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Tenshi no Myu
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posted 07-28-2003 03:51 PM      Profile for Tenshi no Myu   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So what do they boost, exactly? Do they give a bonus towards the max possible stat of a poke, regardless of its genes?

Like if my poke's species' max stat was 200, but its individual genes topped it off at 185, could having a positive personality get it higher?

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Yes regardless of what your base stats are, if you have a Personality which is listed under Nature like Adamant, Modest, and Lax those are examples of Bonus Personalities. You have the full list I wrote out for you on another topic [Smile]

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All bonus personalities give a 10% boost in one stat while lowering another by 10%. This us unlike the boosting items, in that they only boost the base power of a move. Fire Blast becomes 132 base power and all that jazz. The personalities modify the stats directly, so they get magnified in damage calculation. With some pokemon, though, it's best to have a "neutral" personality, increasing the same stat it decreases.

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http://www.angelfire.com/games2/LanderZ/rusacalcs.html

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Tenshi no Myu
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posted 08-18-2003 01:13 PM      Profile for Tenshi no Myu   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was thinking recently on the best way to allocate my EVs. Right now, I'm using 5 Vitamins for each stat, with 10 vitamins + 155 battle EVs for the Personality +Stat, & allocating excess EVs to HP.

Or is the best way to use EVs to *not* put them in the +Stat?
I like balance, and don't want to neglect the 5 Vitamin minimum per stat, but if those 155 EVs can be put somewhere better I'd appreciate any advice [Smile]

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posted 08-18-2003 01:32 PM      Profile for TIDUSBLITZABESX   Author's Homepage   Email TIDUSBLITZABESX   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey Tenshi, well I was just curious. Does it work better when you give 5 vitamins a piece instead of the full 10 a piece while also collecting EVs with a Macho Brace? Uiru told me that he raises only two of his stats and avoids using any more vitamins after that. He said that way he can get the extra bonus or something at the end??

Im not really sure ifi your theory will work or not, I would just go ahead and try it and see what happens. I was just told to focus on the two stats I really wanted to build.

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Tenshi, it really matters what you're going for. It's gotta be a case by case basis, because no general rule is gonna work for everybody. Like, if you put 5 vitamins into each stat, and you're raising a Lanturn, you just wasted 5 Proteins and 50 EPs. It depends on the pokemon's stats, its personality, and what you're gonna do with it (moveset). Unless its attack stats are already decent and fit the moveset, I usually boost whichever attack I'll be using, and then HP.
Like, my Hariyama's moveset needed Speed to work well. So I bred for a Jolly (+Speed -SpAtt) one with max speed gene. Then I trained for Speed and HP (cause I wanted to Belly Drum).
But with my Torkoal, I saw that his SpDef wouldn't naturally be quite as high as his Defense, and his Speed was gonna be shit no matter what. So, he's Sassy (+SpDef -Speed), and I trained him for SpDef, and HP I think, but maybe it was SpAtt. Then I slapped a Quick Claw on him.
If you really are going for balance, though, I wouldn't drop the vitamins into the boosted stat.

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posted 08-18-2003 03:02 PM      Profile for Tenshi no Myu   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I *do* want to take full advantage of the boosted stat. Personality + Evs can really make a big difference.

For a poke like Torkoal; yah, I wouldn't waste vitamins on its Spd, same for Lanturn and Atk.

But generally speaking, I'd like to use a minimum 5 vitamins on any decent, non-boosted stat. Stats that are going to be ignored will have their share put into something else, like HP.

But I heard that some people are ignoring the boosted stat, and putting EVs into other stats, depending on the Personality alone to help. I wasn't sure if that was a good idea <_<

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Hmmm... I'd have to say that it depends. Many pokemon don't benefit from a balanced approach. If the personality suits the pokemon, you may well want to push the +EV, e.g. aim for the highest special attack an alakazam can have. Or if the +EV isn't critical to your pokemon's development, you may want to deliberately neglect it, e.g. your geodude gets a + in HP, you may want to leave HP alone, and concentrate on other characteristics. Of course, sometimes it's fun to go counter the obvious. When your lonely alakazam uses it's hyperbeam on your opponent, the damage its 218 attack causes will not be impressively high in the grand scheme of things, but it'll certainly not be what your opponent is expecting!
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How in the hell do you get a + in HP?

And just a few random comments:

252 EV in the + stat = 69-70 points added to stat total
252 EV in a ~ stat = 63 points added to stat total
252 EV in the - stat = 56-57 points added to stat total

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There are no +s in HP. I was just being silly, since it was a hypothetical example.
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Those point bonuses are then added to the 10% Personality bonus, so the total points you get are even higher, right?

Neat-o ^.^

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Well whenever I saved the game and kept choosing a starter to get the personality I wanted in the beginning of the game, the Hp kept changing. I am not sure if that was from the personality or from it's base stats. The hp could of been from a range of 19 to 21 for any one of the starter pokemon at level 5. So is it certain that personality doesn't effect the HP value? Probably was in fact just IVs and nothing to do with the personality, just curious.

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IVs
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IV, the HP IV is no longer calculated.

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How you balance/re-arrange your EV's indeed depends on the pokemon itself and it's moveset. Here an example:

I'm using an Alakazam, I want him to be all powerful. Well, Attack would be stupid to put EV's in, so that's why I also take an +SpAtt -Att (Modest). We all know that Ala doesn't really has good defenses, so putting EV's in their won't really work (although 63 stat points can help a lot). So, what I did, is putting enough EV's in SpAtt en Speed (you'll want him to go first right?). And there you have it, an Alakazam with 405 Special Attack. And with Calm Mind, he's unstopable in a way that he'll pack quit a punch before he dies. Purrrfect. [Big Grin]

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We all know that Ala doesn't really has good defenses, so putting EV's in their won't really work

No way! Weak defensive stats is where a Pokemon needs Effort the most. Let's look at the average damage Kazam takes from a 299 Attack enemy using a 100 power attack, with STAB or type modifiers:

Full HP, full Def effort: 39.49%
Full HP, no Def effort: 59.24%
No HP, full Def effort: 49.40%
No HP, no Def effort: 74.10%

By contrast, here's the average damage Kazam deals to a 404 HP, 299 SpDef enemy with a 100 power attack (again, no modifiers):

Full SpAtt effort: 24.01%
No SpAtt effort: 19.80%

As you can see, putting your effort into SpAtt boosts the damage dealt by less than 5%, while putting it into HP or Defense reduces damage taken by 15% or 25%, respectively.

Note that although Defense effort reduces the damage more than HP effort, HP has the benefit of reducing damage from both physical and special attacks. Therefore, deciding whether to put your effort into HP or Def/SpDef should depend on which type of attacks you expect to be hit by.

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I know it's really difficult for most Pokemon to think of a good working EV split, it depends on what your up against and of course, experience. I wouldn't like to get toasted by a quicker Alakazam. [Smile]

Anyway, I use this starterZam:

Alakazam @Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
Nature: Timid (-Att, +Spe)
EV's: 252 in Speed and SpAtt, 4 in HP.
Psychic_Hidden Power Dark_Fire Punch_Ice Punch

Pwnz, 'nuff said. =/

He will die soon, that's correct, but I don't see why you should put some EV's in Defense, he needs the Speed and the Special Attack, since Alakazam is pretty populair now (that's one of the reasons I have Ninjask. [Roll Eyes] ).

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