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Wizzymoto
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posted 09-10-2000 01:06 AM
Yeah but you'll never have the opprotunity to double those stats, and with the normal max 103 def, Chansey is still worse.And you call yourself the American Pokemon champj\k:-) ------------------ "Tunak tunak, tun, tunak tunak, tun, tunak, tunak, tun da da da....."
From: Irvine, CA, USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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Felix The Cat
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posted 09-10-2000 10:45 AM
Well, an easier way to figure out who has essentially the better defensive capabilities is to use the proportioned stats on Eruza Depths, and it's cool to combine them with my formula "http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/tuff/Forum1/HTML/000351.html" to get base stats that encooperate HP. Anyway, these are the approzimate defensies of those 2 Pokemon taking consideration of their HP [basically, if their HP was 100, it tells what their defence would be].Chansey: 45 Jolteon: 40 So, you were right hehe. And in G/S, Chansey evolves, bringing it's defenses up to about 55 base [taking HP into consideration]. Adios  ------------------ + jason - http://starnation.hypermart.net/
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SpaceDog
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posted 09-10-2000 12:07 PM
Wouldn't it just be easier to multiply the pokemon's max HP by it's max defense? You get higher numbers, of course, but they're still proportional. For example, if you wanted to compare how much damage both chansey and mewtwo take from special-based attacks, you get:Chansey: 703 * 308 = 216542 Mewtwo: 415 * 406 = 168490 216542/168490 = 1.2852 Thus, chansey takes special-based attacks better than Mewtwo by 28.5%. ------------------
From: Laurel, MD | Registered: Feb 2000
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ThomasTR
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posted 09-20-2000 01:52 PM
Well,I experiment with moves alot, both of these movesets have been very useful to me, pick one that you like. But, keep in mind that there is an element of luck in both movesets so don't get upset if you don't always win. Used to be: Seismic Toss, Softboiled, Minimize, Defense Curl (can be a bit of a gamble, these guys here like this moveset though, or something more or less the same as it). Now it is: Sing, Softboiled, Ice Beam, Seismic Toss (very effective as I said on my earlier message). Don't use CHANSEY unless you say to your opponent, I'm only messing about or something like that! ------------------ Everyone has Psychic power, people just don't realise it!
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Night
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posted 09-20-2000 05:04 PM
with clefable, i use psychic sing thunderbolt ice beamclefable is tunring out to be a great pokemon. chansey's still better, though. -night ------------------ (edited to take out my html tags) [This message has been edited by Night (edited 09-20-2000).]
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Philbo
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posted 09-21-2000 02:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by ThomasTR (A NEWBIE): Sing, Softboiled, Ice Beam, Seismic Toss
Where the hell did that come from? None of us have ever even suggested using Sing on Chansey! You think people like us, who work on percentages and unfailable stratagies would use a 50% accurate move? Give me a break.... The best Chansey out there is Molly (T-Wave, Seismic Toss, Minimise, Softboiled) No questions Take that into your next 3v3 match, and if you dont win, you're a very crap player indeed. Altho I do think that the chansey I created for the UK finals was pretty good: Toxic T-Wave Seismic Toss Softboiled It works on the Shockwave principal (even tho I thought this up way before I knew about SW) Ok, the strat is: Toxic first turn, T-Wave on the switch (pressuming they will). If they dont, you've wasted a turn, but hey, you'll kill them in 2-3 seismic tosses. And if not, (this works best on 3v3) they have 2/3 of their team status changed, and you can still attack and recover (unlike SW, which has to LS or explode, which IMO is not good) Good set IMO I shall name him.............. Omlette!  ------------------ Philbo, you rock.-Cat-Gonk "Damn you vile woman-you've impeded my work since the day I escaped from your cursed ovarian Bastille!"-Stewie, Family Guy Peter_the_man: you better not mess with my dick......'cos my dick will kick your a... wait a minute...Nevermind! ICQ:77057994 AIM:Philbosan
From: Kent, England | Registered: May 2000
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Atma
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posted 09-24-2000 08:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Philbo: The best Chansey out there is Molly (T-Wave, Seismic Toss, Minimize, Softboiled)
*rolls eyes* That's useless against any pokemon with Recover, or with Rest and either 401HP, ConfuseRay, or DT/Minimize. It also leaves a serious Swiftdancer problem. The Chansey I use: Softboiled Light Screen Reflect (Defense Curl is too slow) Ice Beam I start with Light Screen (for Amnesia users) or Reflect (for physical attackers), follow up wiht the other, and then fire off IceBeams until the target is frozen. By the way, against pokemon with a weakness to Ice (even Moltres) or a low-Special (228 or lower), Ice Beam will do more damage than Seismic Toss. Oh, and if you're in an no-Mewtwo match, you can try using Minimize or Thunderbolt over LightScreen. Freeze-platform Chansey is cool. PP-wasting Chansey isn't. ------------------ "My name is Atma... I am pure energy... and as ancient as the cosmos. Forgotten in the river of time... I've had an eternity to ponder the meaning of things... And now I have an answer..."
From: Cinnabar Isle, Long Island, NY | Registered: Jul 2000
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Lickitung Master
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posted 09-27-2000 01:25 AM
Personally I don't like pure Siesmic Tossers, myself I've been planning on giving my Chancey this moveset.Thunderbolt Counter Rest Minimize The reason behind the moveset Thunderbolt- well considering His Attack is useless he NEEDS a special based move. Counter to deal with potentially dangerous things with a high Attack like Dragonite and Rhydon and I don't think I need to explain Minimize and rest. Tell me what you think of this moveset. ------------------ Lickitung I choose You! -Me
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infested_grapefruit
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posted 09-27-2000 11:06 PM
oops, I've found out that I've underestimated chansey's ability to take damage. However I've also dicovered that chansey, needs to be set up more if its minimizing then if its defense curling. Otherwise it really wastes the softboils. Rest isn't good on chansey cause it gives the opponent too much time. It is very dangerous for chansey to minimize if paralyzed, cause one fully paralyzed turn can spell doom for it. It is much safer for it to defense curl up. It is also recommended that t-wave should be on chansey to put the opponent in the same boat. Now I've discovered that seismic toss would probably do a decent job, however it will lead to boring tedious battles against other pokemon that have recovery moves and that it is very useless against double resters. That is why while i concur that seismic toss is good, but ice beam is still better because if necessary chansey can be used as a freezing platform even against pokemon that are strong against ice. Again I'm sorry that I didn't have all my facts when i was posting earlier.
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