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ThumbsOfSteel
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posted 08-15-2001 06:48 PM      Profile for ThumbsOfSteel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why won't anyone rate? Maybe I've posted too many. Gee, wish I had something else to do in my spare time. This is actually just an improved version of a team I posted earlier. Decided to throw in pokemon I like. Changed 4 from the original.

Porygon2 @miracleberry
T-wave
ice beam
double edge
recover

Might be standard. I haven't seen many of these lately so I forget. Paralyze and sweep all on it's own.

Dragonite @leftovers
Curse
extremespeed
fire blast
T-bolt

Haze-lure extraordinaire. Curse a few times, then extremespeed away. Assured two free hits on the switched in hazer(unless it's a gengar, T-bolt if it is). If something that can't haze and commonly doesn't pseudo-haze, switch. Psych-up does nothing, and they get killed.

Vaporeon @leftovers
Hydro pump
Haze
baton pass
substitute

Hydro for 1-shot on 'Wak, sub-n-pass to anyone for a much easier job.

Snorlax @mint berry
DT
Belly drum
Rest
Double edge

You can guess how this works. Just let Draggy work his magic, pass him a sub, and sit back and watch as he wipes out entire teams.

Primeape @mint berry
Cross chop
Rock HP
Psych-up
rest

Prefer him to Machamp for speed and psych up. The only reason to use Champ is for quake, any attack disadvantage is made up for by speed, and in today's curse-heavy metagame, psych-up means major sweeping power, although he's fine on his own.

Raikou @blackglasses
T-bolt
crunch
reflect
Zap cannon/ice HP

Reflect boosts the low defense, Zap cannon would be for paralysis only. Blackglasses for 2 hit KO on Missy, which is a problem for this team.

Weaknesses
Fire 0
water 0
Electric 1
grass 1
ice 1
fighting 2
poison 0
ground 1
flying 1
psychic 1
bug 0
rock 1
ghost 0
dragon 1
dark 0
steel 0

Only 10 weaknesses and 1 shared weakness. Past versions were packed with 3x weaknesses, amazing what taking out T-tar did for the weakness count. I may have a problem with perish-trappers. Psych-up, if it catches me off-guard, would hurt, but I think I'll catch that with Draggy. Trouble killing champ though(unless you count Lax).
Rates would be appreciated.

EDIT: Dropped ampharos for Raikou, changed roar on Primeape, Gave fire blast to Dragonite.

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: ThumbsOfSteel ]

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raticata
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posted 08-15-2001 07:20 PM      Profile for raticata     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A Ratissimo....

Porygon2 @miracleberry
T-wave
ice beam
double edge
recover

Ok I like this .. you rarely see a fighter starter, with ala etc, and this can affect a lot. Icebeam works well with its great sp attk, while d.edge gets stab. A wholesome poke, if there ever was one. Nice.


Dragonite @mint berry
Curse
extremespeed
rest
T-bolt

Fine - advantage of high attack, t-bolt is handy, as water types usually sport the 4* cursed icebeam/blizzard (heheh...my Pilo will enjoy this...). Anyway this look fine.


Vaporeon @leftovers
Hydro pump
Haze
baton pass
substitute

Excellent, the high-power-low-accuracy-moves are coming back in fashion heh. Haze is good, can't see any probs here.


Snorlax @mint berry
DT
Belly drum
Rest
Double edge

Risky, he can still be taken down while he teams, drums, and will go last in the turn he decides to rest. Not forgetting the opponent can still paralyze you. Have you tried this on the gsbot ??


Primeape @leftovers
Cross chop
Rock HP
Psych-up
roar

Hmmm..ponderable. Rock slide can flinch, I think, so that could be better than the HP. Apart from that, you already have him as a psycher, you have to waste a turn going last roaring it away, and 'ape is way to fragile. Leftovers won't save him.


Ampharos (F) @ leftovers
T-bolt
Fire punch
t-wave
attract

Hmm...I'm not a fan of 'tracters but I have seen them work on the gsbot. Electric/fire = fine combo.


Overall good team, and again, a team without milky/skarmo/missy !! Good work !!

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ThumbsOfSteel
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Snorlax WILL have a sub passed, so that means at least 2 DTs. Once a double rester is set up, it's practically invincible, and theoretically may still have a sub up after the setup. Psych up is the only thing I'm worried about. This is helpful as it requires an entirely different set of counters. I haven't tried it, but I plan to as soon as I get mIRC. Roar on primeape is for perish trappers and only perish trappers, as he'll kill most cursers/stat boosters before they can do much.

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posted 08-15-2001 10:42 PM      Profile for Skarmory   Email Skarmory   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
unless of course someone has this magical thing called a hazer x_x

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Primeape can't learn Roar.
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ThumbsOfSteel
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Unless of course someone has this magical thing called a hazer.

That's why dragonite's here.

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ThumbsOfSteel
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If no one will rate, I take it as meaning that they can't think of anything at all better than this, meaning a flawless team. Since that is impossible, it must mean that they can't think of anything to do to beat it/make it better.

In short, if anyone can beat this, speak up now. After all, you wouldn't want some n00b running around thinking he had an unbeatable team, would you?.

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ThumbsOfSteel
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I guess it really is unbeatable then. Cool, oh, and give the gyarados splash.

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*bump*

Rate it and I won't need them.

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Porygon2 is fine. Cursing Dragonite needs rest. There isn't much point for having substitute on Vaporeon. Or baton pass for that matter. Too much for Snorlax... Last time I checked Primeape could Rock slide I'd go with that. If you can get Ice HP on Raikou go for it.

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posted 08-24-2001 06:18 PM      Profile for Heracross20   Author's Homepage   Email Heracross20   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
fine, since ur obvisouly going crazy waiting for a rate , I thought I might go ahead.

Porygon2: This guy is fine as a starter, it might have some problem against starting foretress though.

Dragonite: Sure whatever, just to let u know though, this guy doesn't have the staying power i like to see. and besides, most teams are inducing pseudo-hazers now, and have more than one on a team.

Vaporeon: He doesn't really work to well has a baton passer, yea i realize u want to get a sub to lax, he doesn't need one. this guy needs rest.

Lax: Fire Blast or self destruct over double team, why? because curse will eat u.

Primeape: Fine I guess, he doesn't work to well as a psych upper though.

Raikou: HP Ice over zap cannon, although zap cannon could come in handy with a reflect up. U should try it on gsbot, and use what works best.

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ThumbsOfSteel
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Draggy does not need rest as he is not meant for survivability, only to find and kill their hazer. If they don't have one, then I can worry about survivability. If they do, good. I can kill it, let draggy fight to the death, then bring in vaporeon. Yes, he does need Sub-n-pass as it makes snorlax nearly impossible to beat. Confusion and counter are concerns. Primeape has rock HP because accuracy is crucial. Zap cannon is for extra Para-support, and if it is dropped, it will be for rest.

The only reason to have Draggy is to clear the way for Snorlax, who laughs at pseudo-hazers due to DT. I have nothing to fear from curse because even if haze fails, primeape can Psych up and rip large chuncks out of their team.

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You keep nagging for people to rate your team then everytime someone does you reply right after them saying how they are wrong, if you aren't going to listen to us then why bother asking for a rate? Geez, you're worse than my Dad.

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dude, if ur not going to our rates don't ask. U can laugh all u want at psuedo-hazers, but know, every move hits eventually, and say buh-bye to ur sub and double teams. that's all i have to say.

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Standard Missy puts you to shame...

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ThumbsOfSteel
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You keep nagging people to rate your team, and every time someone does reply you reply right after them telling them how they are wrong, if you aren't going to listen to us why bother asking for a rate? Geez, you're worse than my Dad.

I did that since I didn't think they quite saw through the strategy, which they probably did, and I'm just too damn stubborn. In short, I was being a dumbass. Sorry.

Standard Missy puts you to shame.

I tried throwing Raikou in to counter that. Can someone come up with sonething good. A previous version had perish trapping Jynx, and I could Mean look and take it with me, since Jynx wasn't vital to the team. I haven't tried any of this on GSbot, and still have to get mIRC, so any help would be appreciated.

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"I'm pretty sure it says in there somewhere that Iron Tailing Mewtwos are half price." -Uiru
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