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Topic: It's official: Pokemon Stadium cheats
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NickWhiz1
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posted 07-19-2000 09:59 PM
I have proof that Stadium cheats. Here we go.I was playing R-2 Gym Leader Castle. I was in Viridian Gym Tower, and was battling Cool (M). I sent out Jolteon, he sent out Zapdos. We each T-Waved each other, then I started DTing, while he Swifted. I Rested when necessary, and threw in a T-Bolt or two. Finally, I was at 6 DTs and 150 HP. Then, my first proof of the game cheating: Zapdos hit a Thunder through my 6 DTs. What are the odds of that happening? According to Azure Height's formula and data: 0.284* x 0.695 x 0.750# = 0.148035 *1 - 0.712 #He was paralyzed, and this is assuming there is a 1/4 chance of full par. Hmm, about 15%. Well, I guess that isn't too bad. But the next one upset me a bit. I finished it off with T-Bolt, then out came Clefable. I was at 80 HP right now, so I was going to Rest. Just to be safe, I T-Waved Clefable, and it was either a full Par or its Body Slam missed. Then, I rested. Now, here it comes. While I slept, it hit me with Body Slam, THREE TIMES IN A ROW, and Jolty was gone. As you can tell, I wasn't very happy. Now, we'll figure out the odds of this: 0.284* x 0.996 x 0.750# = 0.212148 *1 - 0.712 #He was paralyzed, and this is assuming there is a 1/4 chance of full par. OK, so the odds of it happening once was 21%. BUT, what about three times? 0.212148^3 = 0.009548097070186 Less than 1%. But, what are the odds of both happening? 0.148035 x 0.009548097070186 = 0.001413452549785 Wow, my goodness. Or, for those of you that wish for a rounded answer: 0.15 x 0.0095 = 0.001425 Basically that's saying 0.1425%, or 1.425/1000. Sort of cheap, eh? Well, you haven't heard the whole story. I killed Clefable with Exeggutor, got killed by Dodrio, and sent out Alakazam to finish the 3-headed birdbrain off. But, this part doesn't matter, right?  ------------------ -NickWhiz1 NickWhiz1@aol.com My FAQs
OK, now I fully agree with NickWhiz1 that Branners should NOT Rep For GameFAQs...;p-psycho monkey, after branners was cheering for Azure [This message has been edited by NickWhiz1 (edited 07-19-2000).] [This message has been edited by NickWhiz1 (edited 07-19-2000).]
From: Toledo, OH, USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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Givera
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posted 07-23-2000 06:45 PM
I don't think that means the computer cheats... there are still probabilities that make each of those events possible...Albeit so small that you want to throw you're N64 out of the room after seeing your 6xDT'ed Pokemon be hit by a Fissure... There are however instances that PROVE the Stadium cheats... I think Mr. K (Or AEC-Gonk) posted this: Enemy Dugtrio used Dig... Switched ... (Cann't remember) for Pidgeot (Or other flying type) Dugtrio used Hyper Beam... (At least that's what I remember) -Givera ------------------ "I expect to see [Darryn] and Givera made Azurians when GS is released in English" -Ancient-Egyptian Cat-Gonk
From: Plano, Tx | Registered: Apr 2000
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Theophlosion
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posted 07-23-2000 09:57 PM
It seems quite possible that stadium cheats in its own favour... but has the possibility been considered of it cheating in the -player's- favour?Idling around a few days ago, I started up a game of R1, Prime Cup, Poke Ball division. The rental Gengar was laughing madly in the face of the opposition with Hypnosis/Dream Eater (since it takes the computer a while to get used to the idea of switching when it falls asleep...). About half-way through the second round, I realised with mild interest that Hypnosis hadn't missed yet. A little unusual for such an innaccurate move, but hardly outside the bounds of possiblility. So I decided to take a look at Hypnosis throughout the remaining rounds, and see how well it did. Over six rounds, the score was, Hypnosis... Hit: 18 times Missed: 0 times Not bad for a 59.8% accurate move, eh? For those without calculators to hand, that comes to a probability of 0.0095%... if I can spare the time, I may even dig out my old statistics notes and tell you what that means the probability Stadium was cheating is... :-) I guess it seems reasonable. After all, you don't want the young'uns to get discouraged, eh? ----- (By the way, is it me, or did they drop the "Gallery" option from the UK release of Pokemon Stadium? *grumbles and throws things at Nintendo* I wanted that....) ------------------ <*> Theo (aka tjm, aka Thomas)
From: London, England | Registered: Jul 2000
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Vaporeon of the mist
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posted 07-24-2000 02:40 PM
I hate that Gamblers Rapiddash! I hava Mewtwo, horn drill hits on first try. I bring out Poliwrath, horn Drill takes me out on first try! I bring out ElecriBuzz. HORNDRILL HITS ON FIRST TRY?! GOD DAMN THAT GAMBLER! He eats up all my Continues so I dont have them when I really need them! Stadium SO cheats!------------------ Articuno, hear my cry "Damn the Higher Dragon!" Me "I once tried to teach a parrot japenese, unfortunaly the parrot was stupid." The Amanda Show "This Kitten's purdy" Jackdaw Mewtwo's are like sharks, they are made to kill quickly and mercylessly. They kill and kill till there is nothing left to kill, then they go somewhere else to kill some more...
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White Cat
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posted 07-25-2000 12:35 AM
1/3 x 1/3 x 1/3 = 1/27Just to nitpick, it's 29.7% ^ 3 = 2.62%, but you probably knew that. that's not THAT unlikely...that's still well over three times as likely as a double freeze... Which is what some kid did to me at the last tournament... Grrr, how dare you dig up painful memories!  Well, today, I was facing a Paralysed Zapdos, and over a total of 38 turns, it was Fully paralysed 3 times... Congradulations, that's probably about the same chance as Horn Drill/Fissure hitting twice in a row, which, as I think Fish/EYNH can now tell you, isn't that bad. I'm bored today, so I calculated the chance of what happened to Darryn, and it's 1.07%. The probability of getting two OHKO's in a row is 8.81%.
From: Calgary | Registered: Feb 2000
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Starshelle
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posted 08-03-2000 05:56 PM
Stadium DOES cheat...but after this happened I forgave stadium for some its cheats ::grin::Imagine the situation I was in: No continues left, faced a the VERY last guy before winning the Prime Cup on Round 2. What happens? He brings out his Mew, I bring out my Mew. On the first shot my Mew with Blizzard freezes it!! Then it brings out another pokemon, I think it was Jolteon, and I use Blizzard agan and it FROZE! I nearly fainted lOL I froze TWO pokemon, right after each other, on my very last continue on the very last trainer I needed to beat on round 2! If that ain't luck I don't know what is! LOL ------------------ After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him. The moral: when you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut. [This message has been edited by Starshelle (edited 08-03-2000).]
From: Kansas (U.S.) | Registered: Jun 2000
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Sutoreiku87
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posted 08-09-2000 11:18 AM
Blarg...today, I was fighting Gambler...I had Gengar DT'ed six times, and at full health...he sends out Dugtrio...he goes first, with Fissure, of course......HE HITS THROUGH 6 DT'S! AND I WASN'T EVEN PARALYZED! *calms down* Well, I beat that bitch into the ground after that... ------------------ I enjoy mlmiddleton's insightful views on Pokemon and I hope that one day, I may be able to become half the Pokemon Master he is. - GolemKong =P
From: Austin, Texas | Registered: Aug 2000
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Triple C
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posted 08-09-2000 11:53 AM
Damnit. PokéCup cheats, too! I was fighting a Juggler's Abra with Metronome with Eclipse, my Articuno. I do all of the DTing up, getting hit with stupid Metronomed moves like Tackle and whatnot. Then, things get worse. I decide to Rest, and Abra Metronomes a Thunderbolt, whic hits through the DTs. Okay, that's fine. It Metronomes again and gets Thunder! Thank god, it missed. I wake up and decide to Rest again. For the next three turns, Abra Metronomes two Swords Dances and a Sharpen. I wake up again, and Abra Metronomes a Hyper Beam. I barely survive. I decide to stop playing around and finish this off. Articuno hangs that Abra's bitch-ass from a bear trap. I decided to stop playing for a while so I can prepare for what may happen in the next rounds. <sarcasm> If an Abra can almost kill off an Articuno, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Magikarp destroy an Exeggutor. </sarcasm>
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