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Lark84
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posted 09-27-2001 02:38 PM      Profile for Lark84     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've gotten to the Stat Exp formula in my calc program, and it's giving me quite a headache.

This is the formula from Marcus Majarra's site:

SE = 64(50 x SP ÷ Level)2 - 16(50 x SP ÷ Level) + 2

It's supposed to calculate how many Stat Exp points (SE) I need to gain in order to grow a specific number of stat points (SP).

When I enter L100 and stat points 63.99999... (which is the maximum number of stat points one can gain at L100, or so I've read), I get a SE value of 3530.

That's strange, since according to the same guide, the maximum amount of Stat Exp is somewhere around 65000.

So, what am I doing wrong? I get an answer only about 1/20 of what it's supposed to be.


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oporaca
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posted 09-27-2001 09:30 PM      Profile for oporaca     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did you multiply by 2 instead of squaring the first term? I got roughly 65,026 from that formula (roughly, because I used 64 instead of 63.99999).

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Lark84
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posted 09-28-2001 05:47 AM      Profile for Lark84     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now it works. Thanks!

How was I going to know that 2 was supposed to be a ^2? I'm sure there's some way to write that in HTML...


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spunman
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posted 10-01-2001 01:19 PM      Profile for spunman        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
it would be interesting to see what formula the game actually uses to determine the points to add for stat exp. it couldn't use (200*sp^2)-(sp*level)=level^2*(se-2)/800, which is about as simple as it can be worked out without converting any of the variables to a real number. it would have to work two separate formulae and use the difference. well, i think it would be interesting.
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MK
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posted 10-02-2001 06:26 PM      Profile for MK     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is there any chance it's something stupid like a bit rotation or somethin like that? Maybe we should look at the numbers and try squaring them, dividing them by each other, etc... and see if we find a number that stands out that might indicate what the formula is based on.
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oporaca
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posted 10-02-2001 09:09 PM      Profile for oporaca     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's a quadratic equation, in the form of ax˛+bx+c. In this case, a=64, b= -16, c=2, and x=50s/l, where l is the level and s is the stat points.

I tried fooling around with it, and got this formula, but it probably doesn't work:

Stat Points = Level * (2 + square root of(2 * Stat Experience - 7)) / 800.

Unnervingly, it doesn't work at all when the stat experience is below 4.

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Jaybee
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posted 10-02-2001 09:24 PM      Profile for Jaybee   Email Jaybee   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oporaca:

Stat Points = Level * (2 + square root of(2 * Stat Experience - 7)) / 800.

Unnervingly, it doesn't work at all when the stat experience is below 4.


Thats because you can't have a root of a negative, unless you start using i and other imaginarys. But that would mean it wouldn't work when its lower than 3. Hm.


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posted 10-03-2001 06:53 AM      Profile for poccil   Author's Homepage   Email poccil   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The foprmula I use is the following:

Stat Pts = int((A*(1+SQRT(B-1)))/400)

A = Pokémon's current level.
B = Pokémon's current Stat Exp.

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This formula was posted here a while back by Necrosaro. He said that he personally worked it out by reversing the Stat Exp. Formula.

Here it is:

P=(L*((16+(SQRT(256*E-512)))/128)/50)

where P is the extra points you will gain, L is your Level, and E is the amount of Stat Experience you have.

Hope this helps someone.

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