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Datax
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posted 10-24-2000 05:53 PM      Profile for Datax   Email Datax   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to Meowth's Breeding page, when a pokemon is bred with Ditto, it takes on the Ditto's Defense and Special DV's. The Attack comes from the male or is random, and we do not know how the Speed and Hitpoints are generated.

Thus, a Ditto with max DV's in Special and Defense would make the holy grail that is a max pokemon easier to attain by a factor of 225. The theoretical average number of tries needed to catch such a ditto would be 255. By catching a Male pokemon with max Attack (15 tries, on average) and breeding it with this ditto would mean that a mere 225 Eggs would need incubating before a truly maxed pokemon hatched from one.

So, adding all these up, we can see that it would take only 525 tries to get a maxed pokemon (this is a pokemon with all five DV's at 15). Of course, it could only be done with breedable pokemon... more specifically, ones that can breed with Ditto. Thus, maxed Legendaries are still out of the reach of most pokemon players (the mortal ones, at least), but in a couple of weeks, it would be feasible to end up with a maxed pokemon.

Compared with the R/B/Y approach (namely, catch one, look at it, scream in anger, release it, and repeat ad nauseum), 525 tries is nothing. Before, we had to get all five DV's where we wanted them on one try... that's 15^5 tries on average, or 759,375 tries. That's almost 1500 times as many tries as with the Maxed Ditto approach. Granted, it takes a while to produce an egg, and it takes some more time to hatch it, but even this process can be somewhat accelerated by using a traded Ditto.

I'd love to hear comments... I'd prefer to run this theory by all you Azurians before I start trying to catch 225 dittoes.

-Datax

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cfalcon
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posted 10-24-2000 06:06 PM      Profile for cfalcon   Email cfalcon   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll think about it later, but yes, it does seem to be helpful... I think better genes was an intentional side effect of permitting breeding.

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Night
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posted 10-25-2000 09:51 PM      Profile for Night     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

if i had the time to do it, yeah, it's be stupendous.. unfortunately, i have only time enough to catch 3 or 4 and take the one with the best stats...

*sigh*. the life of a college student...

-night


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Datax
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posted 10-26-2000 09:21 PM      Profile for Datax   Email Datax   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Night:

if i had the time to do it, yeah, it's be stupendous.. unfortunately, i have only time enough to catch 3 or 4 and take the one with the best stats...

*sigh*. the life of a college student...


Heh, word. Just interesting how much less time it'd take in G/S. Not suggesting anyone actually sit down and hatch 522 eggs.

-Datax

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MuThaFaKo
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posted 10-26-2000 09:48 PM      Profile for MuThaFaKo   Author's Homepage   Email MuThaFaKo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Plausible excuse for having at least one max stat Poke at a tourny when caught with one.. >=D

The line between obviously cheating and spending way too much time playing is blurred considerably now..

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