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Bugcatcher Ed
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posted 01-08-2004 05:24 PM      Profile for Bugcatcher Ed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Many of you will have already worked this out. This is for anyone who hasn't.

In the Safari Zone, there are pokemon feeders in certain locations. Putting a pokeblock in the feeder attracts pokemon who like the flavor of the pokeblock. This allows you to preferentially encounter pokemon of certain natures. Beside the obvious use in obtaining pokemon for specific contests, you can also get a pokemon whose nature enhances a specified statistic. There are groups of pokemon with the same statistic enhanced, and the same flavor preference (in the table below, bold means enhanced/prefered, italic means reduced/disliked. Information is from [URL=http://user.yagb.de/meowth346/rs/personality/ ]Pokemon Forever[/URL] ):

Hardy Att/Att Spicy/Spicy
Lonely Att/Def Spicy/Sour
Brave Att/Speed Spicy/Sweet
Adamant Att/Sp Att Spicy/Dry
Naughty Att/Sp Def Spicy/Bitter

Bold Def/Att Sour/Spicy
Docile Def/Def Sour/Sour
Relaxed Def/Speed Sour/Sweet
Impish Def/Sp Att Sour/Dry
Lax Def/Sp Def Sour/Bitter

Timid Speed/Att Sweet/Spicy
Hasty Speed/Def Sweet/Sour
Serious Speed/Speed Sweet/Sweet
Jolly Speed/Sp Att Sweet/Dry
Naive Speed/Sp Def Sweet/Bitter

Modest Sp Att/Att Dry/Spicy
Mild Sp Att/Def Dry/Sour
Quiet Sp Att/Speed Dry/Sweet
Bashful Sp Att/Sp Att Dry/Dry
Rash Sp Att/Sp Def Dry/Bitter

Calm Sp Def/Att Bitter/Spicy
Gentle Sp Def/Def Bitter/Sour
Sassy Sp Def/Speed Bitter/Sweet
Careful Sp Def/Sp Att Bitter/Dry
Quirky Sp Def/Sp Def Bitter/Bitter

This means that certain flavors equate to certain stats:

Spicy = Att
Sour = Def
Sweet = Speed
Dry = Sp. Att
Bitter = Sp. Def

Thus, a pokemon which likes spicy pokeblocks will have an enhanced ATT. One that dislikes spicy pokeblocks will have a reduced ATT. So, if you want a pokemon with enhanced ATT, put a spicy pokeblock in a feeder in an area where the pokemon you're looking for can be found. Wander around the feeder, periodically checking to make sure the bait hasn't been stolen. When you encounter the pokemon you want, throw another spicy pokeblock at it. If the pokemon likes spicy, it will be enthralled by the flavor. It will be less likely to flee.

Multiple-flavor blocks may also be used. For example, to capture a "blitz pikachu", I'd use a dry-sweet pokeblock. The pikachu attracted will have either enhanced Sp. Att or enhanced Speed, and will not have either statistic reduced.

Hope this helps someone.

1/21/04 Corrected associations per White Cat
1/29/04 Corrected a few errors in associations, per White Cat

[ 01-28-2004, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: Bugcatcher Ed ]

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cool thanks for the info
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I'm just not sure how many Safari Zone Pokemon people will want to go to this much trouble for.
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Good work.

I'm pretty sure that some of the matchups are wrong, though. They should be:
code:
Stat Boost  Flavour  Colour  Contest Stat
---------- ------- ------ ------------
Attack Spicy Red Cool
Defense Sour Yellow Tough
Sp. Att Dry Blue Beauty
Sp. Def Bitter Green Smart
Speed Sweet Pink Cute


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I'll double-check, although it may not be 'til next week.
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Hi White Cat,

Where are you getting your info? I'm drawing from Pokemon Forever, and there it looks like Dry=Def, Bitter = Sp. Att and Sour = Sp. Def. I hope this isn't wrong, as I've been making game decisions based on it. I trust Meowth346, but anyone can make a mistake.

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Yeah, I've ICQ'd Meowth about that, but he hasn't responded. I'm 99.6% sure that I'm right; I had a Feebas with a SpAtt-boosting personality, and it liked Dry/Blue Pokeblocks that raised Beauty.

To make sure, I'll test the whole lot of them at my earliest convenience.

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quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
I'm 99.6% sure that I'm right;

I lolled.

Anyway, really good to know this, at least it makes non breeding way easier. ^^

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Okay, I re-tested it on a bus trip. <-- geek

Pokemon with an Attack boost "happily" eat Spicy/Red Pokeblocks that raise Cool.
Pokemon with a Defense boost "happily" eat Sour/Yellow Pokeblocks that raise Tough.
Pokemon with a Special Attack boost "happily" eat Dry/Blue Pokeblocks that raise Beauty.
Pokemon with a Special Defense boost "happily" eat Bitter/Green Pokeblocks that raise Smart.
Pokemon with a Speed boost "happily" eat Sweet/Pink Pokeblocks that raise Cute.

Also, Pokemon with a stat reduction ate the Pokeblocks "distainfully" in the same pattern.

White Cat one, Meowth346 eighty-seven!

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Thanks, White Cat, I've changed it accordingly. Also, you do yourself an injustice calling yourself a geek. That was not a geek thing to do. Geeks bite heads off chickens in freak shows. Pokemon research on or off a bus is a nerd thing to do. And anyone reading this forum, much less posting to it, is doing the nerd thing. Three cheers for nerds!

[ 01-21-2004, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Bugcatcher Ed ]

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I've played Pokemon on the bus plenty of times before, but this was the first time I did research there. I felt mildly embarrassed to be constantly checking the printout of my personality chart and marking off which ones I'd confirmed.

I've always considered "geek" and "nerd" to mean pretty much the same thing.

also this thread

Bugcatcher Edit: There's a couple errors in the updated list.
- Group 1, Line 3: "Dry" should be "Spicy"
- Group 5, Line 2: "Tough" should be "Sour"
- Group 5, Line 5: The last "Bitter" should be in italics, not bold

[ 01-28-2004, 06:54 AM: Message edited by: White Cat ]

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Thanks again, White Cat, I can't proof my own stuff worth a darn, 'cause I know what it's supposed to say.

As to the difference in meaning between geek and nerd (a truly nerdish thing to be discussing), a geek is like a nerd without the brain-power or intellectual obsessions. Only a nerd perceives another nerd as cool, but even that would be an improvement for a geek. I agree that a lot of people use them the same way. To people who dislike nerds, the difference is probably inconsequential. They'd say that a geek with brains is just a more annoying geek. But the difference is important to me. I value the subtle distinctions between words like nerd, geek, dweeb and dork. You can see both your definition and mine at Urban Dictionary: Geek, I'm just resisting the inevitable in regarding nerd as the more positive term.

If I was going to define them, it would be:

Geek: a clumsy, socially awkward, often stupid person who does bizarre things. Especially one who does bizarre things for a living because of an inability to do anything more pleasant.

Nerd: a clumsy, socially awkward, but bright person, with a tendency toward intellectual obsessions. Many nerds suffer from a learning disorder, dyspraxia, which affects their ability to learn and generalize physical skills, among other things. Perhaps as part of their social awkwardness, nerds tend not to care about fashion, and are mocked as often for taped glasses and pencil holders as for clumsiness, social awkwardness and braininess. Because of their clumsiness, nerds tend to be physically unfit, and are stereotypically either skinny or fat.

So, I think too much about these things.

[ 01-28-2004, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Bugcatcher Ed ]

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