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Cooltrainer Nick
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posted 07-11-2002 12:42 PM      Profile for Cooltrainer Nick   Email Cooltrainer Nick   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Fire Punch

Charizard w/Mint Berry
Belly Drum
Rest
Wing Attack
Earthquake

Lapras w/Leftovers
Whirlpool
Confuse Ray
Perish Song
Ice Beam

Jolteon w/Brightpowder
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Swagger
Curse

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock slide
Rest
Sleep Talk

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit
(Starter)

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ThumbsOfSteel
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Alakazam: Try encore over reflect or give it psychic, recover, barrier, and counter.

Charizard: I prefer swords dance over BD since Zard's survivability isn't that good. You could keep mintyrest or put Flamethrower over it with Swords dance, but mintyrest is what I'd recommend to give charizard longer to do its job.

Lapras: Sorry, but lapras does NOT make a good perish trapper. If you want perish trapping, stick with somebody who can mean look. For lapras use Surf, confuse ray, T-bolt/body slam(I recommend T-bolt), and attract with leftovers and make it female. If what you were looking for is a perish-trapper, try a Missy or Jynx.

Jolteon: CURSE?!...SWAGGER?! not good for jolteon. Give it sub and either attract or HP ice over them and attach leftovers.

Marowak: Marowak usually doesn't survive long enough to do real damage without some support or BP'd agility and SD. Give this a shot anyway though.

Umbreon: Since this is your starter, give it Mean Look, Baton Pass, Moonlight, charm/mudslap/DT/bodyslam/whatever. Attach miracleberry.

Overall: Needs some improvement. Some of the moves are just badly chosen, and your team doesn't seem to work together too well.

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jshadias
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quote:
Originally posted by Cooltrainer Nick:
Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Fire Punch
I don't know much about Kazaams... I doubt Reflect would work too well though.

Charizard w/Mint Berry
Belly Drum
Rest
Wing Attack
Earthquake
HP Flying > Wing Attack
Blissey = Free setup


Lapras w/Leftovers
Whirlpool
Confuse Ray
Perish Song
Ice Beam
Whirlpool does not work well for a Perish Trapper, stick with a Mean Looker or give it Surf and Attract over Perish Song and Whirlpool for 0wnage.

Jolteon w/Brightpowder
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Swagger
Curse
NO. Give it Agility and Baton Pass over Swagger and Curse and BP to Marowak.

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock slide
Rest
Sleep Talk
Umm... Might work, might not. Give it Swords Dance and HP Bug (Atttack and Defense DVs 13) for standard JoltWak.

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit
(Starter)
Hmmm... I have no idea how this would work. Give it a shot.
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Hawk557
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Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Fire Punch

Good, might wanna use this as a lead. Kazams pwn as leads...

Charizard w/Mint Berry
Belly Drum
Rest
Wing Attack
Earthquake

If not unreliable, good...

Lapras w/Leftovers
Whirlpool
Confuse Ray
Perish Song
Ice Beam

Gah, Lapras doesn't have the staying power to pull it off, Surf over WP, Body Slam over Perish Song.

Jolteon w/Brightpowder
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Swagger
Curse

Swaggering/Cursing Jolteon? Er, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? Substitute over Swagger, and an Ice Hidden Power over Curse...

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock slide
Rest
Sleep Talk

Good!

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit
(Starter)

Good.

It's an OK team, w/ exception being Jolteon. 8/10

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Donald
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Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Fire Punch

meeh. Standard.

Charizard w/Mint Berry
Belly Drum
Rest
Wing Attack
Earthquake

Looks like you're Item Clausing... I'd breed for Rock Slide over WA. I know, you lack STAB when that happens, but when your attack is 999, STAB won't mean as much. Plus, EQ + RS is neutral to everything.

Lapras w/Leftovers
Whirlpool
Confuse Ray
Perish Song
Ice Beam

Maybe Protect over Ice Beam for further annoyance.

Jolteon w/Brightpowder
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Swagger
Curse

Oh dear god. Just curious - is this Item Claused? Try this one - Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Bite, filler (Reflect?). It might be the best way for you to pwn Psykers.

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock slide
Rest
Sleep Talk

One of the standards.

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit
(Starter)

Decent enough...

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Cooltrainer Nick
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posted 07-12-2002 08:51 AM      Profile for Cooltrainer Nick   Email Cooltrainer Nick   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cooltrainer Nick:


Let me explain this.

Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Fire Punch
As you see Alakazam's special attack is high and is very fast. Since that is so he's my starter. Reflect raises it's defense some to stay longer. Psychic is for obvious reasons. Fire Punch completes the balance. Recover/Miracleberry are a combo as you see.

Charizard w/Mint Berry
Belly Drum
Rest
Wing Attack
Earthquake
This is a Drumzard. I only do Belly Drum on things Charizard can survive easily. Wing Attack is for STAB. All of the rest is for the obvious reasons I have.

Lapras w/Leftovers
Whirlpool
Confuse Ray
Perish Song
Ice Beam
This is the only one I reconsider taking out. Replacing this with:

Kingdra w/Leftovers
Surf
Blizzard
Rest
Sleep Talk
Surf for STAB. Blizzard is for Dragonites. Rest/Sleep Talk is for staying power. Leftovers is for extra healing while Resting.

Jolteon w/Miracle Seed
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Light Screen
HP-Grass
Thunderbolt fot STAB. Thunder Wave so Jolt is self-explanitoral. I would have chosen Reflect on him but Alakazam knows it, so I chose Light Screen to have both. HP-Grass for Rock/Ground, Quagsire, Omastar, and Kabutops'. Miracle Seed powers up HP-Grass.

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock slide
Rest
Sleep Talk
No need to.

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit
No longer my starter. I'm Toxsuffling. If you get it. Confuse Ray/Screech is a like Swaagering your opponent, but not raising your opponent's attack rating. Since I use Toxic first, this will make the opponent switch, so I use Pursuit for x2 damage.

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Tubbers
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Origanally By Cooltrainer Nick

Let me explain this.

Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Fire Punch
As you see Alakazam's special attack is high and is very fast. Since that is so he's my starter. Reflect raises it's defense some to stay longer. Psychic is for obvious reasons. Fire Punch completes the balance. Recover/Miracleberry are a combo as you see.

It's a nice set but I would consider using Barrier over Reflect, just so you dont waste a turn every five turns refreshing it and so he can use it more than once to survive a Ghost or Bug attack from a Scizor or something

Charizard w/Mint Berry
Belly Drum
Rest
Wing Attack
Earthquake
This is a Drumzard. I only do Belly Drum on things Charizard can survive easily. Wing Attack is for STAB. All of the rest is for the obvious reasons I have.

Also a nice set but losing half your hp is still risky even on weaklings if the opponent knows a rock water or electric move. I would consider using Swords Dance over it

Lapras w/Leftovers
Whirlpool
Confuse Ray
Perish Song
Ice Beam
This is the only one I reconsider taking out. Replacing this with:

Lapras is NOT a good perish trapper, they can sometimes get out of WP in two moves then switch and you wasted your time. use Surf and Thunderbolt over them

Kingdra w/Leftovers
Surf
Blizzard
Rest
Sleep Talk
Surf for STAB. Blizzard is for Dragonites. Rest/Sleep Talk is for staying power. Leftovers is for extra healing while Resting.

Blizzards accuracy SUxxORS Ice Beam over it

Jolteon w/Miracle Seed
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Light Screen
HP-Grass
Thunderbolt fot STAB. Thunder Wave so Jolt is self-explanitoral. I would have chosen Reflect on him but Alakazam knows it, so I chose Light Screen to have both. HP-Grass for Rock/Ground, Quagsire, Omastar, and Kabutops'. Miracle Seed powers up HP-Grass.

Not bad.

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock slide
Rest
Sleep Talk
No need to.

No need to what? Explain? Please do, Sleeptalk and EQ is not the greatest if they have a flyer out.. I would drop ST for HP BUG or for Swords Dance/screech

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit
No longer my starter. I'm Toxsuffling. If you get it. Confuse Ray/Screech is a like Swaagering your opponent, but not raising your opponent's attack rating. Since I use Toxic first, this will make the opponent switch, so I use Pursuit for x2 damage.

OK but Umbreon has a REALLY bad Sp.Atk Drop Pursuit for Mean Look and Screech for a Physical attack or Baton Pass. Passing a Toxiced confused Mean Looked Rummy to Marowak while he Swords Dances is great

Overall your team isn't bad pretty well Balanced, with some tweaking it could work 7/10

[ 07-12-2002, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Tubbers ]

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Cooltrainer Nick
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Here's an update:

Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Ice Punch

Charizard w/Leftovers
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Flamethrower

Kingdra w/Brightpowder
Surf
Ice Beam
Double Team
Smokescreen

Jolteon w/Miracle Seed
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Light Screen
HP-Grass

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Rest
Sleep Talk

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit

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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 07-15-2002 12:43 PM      Profile for SpunkDawg4-Life   Author's Homepage   Email SpunkDawg4-Life   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cooltrainer Nick:
Here's an update:

Alakazam w/Miracleberry
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Ice Punch

Eh, pretty good zam....drop reflect for barrier though

Charizard w/Leftovers
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Flamethrower

Eh, there is a problem here....even with leftovers you need some form of recovery with that swords dance....drop rockslide for rest and give it mintberry

Kingdra w/Brightpowder
Surf
Ice Beam
Double Team
Smokescreen

Good....although you don't need smokescreeen with that doubleteam......ever heard of Hazers?....if they use haze they then you've wasted 2 moveslots....Try rest over smokescreen and give it mintberry

Jolteon w/Miracle Seed
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Light Screen
HP-Grass

Pretty good i guess...although jolteon needs reflect more than lightscreen......or you might want to try giving Jolt substitute and let it hold leftovers

Marowak w/Thick Club
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Rest
Sleep Talk

Good

Umbreon w/Quick Claw
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Screech
Pursuit

I see the strategy here....although you might wanna give this thing leftovers.

Pretty good team but needs some work 7/10 [Wink]

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jshadias
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Psyduck ownz your a**..."Psyyyaayyy.....duck!" -Psyduck
No, this is a little better:

Koffing > Psyduck

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GP-Chan: "id probably quit every battle, and not just every other battle."
ThumbsOfSteel: "Why, because they broke the rules?"

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Cooltrainer Nick
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What does PWNS mean

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PWNS = corruption of owns.
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