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10,000Lb.Snorlax
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posted 04-18-2002 08:58 AM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone know the formula? Where I could find it? Is it different for each species pokemon?
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posted 04-18-2002 11:10 AM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
answered my own question::

Stat Value = -30 + 2( stat DV ) + Max Stat @ level for particular species of pokemon

example:

Snorlax level 100 with Attack DV 9

Attack = -30 + 2( 9 ) + 318
Attack = 306

To figure it out for different level pokes, just add the max stat value at that level....

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posted 04-18-2002 02:11 PM      Profile for mleo2003   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That works, but the actuall, in game formula can be found here on Meowth346's website. For it, all you need is Level, DV, Base Stat, and Effort Level for non-Wild Pokemon. It works very nicely.

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posted 04-18-2002 08:30 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thanks! man, they make the underlying structure a bit tough to put together, but after it gets figured out, the actual implementation is cake. I'll play around with this a bit.
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posted 04-24-2002 07:51 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The minimum stats a pokemon can have is 5 for all stats other than hps, and 10 for hps, (according to the skill-stat finder). Is this true? When a level 1 pichu hatches are all of the stats 5 and does it have 10 hps? I'm pretty sure the formula yields neagtive values in some cases if not...
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posted 04-30-2002 12:06 AM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm a bit stuck on how to determine "effort Levels" / stat experience levels, when a pokemon's other stats and Dv's are known.

The formula *should* be :

AttEffortLevel = ((maxPersonalAtt - baseValueAtt * level/50 - 5 - attDV * level/50 ) * 100 ) /level;

maybe I'm implementing it wrong??
or maybe I'm thinking about it wrong (It's late and I'm tired [Embarrassed] ). All I want to be able to do is::

-Determine effort levels (stat experience) from a pokemon with certain given Dvs and statistics (att, def, spd, specials, hps).

-What am I doing wrong here
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posted 04-30-2002 08:04 AM      Profile for Mu   Author's Homepage   Email Mu   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax:
The minimum stats a pokemon can have is 5 for all stats other than hps, and 10 for hps, (according to the skill-stat finder). Is this true? When a level 1 pichu hatches are all of the stats 5 and does it have 10 hps? I'm pretty sure the formula yields neagtive values in some cases if not...

No that is not true.
Level 2 Rattatas for example generally have about 2 or 3 in stats.

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[Confused] [Confused]

how is it possible to have below 5 in any stat or below 10 in hitpoints?

The formula apparently used in the game is:

att = baseValueAtt * lvl/50 + 5 + getAttDV() * lvl/50 + effortLevelAtt * lvl/100;

hps = baseValueHps * lvl/50 + lvl + 10 + getHpsDV() * lvl/50 + effortLevelHps * lvl/100;

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.. these formulas make it impossible to get lower than 5 or 10.

you can catch ratata's with sub-5 stats?

From what I've tested, using this formula, it's impossible to go below 5, even with Dvs of 0 and level 0 due to the +5 added on to stats, and +10 to hitpoints....

I tested this formula on level 0 ratatas with Dvs of 0, and it yielded stats of 5 or higher in all areas.

Are you sure you've seen pokemon with smaller stat values??? If so, where? it means I'll need a new formula...

Maybe the +5 and +10 are ommited for pokemon under a certain level when determining stats?????

So does this mean that the lowest limit for any stat is 5 (10 for hps)? This formula seems to make it seem so.....

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posted 04-30-2002 07:49 PM      Profile for Mu   Author's Homepage   Email Mu   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hrm, shows how long I haven't played Pokemon for - My memory was patchy and so I went back and caught a level 2 Rattata and it did indeed have over 5.

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posted 04-30-2002 08:35 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
yeah, I just did the same thing.. kinda interesting that every pokemon will probably have the same stats at level 1 (although hps might vary).

I to have not played for a while. All this "delving into the mechanics of pokemon" (mosty catching up on the research everyone else did years ago) that i've been doing recently has yielded zero time for actual playing of the game -- how ironic!

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