2)
Umbreon uses mean look on X
Umbreon baton passes to Gira
Gira baton passes to whatever...
At this point, can X switch out?

I'd never use it myself, just wondering if it would work.

3)
Is mirror coat affected by dt?

I think it is (counter was in RBY), but I want to check.

And that's the only one I know the answer to.

So just Mean Look someone, then Baton Pass to any strong pokemon who knows Perish Song (I think there are several). They just need to survive a couple turns and switch out (normal switch) on the last turn. Their enemy won't be able to switch till the next turn and will die from the Perish Song while you live.

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Originally posted by Porcupine:
If what you say is true, Mean Look followed by Baton Pass is an invincible strategy I think. I was just playing Silver, and I noticed that for Perish Song, you can switch out your pokemon on the last turn and not die.

So just Mean Look someone, then Baton Pass to any strong pokemon who knows Perish Song (I think there are several). They just need to survive a couple turns and switch out (normal switch) on the last turn. Their enemy won't be able to switch till the next turn and will die from the Perish Song while you live.

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Perish Song would just be the beginning of a Mean Look+Baton Pass strategy.

My favorite so far: you could Mean Look, then Toxic the enemy, then BP to Blissey and Softboil/Heal Bell everyone back to health while the enemy dies.

Another far simpler trick would be to Mean Look, then BP to a pokemon with type advantage, especially an immunity (BPing in a Dark to kill a Psychic or a Ground vs an Electric)--a one-way switch.

The subject recently came up on AGNP while considering Ariados. Ariados naturally learns Spider Web, which works exactly the same as Mean Look. And Ariados can be bred Baton Pass. Which is how I started wondering about the interaction between the two. Somehow I think there is a glitch here--either the two don't work together or the combination suffers from too many logistical problems.

It doesn't make sense to me as to why Baton Pass wouldn't interrupt Mean Look. I wish there were a clear explanation of how Baton Pass worked...