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Atma
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posted 04-19-2002 11:59 PM      Profile for Atma   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been eharing different things about Rollout -- some say it maxes out at 255 (which I think is correct), while others say 480... and if that 480 figure is correct...

With six curses and six Tail Whips, Blissey's fifth-turn (480 power) Rollout OHKOs the 498-Def, *.25 resistant Steelix just over half the time [Eek!]
Max damage is 384, average damage 355, minimum damage 326.

And if you think the 255 figure is correct, tell fanha, as the GSboits are currently set to 480.

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posted 04-20-2002 12:43 AM      Profile for EspeonNidoking   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
lol tail whip blissey pwnz!

nice find

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Jolt135
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posted 04-20-2002 09:18 AM      Profile for Jolt135   Author's Homepage   Email Jolt135   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My damage calculator says 211-249 damage, nowhere near the kill. That's because of the 999 cap.

All figures were taken from version 3.76 of PKUtility, which should now be flawless.

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Cesar
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posted 04-20-2002 03:02 PM      Profile for Cesar   Email Cesar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm pretty sure its 480. If you where to take 255 and keep dividing it by two, you would keep getting decimals.

Beautiful find. Too bad Shuckle doesn't learn tail whip [Big Grin]

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posted 04-21-2002 08:48 AM      Profile for Jolt135   Author's Homepage   Email Jolt135   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
By testing the move with Shuckle against a Steelix, I have confirmed that Rollout peaks at 480.

But in this case, the damage exceeds 999 before type multipliers are introduced, so it is set to 999, and then the "/ 4" is taken, for a final total of 249.

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posted 04-21-2002 02:21 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Magcargo with 6 defense curls + 6 curses + defense curl roXoRz jer asses.
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posted 04-22-2002 01:42 AM      Profile for Mr.E     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Water Gun Donphan > Rollout Magcargo

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posted 04-22-2002 11:37 AM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Earth Quake Donphan > rollout Magcargo
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posted 04-22-2002 02:59 PM      Profile for Mister Cant   Email Mister Cant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Please tell me how to DCurl 6 times THEN curse.
Or the other way around.

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posted 04-22-2002 06:42 PM      Profile for LanderZRPG   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax:
Magcargo with 6 defense curls + 6 curses + defense curl roXoRz jer asses.

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.E:
Water Gun Donphan > Rollout Magcargo

From what I saw, he's using 6 Defense Curls, 6 curses, then another Defense curl; No rollout at all. How this is supposed to beat anything, I'll never know.

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Originally posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax:
Earth Quake Donphan > rollout Magcargo

Hence why Quagsire so rules this guy; Water AND Ground are both 4x effective vs him. Sort of like Charizard to Parasect.

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Tell me one person who can use Curse 6x...
That works only agains n00bies.

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posted 04-24-2002 06:44 PM      Profile for Pinsir_sama   Email Pinsir_sama   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
exactly. there is a problem with time. what can ruin thyn plan is
a. switch to hazer
b. take your @$$ down before you can.

also, a blissy with
rollout
tailwhip
curse
softboiled
why waste it when you could have a healbellera?

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posted 04-24-2002 07:47 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Magcargo which uses Defense Curl 6 times and then uses Curse six times will have an attack of about 800 and will be using a stabbed attack with starting attack value of 60 > 120 > 240 > 480 < 960. so yeah, he RoCkZorz. and um.. "duh" about the whole double 4x weakness thing guys..
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posted 04-25-2002 07:10 PM      Profile for Pinsir_sama   Email Pinsir_sama   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
10k, no offense, but in twelve turns, not one person would
(a) switch in a water type poke?
(b) hazer you?
(c) roar you?
(d) put your fugly macargo to sleep?

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posted 04-25-2002 09:51 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...and that stops him from RoxOring how??
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Pinsir_sama
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posted 04-26-2002 03:52 PM      Profile for Pinsir_sama   Email Pinsir_sama   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
the fact that it could never be setup pretty much sums it up.

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posted 04-26-2002 03:55 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
wrong! 'cargo roxorz
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quote:
Originally posted by Mister Cant:
Please tell me how to DCurl 6 times THEN curse.
Or the other way around.

I believe that as long as its attack can be raised it will still be able to curse. I know for sure that a Poke can still use curse even if its speed is bottomed out. Otherwise you'd be able to prevent something from cursing all the way up with Scary Face. I'm assuming it's the same with attack/defense, but I'll do further testing.

A brief test using Swagger and the Slowpokes at Slowpoke Well shows that curse continues to raise/drop stats even after one is maxed out. So as long as the D-curls come first it will work.

[ 04-26-2002, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: Kiseiju ]

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