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PikachuThunder
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posted 05-17-2003 08:53 PM      Profile for PikachuThunder        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A member of my home board said that she noticed her Swellow had a little 2x2pixel box between the type of Pokéball she used and Swellow's level. She also found that three other Pokémon had the dot and she didn't know what it was. I didn't know for sure and thought it might have indicated that the Pokémon had gotten over Pokérus (I searched for documentation to make sure but I could not locate any.) She said that might have been it, but she didn't even notice that they had it. (It's possible she missed the nurse telling her about it.)

So anyway, is this dot indicative of having had Pokérus or not?

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Donald
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posted 05-17-2003 09:23 PM      Profile for Donald   Email Donald      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Since Pokerus is indicated as a status on the screen, I doubt that'd be it.

I lost all my Pokerus victims to a restart, so I can't check either way.

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Haruka
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posted 05-17-2003 11:43 PM      Profile for Haruka   Email Haruka   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That dot indeed means your Pokémon has had and gotten over Pokérus. It's now immune to it as well.
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posted 05-19-2003 04:26 AM      Profile for MK     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In GSC, even though you were PokéRus immune, with the dot you still got the bonus stat experience gain... My guess is the same still holds true in Ruby and Sapphire...
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posted 05-19-2003 03:34 PM      Profile for Team Rocket Elite     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's completely unrelated to Pokerus. I checked a couple of my Pokémon that have gotten over Pokérus. None of them have the dot. Also in RS your Pokémon DOESN'T become immune to Pokérus. It can catch it again and again. This probably means that Pokérus only works when you actually have it now.
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PikachuThunder
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posted 05-19-2003 04:16 PM      Profile for PikachuThunder        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Team Rocket Elite:
It's completely unrelated to Pokerus. I checked a couple of my Pokémon that have gotten over Pokérus. None of them have the dot. Also in RS your Pokémon DOESN'T become immune to Pokérus. It can catch it again and again. This probably means that Pokérus only works when you actually have it now.

Hmmm... OK, then. Thanks.

So, any idea what it's for?

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Haruka
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Weird..'cause all the Pokémon that have had Pokérus on mine have the dot after it's gone and haven't been able to recatch it.
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posted 05-19-2003 11:07 PM      Profile for MK     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that the dot really does come from having "gotten over" the Pokérus, maybe your Pokémon that don't have the dots never got the Pokérus in the first place. Maybe you turned the game off without saving, etc...

My friend who had the Pokérus I think his pokes now have dots...

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posted 05-19-2003 11:37 PM      Profile for Team Rocket Elite     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nope. I am currently training a Vigoroth. Yesterday, I hatched a Slakoth, infected it with Pokérus, attached a Macho Brace and maxed out its EV. Trained it to Lv50, smashed the Battle Tower for a ribbon. Then trained to Lv57. Also none of the Pokémon I have trained(all have had Pokérus at one point) have a dot. My Blaziken has been infected with Pokérus well over 7 times. So I doubt it has anything to do with Pokérus.
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Haruka
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posted 05-20-2003 01:00 AM      Profile for Haruka   Email Haruka   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not to linsult or anything, but you ARE looking in the right spot for the dot..right? Right next to it's level?


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Uiru
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posted 05-20-2003 04:01 AM      Profile for Uiru   Author's Homepage   Email Uiru   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had no idea Sakura was a boy's name...

...and a Modest female Synchronize shiny Guardevoir? Nice. [Razz]

Oh, and I have a Kirlia in my Sapphire game from my Ruby game, but it doesn't say that it was recieved in a trade.
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Barrierd
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posted 05-20-2003 05:18 AM      Profile for Barrierd   Email Barrierd   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is it possible that Pokemon, after getting PokeRus, randomly develop an immunity to it? If so, it could explain some things (except for the thing about getting a dot seemingly without getting PokeRus).

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veloS
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posted 05-20-2003 06:18 AM      Profile for veloS     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Obtained in a trade means that that's a sharked pokemon. Due to the secret ID, whenever you trade a sharked PKMN to another game, the game will know, and say obtained in a trade.

Go away, you R a sharker.

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Uiru
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posted 05-20-2003 03:24 PM      Profile for Uiru   Author's Homepage   Email Uiru   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But to easily get such a screenshot implies an emulator, which means they can't battle people, which means they can more or less shark to their heart's content. They aren't ruining the game for anyone else, they're just ruining it for themselves.

But wait, it was traded... Where DID that screenshot come from?
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Mr.E
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posted 05-20-2003 04:50 PM      Profile for Mr.E     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire, presumably.

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Haruka
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posted 05-20-2003 05:47 PM      Profile for Haruka   Email Haruka   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, that did indeed come from an emulator.

"Obtained in a trade" is one of the many unobtainable "caught" locations, like "Inside Truck" "Secret Base" etc.

I guess "obtained in a trade" might be what appears on PCNY Pokémon..[EDIT] Duh, I forgot. It's for Pokémon you get from in-game trades.

Actually, altering a Pokémon's secret ID won't effect if it says it's caught location or not. Just so long as the OT name and ID match yours.



I won't try to justify myself of such obvious cheating. I have redeeming qualities on Pokémon but eh, hate me if you want, I don't care. The topic was bout Pokérus wasn't it? Can't anyone confirm the "dot" or not?

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Not to linsult or anything, but you ARE looking in the right spot for the dot..right? Right next to it's level?

Yep. I'm looking in the right spot. No dot.

Is it possible that Pokemon, after getting PokeRus, randomly develop an immunity to it? If so, it could explain some things (except for the thing about getting a dot seemingly without getting PokeRus).

Well, I've infected 20-30 Pokémon with it so far, none have developed a dot. My Blaziken has had Pok3rus a couple times already. No dot.

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veloS
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Believe me, I have a lot of friends who shark for the sake of research (using codebreaker, GShark sucks). And eventhough the ID was exactly the same (Number and name) the pokey still got boosted experience, and we couldn't change their name. But, even more funny is the fact that once traded, it said "Obtained in a trade".

It has to do something with the secret ID. Nintendo'll be able to see if you have a sharked pokey. We just can't seem to find that which make them just like legal pokeys.... [Frown]

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posted 05-21-2003 08:27 AM      Profile for LanderZRPG   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Having troubles trying to cheat, fairly?

You could be working on that one, for a long time.

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pika
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posted 05-21-2003 11:51 AM      Profile for pika   Author's Homepage   Email pika   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay so I'll tell you the pokedata again

[PokemonMap][Complete Id of catcher][varios other unencryptes stuff such as the nickname of the guy who got it first and marikngs] 0000 [CHECKSUM - unencrypted] [Encrypded Part (evs, moves, species, place obtained, ribbons, pokerus active etc]

Ehe encryptet part is XORed using [PokemonMap] XOR [Complete Id of catcher] as a key. Ithe order of the data depends on the sum of the Pokemonmap say its 1111112 sum = 7.

It case it interests you play around with that data at my page (using a java applet) - http://www.neo-dragon.de/pokeguide/poked/

and i prefer shark - but that's a different story.

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posted 05-21-2003 12:05 PM      Profile for JP Nogueira   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My pokés have the dot too, but all of them have been "sick" with Pokérus. None of them became infected again (the status PKRS appearing in the menu screen), even battling together with "sick" ones.

By now, pokérus seems the same one from GSC: when infected, there is the status "PKRS", but some time later, there is the little dot next like in the snapshot from Haruka's answer. It cannot infect other pokés anymore, but still has the effort bonus.

And it works the same way for everyone of my friends here (none of them has Gameshark for GBA).

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quote:
Originally posted by LanderZRPG:
Having troubles trying to cheat, fairly?

You could be working on that one, for a long time.

No, I don't even own a device.

I DO want to find out what makes a pokey legitimate and what not, to spot cheaters with ease.

Hell, I even borrowed a friend's Sapphire just to get balls and TM's legal. Don't you be calling me a sharker [Frown] [Mad] [Wink] ; I'm over 200 hours, my friend.

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My pokés have the dot too, but all of them have been "sick" with Pokérus. None of them became infected again (the status PKRS appearing in the menu screen), even battling together with "sick" ones.

By now, pokérus seems the same one from GSC: when infected, there is the status "PKRS", but some time later, there is the little dot next like in the snapshot from Haruka's answer. It cannot infect other pokés anymore, but still has the effort bonus.

And it works the same way for everyone of my friends here (none of them has Gameshark for GBA).


Then why do none of my Pokémon have a dot? I've infected a large number of my Pokémon with Pokérus, not a single one has a dot. Also my Blaziken has been infected more than once.

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In Ruby and Sapphire, it seems two things happen after a Pokémon has had the Pokérus

*It gets a dot, meaning it is now immunue to the disease and will not catch it again

or

*It gets rid of the Pokérus status, and does NOT get a dot, meaning it can become re-infected...

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JP Nogueira
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quote:
Then why do none of my Pokémon have a dot? I've infected a large number of my Pokémon with Pokérus, not a single one has a dot. Also my Blaziken has been infected more than once.

I would like to know the reason too. [Frown]

I´ve also infected a large number of my pokémon (at least 20 trained for battles), and those who don't have the "PKRS" status, have the dot [Frown]

Maybe your cartridge has a glitch. [Frown]
Did you use GS to obtain pokérus?

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I got Pokérus normally, not with a GS.
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posted 05-23-2003 09:05 AM      Profile for pika   Author's Homepage   Email pika   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
now ppl - could we put the sharking topic aside? It should not really matter as far as the dot is concerned.

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quote:
Originally posted by pika:
now ppl - could we put the sharking topic aside? It should not really matter as far as the dot is concerned.

Jumping to conclusions is the predominant form of excercise here.
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posted 05-23-2003 12:19 PM      Profile for pika   Author's Homepage   Email pika   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
well my point is this: a sharked pokerus-pokemon will look exactly the same as a non sharked one. For sharking to make any difference the game would have to know if the pokerus was sharked (and I won't be able to tell if they look exactly the same data wise). It's way more likely caused by something else.

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posted 05-24-2003 02:32 AM      Profile for JP Nogueira   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So... Could his cart be glitchy?

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Well it could be a cart glitch or it could be a random occurance, but I think it's more likely a glitchy cart because it seems to be 100% either way. If there's any of you who have both Pokemon that got the dot and Pokemon that didn't (but got over Pokerus) on the same cart, let us know!
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I tried Sharking for Pokérus and got my dots.

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