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Givera
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posted 05-23-2000 01:41 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was reading over your Breeding Notes on your web site and noticed Hereditary Attacks... according to your web site a pokemon can only learn attacks that it could naturally that his father has - He can only learn abilities form his father that he could learn via level, TM, or HM... so does this meen anyone who says they've breed different attacks on pokemon like Mega Horn onto Scyther or something like that are lying?
Finally - You wouldn't mind telling me where you found the breeding compatibility table would you? You've said before that all of your notes are on paper so could you maybe just write up some of the more important info like the data pattern and possibly the location of the start of the table? That should be all I need... Thanx!!
-Givera

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"My staff is complaining about the rats in the kitchen; I want to hire a new staff" -Lunchlady Doris on how to spend the School's oil money
"If any punk-a** Charmander tries to mount my Koffing, I'll have Wiggly crack his spine and Lee will throw him in a vat of Psyduck Surf!" -Mr. K on different species ability to breed
"Heh.....ditto is a G** D*** pimp in g/s....he gets all the a**.." -Argo on Ditto's ability to breed with anything/one
"My Mewtwo's slower than yours because he just had his way with that cute eevee over there, and now he's tired" -CFalcon making a pun on how sex (gender) affects stats


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Charger082
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posted 05-23-2000 02:54 PM      Profile for Charger082   Email Charger082   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
where is this web site with breeding compatiblity

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Givera
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posted 05-23-2000 06:07 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Charger082:
where is this web site with breeding compatiblity


http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/Meowth346/forever.htm

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"My staff is complaining about the rats in the kitchen; I want to hire a new staff" -Lunchlady Doris on how to spend the School's oil money
"If any punk-a** Charmander tries to mount my Koffing, I'll have Wiggly crack his spine and Lee will throw him in a vat of Psyduck Surf!" -Mr. K on different species ability to breed
"Heh.....ditto is a G** D*** pimp in g/s....he gets all the a**.." -Argo on Ditto's ability to breed with anything/one
"My Mewtwo's slower than yours because he just had his way with that cute eevee over there, and now he's tired" -CFalcon making a pun on how sex (gender) affects stats


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Meowth346
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posted 05-23-2000 08:09 PM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't really want to look up the hex locations right now. I've been work in HEX all day long.

As for herediarily breeding attaks, I had to cut out a whole section on that to mean uploading deadlines. There's a thing where some Pok¨¦mon can learn attacks ONLY through breeding, which I should have up soon. No one can learn Spore this way, and Muuma can only learn Screech and ¤ß¤Á¤Ĺ¤ě (Michutsure/Fellow Traveler) through this herediaty. There's a whole bunch there: Bulbasaur can learn Petal Dance, Charmander can learn Bite, and Squirtle can learn Mist, Haze, and Confusion. And Psyduck can be a lean, mean, Psychic attacking machine! Too bad you can't (that I know of, I could be wrong in some way) breed Amnesia onto him.

--Meowth346

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Totodile, go! Oh no, he's got a Granbull! Totodile, return! Who should I choose next, Murkrow, Igglybuff, or Espeon?
Confused?


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Givera
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posted 05-23-2000 08:20 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Meowth346:
I don't really want to look up the hex locations right now. I've been work in HEX all day long.

That's fine... but do you think you could at least get around to it soon? Is the compatibility just stored in a big 251x251 1-bit array? Like each bit is read as 1 = breedable and 2 = not? Or is it a smaller array since all of the evolutions can breed with the same pokemon?

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Too bad you can't (that I know of, I could be wrong in some way) breed Amnesia onto him.

Yea but that's what Stadium is for... (Or GS)

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Confused?

Not really... I already go to your site on a regular basis
-Givera

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"My staff is complaining about the rats in the kitchen; I want to hire a new staff" -Lunchlady Doris on how to spend the School's oil money
"If any punk-a** Charmander tries to mount my Koffing, I'll have Wiggly crack his spine and Lee will throw him in a vat of Psyduck Surf!" -Mr. K on different species ability to breed
"Heh.....ditto is a G** D*** pimp in g/s....he gets all the a**.." -Argo on Ditto's ability to breed with anything/one
"My Mewtwo's slower than yours because he just had his way with that cute eevee over there, and now he's tired" -CFalcon making a pun on how sex (gender) affects stats


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Meowth346
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posted 05-23-2000 09:21 PM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, breeding compatability is simple. There are 28 "tables" (for lack of a better words). Each Pokémon goes on a table, and then those tables are arranged in a certain way, any Pokémon on any adjacent table can be bred. I'm not really that good at explaining -_-

--Meowth346

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Totodile, go! Oh no, he's got a Granbull! Totodile, return! Who should I choose next, Murkrow, Igglybuff, or Espeon?
Confused?


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Givera
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posted 05-23-2000 10:09 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Umm... okay... do you think you could explain it just a little more? What I want to know is how is the table stored? Like is it:
(Table #) (1st Pokemon Compatible) (2nd Pokemon Compatible) (Etc) (00 = End of Table)

or is it like a 28x251 1-bit table? Like it stores a 1 if Bublasaur can breed w/ it 0 if it cann't, next Ivysaur 1 if breed 0 if not, etc all the way down to Serebii?

Finally is it similar to either of the above but they only store ONE of the pokemon (The least/most evolved) to save memory? If you could just explain this I'd be able to find the breeding table on my own... thanx...
-Givera

P.S. What info do you have on breedable abilities? If you could maybe post just a little bit of info I could figure the rest out... like what abilities bulbasaur can be breed with; where the moves are stored in the ROM; how the moves are stored; etc... Thanx again...

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"My staff is complaining about the rats in the kitchen; I want to hire a new staff" -Lunchlady Doris on how to spend the School's oil money
"If any punk-a** Charmander tries to mount my Koffing, I'll have Wiggly crack his spine and Lee will throw him in a vat of Psyduck Surf!" -Mr. K on different species ability to breed
"Heh.....ditto is a G** D*** pimp in g/s....he gets all the a**.." -Argo on Ditto's ability to breed with anything/one
"My Mewtwo's slower than yours because he just had his way with that cute eevee over there, and now he's tired" -CFalcon making a pun on how sex (gender) affects stats


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Givera
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posted 05-24-2000 07:01 PM      Profile for Givera   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One last question... what does carried items mean? And why are there two of them? Is it what he/she is carrying when you catch them in the wild and the first is during the day and the second at night? Finally will they ALWAYS carry that item or is it random? If you can answer this and the other one I should have all the info I need... thanx! (I hope I'm not getting too annoying begging for all these handouts...)
-Givera

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"My staff is complaining about the rats in the kitchen; I want to hire a new staff" -Lunchlady Doris on how to spend the School's oil money
"If any punk-a** Charmander tries to mount my Koffing, I'll have Wiggly crack his spine and Lee will throw him in a vat of Psyduck Surf!" -Mr. K on different species ability to breed
"Heh.....ditto is a G** D*** pimp in g/s....he gets all the a**.." -Argo on Ditto's ability to breed with anything/one
"My Mewtwo's slower than yours because he just had his way with that cute eevee over there, and now he's tired" -CFalcon making a pun on how sex (gender) affects stats


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Porcupine
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posted 05-24-2000 07:05 PM      Profile for Porcupine   Email Porcupine   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, Meowth, I finally think I might understand how breeding moves works. Each pokemon can only learn certain moves...the ones he learns naturally, moves through TMs, and certain specific moves through breeding. But only certain moves. For example maybe you can think of it as being: There are actually 100 TMs (just made the number up) but only 50 are actually TMs you can directly teach to your pokemon. The other "fake" TMs can be learned only through breeding...and each pokemon has a list corresponding to which of these 100 TMs he can learn...

Is this how it works?

Or maybe there is a more simple relationship...any Fire pokemon can learn any Fire moves through breeding, etc....

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Meowth346
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posted 05-25-2000 02:35 AM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
After being sick in bed all night and day I'm still not in the mood to looking through the ROM for the tables. I did all of that back in February or so, so I'd have to search all over.

As for items, I can't even remember about them right now (can't think straight with this head cold). I know that there's a % chance of a PKMN having an item when you catch it. On my site when I list two items, it either means tht the second is when they bring an item from the time machine, or a second item that they may be caught with...I don't remember right now. I'm guessing, though, that you know tha thte items are stored with the base stats for each PKMN.

--Meowth346

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Totodile, go! Oh no, he's got a Granbull! Totodile, return! Who should I choose next, Murkrow, Igglybuff, or Espeon?
Confused?


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Meowth346
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posted 05-25-2000 02:37 AM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As for moves only learned via breeding, I've now placed on my site a chart of what attacks can be learned per Pokémon via breeding only.

--Meowth346

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Totodile, go! Oh no, he's got a Granbull! Totodile, return! Who should I choose next, Murkrow, Igglybuff, or Espeon?
Confused?


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White Cat
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posted 05-25-2000 12:43 PM      Profile for White Cat   Author's Homepage   Email White Cat      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great work! BTW, could you put the English translation(s) of the G/S moves on that chart instead of just the Romanizations? Unless you know Japanese, it's basically impossible to tell what the new moves listed on the chart are.
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phoenixnye
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posted 05-26-2000 12:53 AM      Profile for phoenixnye   Email phoenixnye   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Meowth.
About what you said of getting Amnesia for Psyduck it can be done through Stadium and after you breed him i would assume the end product it's another Psyduck that know Amnesia

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Meowth346
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posted 05-26-2000 02:40 AM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by phoenixnye:
i would assume the end product it's another Psyduck that know Amnesia

Well, through breeding Psyduck can learn Psychic attacks, like Psybeam and Psychic, but I don't think that it can get AMnesia through breeding. But I may be wrong.

--Meowth346

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Totodile, go! Oh no, he's got a Granbull! Totodile, return! Who should I choose next, Murkrow, Igglybuff, or Espeon?
Confused?


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posted 05-26-2000 02:39 PM      Profile for Ravashack     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*Looks at the breeding list*
Scyther can learn Baton Touch?
Krabby, Meowth, Nidorans, and Tangela learn Amnesia?
Snorlax can LICK?
Dratini can get Haze and Light Screen?
Charmander learns Rock Slide?
Squirtle can get Mirror Coat?

Wow....

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Meowth346
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posted 05-26-2000 03:43 PM      Profile for Meowth346   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Wow....

After putting my breeding info up, most people are saying "So breeding is pointless since I can't breed Spore onto Scyther. Well, guess they'll skip out on the good of breeding, then ^_^

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Totodile, go! Oh no, he's got a Granbull! Totodile, return! Who should I choose next, Murkrow, Igglybuff, or Espeon?
Confused?


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