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posted 07-13-2002 12:33 AM      Profile for Tubbers   Author's Homepage   Email Tubbers   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good Blissey sets
Heal Bell Blissey
~Heal Bell
~Softboiled
~Flamethrower/Ice beam/Thunderbolt
~Seismic Toss/Attract
@Leftovers/Miracle berry

Surviving Blissey
~Reflect
~T-wave/attract
~Softboiled
~Flame-t/ice-b/t-bolt/seismic toss
@Leftovers

Attacking Blissey
~Flame-t/seismic toss
~Ice-B/seismic toss
~t-bolt/seismic toss
~Softboiled
@Leftovers

Seismic toss roxxors (always 100dmg at lvl 100 unless ghost) blissey will take out anything in 3-8 moves 3-5 on standard pokes 6 on high hp pokes (cough Snorlax Cough) 7 on none 8 on other Blisseys and thats only with seismic toss if you get super effective with an elemental attack its around 3 turns at most.

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jshadias
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posted 07-13-2002 12:52 AM      Profile for jshadias   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have found seismic toss to suck on blissey. Use Return.

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What Nintendo doesn't want you to know
Uiru: "Now that we're all used to the rules, clauses and by-laws... what would happen to the metagame if every one of them were whipped away?"
GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
ThumbsOfSteel: "Why, because they broke the rules?"

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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 07-13-2002 01:06 AM      Profile for SpunkDawg4-Life   Author's Homepage   Email SpunkDawg4-Life   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh, if you want an attacking blissey then try these sets.

Blissey@leftovers/miricleberry
sunnyday
solarbeam
flamethrower
softboiled

or you could try

Blissey@leftovers/miricleberry
raindance
thunder
surf
softboiled

(In case you did'nt know if you use raindance thunder never misses.)

Heh, i had these sets on Blissey one time...they work really well...although you may fall fast to other blisseys or cursed snorlax's. c-ya

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ThumbsOfSteel
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posted 07-13-2002 08:07 AM      Profile for ThumbsOfSteel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think he wants heal bell on blissey.

How to change your blissey:

Heal Bell
Softboiled
Curse/present
Double-edge/ice beam

Either the ones in front or the ones in back. Don't try to mix and match.

Good offensive blisseys:

Reflect/defense curl
counter
softboiled
seismic toss
@ leftovers

Kinda obvious. If you're up against a strong attacker, reflect before countering back. It will still do more than enough damage.

Double-edge
Flamethrower
Curse
Softboiled
@ leftovers

Curse up, then DE away. Flamethrower for annoying steels. once set up, this is nearly impossible to take out.

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Tubbers
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posted 07-13-2002 11:13 AM      Profile for Tubbers   Author's Homepage   Email Tubbers   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
jshadias what r u talking about use Uiru's damage counter compare 100 dmg to a Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt and tell me its worse

Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
95 damage
Burn/Freeze/Paralyze (10)
Blisseys Attack 248
Avg dmg on normal effectiveness 63

Compared to 100dmg every time

also compare to Return
102 damage
No effect
Blisseys attack 118
Avg dmg on normal effectiveness 49

I know the elemental attacks are better if its super effective, so thats why I have one of those AND seismic toss, so you can always do sufficient damage, and even with a few curses, lets say 3, the 4 turns it takes you to actually start doing damage could be your last.

Stats 3 curses 1 return 120 dmg Avg
Stats 4 seismic tosses 400 dmg Avg
Stats 4 Element attacks 252 dmg Avg 40% chance of statsus change.

even if it is six turns Seismic toss ends up doing the most damage
Stats 3 curses 3 return 360 dmg avg
Stats 6 seismic tosses 600 dmg avg
stats 6 Element attacks 378 dmg avg 60% chance of status change.

On average it takes 4 turns to kill something with seismic toss, it takes 3 turns to set up a return curse Blissey and 3 turns once cursed up to kill something and 3 turns (while cursing) is all someone needs to kill blissey with Fighting Hidden Power. you would have to curse once heal curse once heal curse once heal then attack twice heal attack twice to kill something IMO much safer to use Seismic toss and elemental attack. but if you can get it set up before the hazer comes in I think it could work.

I like Thumbs's countering blissey, it looks just like....mine.... except I have barrier on someone then BP it to her. so mine has
Blissey
~Counter
~Softboiled
~Seismic Toss/Light screen/Heal Bell
~Flamethrower
@Leftovers
Light screen FORCES them to use a psysical attack, I mean choose 368 Sp.Def with Light screen or only 118 def with barrier? flamethrower because it 1HKO's Skarmory Foretress Parasect Scyther and Scizor.

PRESENT SUCKS!
+40dmg 40%
+80dmg 20%
+120dmg 10%
-80dmg 30%
*not 100% sure on percents but as you can see you have a 10% chance of doing somewhat of big damage and 90% of doing crappy damage.

BACK ON TOPIC
PKMN master FRAZZE switch you lead to Electabuzz, I think it will do better.

[ 07-13-2002, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: Tubbers ]

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jshadias
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posted 07-13-2002 02:34 PM      Profile for jshadias   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Return just seems to work well, it always seems to do more than 100 damage. Just make sure to add in STAB. BTW, Counter+Heal Bell is illegal.

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What Nintendo doesn't want you to know
Uiru: "Now that we're all used to the rules, clauses and by-laws... what would happen to the metagame if every one of them were whipped away?"
GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
ThumbsOfSteel: "Why, because they broke the rules?"

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Tubbers
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posted 07-13-2002 02:46 PM      Profile for Tubbers   Author's Homepage   Email Tubbers   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, didn't check it but ur right i dont use Heal bell blissey it was just an option for Frazze. Return info on blissey included STAB, its not that Return is BAD it just takes longer to set up

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