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Fryguy
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posted 09-01-2000 09:44 AM      Profile for Fryguy   Author's Homepage   Email Fryguy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This might just be an error in online calculators and things like that, but when a Critical Hit occurs does it lose the STAB?

When I input Dragonite and Snorlax into the damage calculator (followed by PBS) I found that Hyper Beam was stronger on Snorlax due to STAB, but a Critical Hit would be stronger on Dragonite. So, is this a mistake or is this a known fact?

Thanks in advance.

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Huor
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posted 09-01-2000 01:54 PM      Profile for Huor     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The damage calculator seems pretty screwed up to me, it says that a critical hit will do less damage then a normal one.

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posted 09-02-2000 02:47 AM      Profile for Lunair     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is always STAB. No matter what, there is STAB. If your gameboy is crushed, and you pokégame's pokésave is lost, there is still STAB. If the four Horsemen of the Apocolypse ride tomorrow, at least there will be STAB.

A hyperbeam on a snorlax is stronger than one on a dragonite. Of course, a crit hit hyperbeam from a dragonite is stronger than a normal hit from a snorlax (2.0 > 1.5) - but if they both get crit hits, a snorlax will do more damage (2.0 < 3.0).

Huor: the only way a crit hit would do less damage than a normal hit is if either the attacker has boosted its attack/special sufficiently so it would do more than 2x damage normally, or if the attacker has lowered the opponent's defence/special to less than half of the original value - remember that crit hits bypass all stat changes.

Hope this helped!

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Fryguy
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posted 09-02-2000 05:41 AM      Profile for Fryguy   Author's Homepage   Email Fryguy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I should probably tell Blizzard so he can sort the problem out... ^_^

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Huor
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posted 09-02-2000 09:55 AM      Profile for Huor     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know that. I was saying that the damage calculator says a CH does less damage then a normal one.

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"In fact, if you'll look back to where this originated, it's in Azure's attempt to "get a good laugh" out of TPM. Now how mature is that?" - Dodrio, posted on Azure Heights

"That team isn't half as funny by itself, but if you go to the URL it's hilarious. Their "intelligent" people know about as much about Pokemon as most bb's did back in March" - Dodrio, posted on PokeMasters


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*sigh*

why did nintendo have to screw poor draggy?

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