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Donald
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posted 04-20-2001 06:55 AM      Profile for Donald   Email Donald      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When breeding, is the gender of the baby Pokemon determined at conception or hatching?

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geese
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posted 04-20-2001 07:53 AM      Profile for geese   Email geese   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

Hatching.

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Lark84
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Acutally, the DV's (and thus the gender) is determined when the egg is laid. In other words, when the old man stands outside of the daycare, the DV's and thus gender has already been determined.

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geese
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quote:
Originally posted by Lark84:
Acutally, the DV's (and thus the gender) is determined when the egg is laid. In other words, when the old man stands outside of the daycare, the DV's and thus gender has already been determined.


Hey Lark, I don't mean to make it a habit to disagree with everything you say but...
the genes are determined at the hatching stage, not the egg collecting stage.

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Hey, geese, try disagreeing to things where you could possibly be right, hm? Go pick up an egg, run around until it nearly hatches, save, hatch, check genes, restart, hatch again, check genes. THEY'LL BE THE SAME. If that doesn't tip you off to the lack of correctness of your platform of this issue, nothing will.

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geese
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Oh dear. I feel quite stupid now. I totally misread the question. I knew the answer to this through testing it myself. Oh well, that is what comes from trying to read message boards whilst at work. My infinite apologies to Lark. Back to work for me now.

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Donald
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Thanks Lark.

OK Vap and Wooper, back to the Daycare with you...

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posted 04-20-2001 03:24 PM      Profile for spunman        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i've heard this and i've heard that the genes are determined as soon as you drop the parents off. does anyone know for sure that the genes aren't determined BEFORE the old man shows up in the pen, or is this something we should look into?

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Meowth346
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posted 04-20-2001 10:59 PM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you put two compatible Pokémon into the Day Care, then the babies stats are decided. Remove one Pokémon and put it back in, and the baby-to-be's stats will change (ie, different DVs).

If you put two incompatible Pokémon in the day care (ie Mewtwo+Mew), then the stats, etc. are not recalculated, and using a device such as gameshark to force an egg will re-use the last stats.

*Thinks.* Mm, I may have a mistake in there. I guess that I should try breeding something like Pikachu, then removing them, putting Marill in, taking them out without getting an egg, then seening if Marill or Pikachu's stats are cached for an egg when putting in two Mewtwo...

Er, well, I guess that you can feel free to experiment, spunman. Shouldn't take more than a minute or two.

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Lark84
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I think you may be wrong, Meowth. If I understand you correctly, you mean that the baby's DV's will be the same, until you take the pokémon out and put them back in. But that's not the case, at least not from what I've experienced.

I've been trying to breed for a shiny Oddish. One shiny ditto and a normal oddish was put in the daycare. I walked around outside the daycare, collected eggs and hatched them. I never took out the pokémon from the daycare, still, the baby had different stats every time I hatched it. I have no shiny yet, though

*re-reads Meowth's post*

Hmm... Do you mean the DV's will always be the same for the babies hatched (each baby will have the exact same stats) or will they change, but in a certain range? No. 2 might be true, but no. 1 isn't.

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mleo2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Meowth346:
If you put two incompatible Pokémon in the day care (ie Mewtwo+Mew), then the stats, etc. are not recalculated, and using a device such as gameshark to force an egg will re-use the last stats.

*Thinks.* Mm, I may have a mistake in there. I guess that I should try breeding something like Pikachu, then removing them, putting Marill in, taking them out without getting an egg, then seening if Marill or Pikachu's stats are cached for an egg when putting in two Mewtwo...
--Meowth346



If anyone can give me the code for instantly breeding two monsters, I'll try the research idea posted here by Meowth.

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Fred Winner
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I believe Meowth was saying that once you put them in, the DVs for THAT BABY POKEMON are decided. Take it out, recalculation. Get an egg, recalculation for the next egg, etc.

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