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jshadias
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posted 07-03-2002 01:28 PM
I have come up with some experimental movesets, but am not sure about how well they will work. I will be substituting them for memebers of my team at least temporarily on NetBattle to test them out.
Qwilfish @ Miracle Berry
Sludge Bomb
Spikes
Attract
HP (Ground)
Raticate @ nothing
Super Fang
Double Team
Roar
Thief
DT a couple times, thief the first poke it comes too (should do well at getting leftovers from Snorlax & Blissey) and then fang and roar (what's the term?)
Misdreavus @ ?
Pain Split
Psych Up
Confuse Ray
Shadow Ball / Psychic
Not sure about last one. Should do great against curselax. Pain Split is like recover and explosion rolled into one when you have 10 hp and they have full. I have never seen anyone use pain split, I think it's potential is greatly underestimated.
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ThumbsOfSteel
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posted 07-03-2002 02:45 PM
Qwilfish: This is about the best I could come up with, except that HP ground probably won't do much to slow down electrics. I'm guessing you're going to use this on a switch-forcing team, so toxic would fit well over HP ground, or surf.
Raticate: I don't think this will work too well since you have no way to recover the HP lost while DTing and raticate doesn't have the defense to roar all that well. I'd just give it Super fang, Double edge, shadow ball (not quite sure about this) and mintyrest. Your set would be good but I don't think raticate can survive it.
Misdreavus: I agree that pain split definately has a lot of potential. However, that set won't do too well against curselax since lax has great special defense and shadow ball doesn't affect normals. I've seen Shadow ball, Pain Split, Swagger, Psych up @ leftovers somewhere here before, and I think that set could do some serious damage. If you don't like the idea of not being able to hit normals, you could put return over shadow ball (especially since most everyone has a blissey or snorlax).
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jshadias
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posted 07-03-2002 03:05 PM
Meh, forogt aobu the not hitting normals thing. Psych Up + Swagger looks like 0wnage. Qwilfish can work OK some of the time, but the other two don't work at all. The idea with Thief was to thief a leftovers, but he just plain cant take the hits to even dt.
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The Prostinator
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posted 07-03-2002 06:52 PM
Heres a really experimental moveset:
Weezing @ Miracle Berry
Pain Split
Substitute
Double Team/Swagger/Attract (female)/FireBlast
Sludge Bomb
also, if anyone could make Endure/Pain Split work I would be very impressed.
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jshadias
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posted 07-04-2002 11:49 PM
I just might have to try out Pain Split/Endure.
Pokemon that can learn both = Pokemon that can learn Pain Split = Misdreavus and... KOFFING!
Anyways, here's another one:
Corsola @ Leftovers
Ancient Power
Surf
Curse
Mirror Coat/Amnesia
Most likely Amnesia. Seems like it'd be pretty hard to kill.
One more thing: does anyone around here know who "omg wtf" is?
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Lunair
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posted 07-05-2002 05:01 PM
Corsola @ Leftovers
Ancient Power
Surf
Curse
Mirror Coat/Amnesia
This seems a bit risky, to me. Granted, once it's powered up, it'll be one mad mojo sonuva (daughteruva?) bitch, but getting there could take a while, as I see this:
1) Amnesia at least once, first (basically so Grass attacks won't munch you), then Curse once or twice, and then attack. Ancient Power should be dealing some good damage (and perhaps turning Corsola into a tank), and surf against those who are weak to it/resistant to rock.
2)Ancient Power until the RNG smiles down upon you and graces you with all stats multiplied by 1.5, then continue.
Now, the main problem I see is in the set-up time. Corsola isn't the sturdiest of pokémon; she has okay defense, okay special defense, and poor HP (85, 85, and 55, respectively). Her biggest problem will be actually surviving long enough to actually become her "inner tank" (:p), and then staying around long enough to actually do some damage. Even though she has Leftovers right now, that probably won't be enough to save her from the clutches of FNTs - remember that she'll probably be going last, if she uses Curse. I'd think that almost any pokémon would be able to get two attacks off on her at the least (after she's powered up), and possibly more; I'm not sure that poor ol' Corsola will survive those two-or-three attacks.
If you can sacrifice something, try to slap Recover on there. (I'd suggest losing Surf, but that'd make you have 5/8 PP of attacks, and no way to get rid of Fighting, Grounds, and Steels. I'd also suggest dropping Amnesia/Mirror Coat, but that'd allow Grass attacks to maul her sorry ass. So, I dunno.)
The more minor problem is that Ancient Power only has 5/8 PP, and it would take (probably) two Curses to get it and her to deal decent damage - and once those 5 or 8 PP are used up, half the benefits of Curse disappear like the fine morning mist.
Don't let me discourage you from using her, though. Get lucky with an Ancient Power or two and you'll be rockin' the house, and two Curses will give you a Snorlax-level attack with a 90-power Ancient Power (after STAB). Two more would give you a Snorlax-level attack with a 180-power Ancient Power (again, after STAB).
And anyway, Corsola is a cool pokémon.
-Lunair
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jshadias
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posted 07-07-2002 11:07 AM
For Qwilfish, I'm trying to get something on him to work off his attack, since it's higher than his Special, but I may end up just using Surf. I don't want Toxic, as Sludge Bomb has a 30% poison rate.
I have a few more, then I'm going to go test some of these.
Farfetch'd @ Scope Lens
Swords Dance
Agility
Baton Pass
Slash
He'll be my BPer for pokes who need it.
Weezing @ Focus Band
Pain Split
Endure
Sludge Bomb
Explosion
Get a nice Agility from Farfetch'd, so he can Pain Split the turn after he Endures. I have doubts he'll work well against anything but Blisseys and Snorlaxes.
Rhdon @ Leftovers
Earthquake
Curse
Rock Slide
Substitute
With sub out, he may be able to take a grass or water. Maybe not thought.
Murkrow @ Leftovers
Drill Peck
Curse
Haze
Return / Shadow Ball / Faint Attack
Shadow Ball or Faint Attack for Psychics???
Sudowoodo @ ?
Rock Slide / Self Destruct
Swagger
Psych Up
Earthquake / Self Destruct
Clefable @ Leftovers
Belly Drum / Splash
Moonlight
Return
HP (Fighting)
What idiot at Nintendo decided to allow Splash to be breeded onto Clefable???
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jshadias
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posted 07-09-2002 12:47 AM
Weezing @ Focus Band
Endure
Pain Split
Explosion
Sludge Bomb
Trial 1: Got 0wned by Lugia.
Trial 2: Did OK vs. Snorlax, but Pain Split doesn't work through Substitute. Cleaned up Snorlax good with Zard afterwards though. (Not a Curselax).
Trial 3: 0wned good by Sword Dance Venusaur.
I'm still testing...
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The Prostinator
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posted 07-11-2002 12:40 PM
quote:
Trial 1: Got 0wned by Lugia.
Trial 2: Did OK vs. Snorlax, but Pain Split doesn't work through Substitute. Cleaned up Snorlax good with Zard afterwards though. (Not a Curselax).
Trial 3: 0wned good by Sword Dance Venusaur.
in trial 2, does that mean that if weezing had a set of like Pain Split/Substitute/Sludge Bomb/HP Water or something, and he had sub up, he couldn't pain split? or did the snorlaxen have a sub up?
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jshadias
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posted 07-11-2002 06:57 PM
The Snorlax had a sub out. I'd bet money that Pain Split works while Weezing has a sub up.
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jshadias
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posted 07-11-2002 10:36 PM
Trial 4: Opponent had Venusaur. I switched to Farfetch'd and Agilitized and Swords Danced 3 times, sending my attack into overflow XD. I BPed to Weezing, and Sludge Bombed him multiple times, and messed around with endure and pain split, and eventually died.
Trial 5: Venusaur again, though different opponent. Switched to Farfetch'd, and Agilitized and Swords Danced twice. I then noticed he was fully swords danced (note: farfetch'd escaped with 30 HP cause he got trapped a whole lot with sleep powder and it took a bit, allowing venusaur free setup. So I exploded, and all was well.
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jshadias
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posted 07-12-2002 12:34 AM
Trial 6: Took on a Sneasel, than a Murkrow, and chopped Mrukrow down to a fucking 1 HP and got taken by Drill Peck!!!! I couldn't get Marowak or Weezing set up all because of a fucking Sneasel!!!
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Tubbers
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posted 07-12-2002 04:47 PM
lol...a Sneasel...you could try for HP fighting over Slash on farfeched and....toss out scope lens for a stick will ya?
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