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Givera
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posted 07-07-2000 11:41 AM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
((BTW - This is for RGBY...))

HP: [ { (Base HP Stat + DV) * 2 + Stat Exp / 4} * Level] / 100 + Level + 10

Misc: [ { (Base Stat + DV) * 2 + Stat Exp / 4} x Level] / 100 + 5

Base Stat and DV are the same value that we're used to...

But Stat Exp is a number between 1 and 255 (Inclusive) ... It doesn't mention however if the value can be 0...

((My translator isn't working - But it mentions FE01h = FF^2... and something about (n-1)^2+1 ~ n^2... TeamPA usually uses "x ~ y" to signify "Between x and y"))

If you simplify the formula however... it lines up with the old (new?) one however...
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you have a translator?!?!?!? PLEASE,send it to me!! I need one bad!!1

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Well, FF^2 is FE01, and that is the max value that your stat EXP goes to normally in each stat. You can set it higher (it makes no difference) with a shark, but my codes set it to that value, and no higher (I never tested this in an emulator, so I could be wrong: the "break point" (where you get the 63rd bonus point at L100) is lower for some monster, according to Meowth).

Stat Exp goes from 0-255*255 (like you said: I don't know how that is converted to points, except that it is exponential)...

Maybe someone has more math details?

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quote:
Originally posted by spunman:
it would be interesting to see what formula the game actually uses to determine the points to add for stat exp.


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mleo2003: This formula was posted here a while back by Necrosaro. He said that he personally worked it out by reversing the Stat Exp. Formula.

P=(L*((16+(SQRT(256*E-512)))/128)/50)

i used one of our nicer computers at work to work out a HUGE excel page to figure every possibility for levels 2 through 100 and stat exp 2 through 65535 (just in case) for this formula and marcus majarra's. it checked the formulae against each other and spat out any discrepancies at the top. to point out the integer functions:

pts=int(lvl*int((16+int(sqrt(256*exp-512)))/128)/50)

while necrosaro's formula pukes if you give it a stat exp of ed: LESS THAN 2 (do we really need to worry about 1 or 0? didn't think so.) it works perfectly for all other possibilities. yep, all 6,437,277 entries check with not a single error. impressive, seeing as how i couldn't even prove the two formulae against each other on paper. must just be me.

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Spunman, I found that formula myself a few days ago, and it can be drastically simplified.

Let me go find it...

Stat Points = Level * (2 + square root of(2 * Stat Experience - 7)) / 800

Easier to remember, if not exactly precise (because of a lack of integer functions).

[ 10-07-2001: Message edited by: oporaca ]

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Givera
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Quit repeating yourself...

Hey radio buttons look cool on WinXP.

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Quit sturring up the ancient bones of the past!
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quote:
Originally posted by Givera:

HP: [ { (Base HP Stat + DV) * 2 + Stat Exp / 4} * Level] / 100 + Level + 10

So does that mean that another way to calculate DVs would be

DV = {(HP –10 –level) * 100 * level – (stat Exp / 4) / 2} –base HP Stat ?

(and sorry if anything I say sounds dumb, since I'm still not very familiar to all these formulis etc, so I might not understand everything)

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