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Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu
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posted 03-19-2000 08:00 PM      Profile for Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu   Author's Homepage   Email Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay, when a Pokémon uses Recover, it restores 50% of it's max HP, right? Suppose a Pokémon with Recover (let's say Mewtwo) is hit with Toxic. The amount of damage done each turn adds on to the previous amount (25, 50, 75, 100, etc.), but is reset to the original amount when the Pokémon is retreated or Rested. Does Recover reset it too? I'm guessing it does, because everyone would be killing off Mewtwo with Toxic. Any comments?

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From: Plymout, MI USA | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged
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posted 03-19-2000 08:25 PM      Profile for Avalanche   Author's Homepage   Email Avalanche   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rest only removes the poison status, not the calumnative ( you try and spell it) effect. Try using Toxic then rest, then poison. It picks up where it left off. So recover doesn't even get rid of the posion, so no. The reson people don't use Toxic on Mewtwos all the time is it prevents better status changes like frezze from occuring, plus it is so easy to deal with by switching or substitute.

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Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu
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posted 03-19-2000 08:35 PM      Profile for Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu   Author's Homepage   Email Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
2 questions...

Does Substitute remove the cumulative (I won 3 spelling bees in elementary school, I can spell cumulative easily) status? If not, I don't see how it could help. Also, is Grep the first or last Pokémon in the group? If last, Toxic could wipe him out.

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[This message has been edited by Jedi Master Pi Ka Chu (edited 03-19-2000).]


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posted 03-19-2000 09:05 PM      Profile for Avalanche   Author's Homepage   Email Avalanche   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I meant if you use sub, then Toxic won't hit. And you're right, if he can't switch you have an edge. The thing is that it takes a while or toxic to really start to hurt, and a powerhoue like Mewtwo might take you down by then.

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posted 03-19-2000 09:09 PM      Profile for 10,000Lb.Snorlax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WOuldn't Grep have a substitute up before you could toxify him?

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From: Denver | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged
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posted 03-20-2000 12:58 AM      Profile for MewtwoSama   Author's Homepage   Email MewtwoSama   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If Grep was hit with Poison, I'm sure the trainer would switch him out if possible.

If you can Toxic Grep when he's the last one out, the battle is yours.

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posted 03-20-2000 04:50 AM      Profile for cfalcon   Email cfalcon   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Electrode goes before everybody else, if he's fast enough, and not even grep (M2:Psychic / Sub / Recover / Amnesia) can do anything about that except switch out.

The damage counter for toxic is not reset when you recover (try and see: you'll eventually hit a point where you can't recover that much hp anymore).

Probably a better bet would be T-wave, as then he might miss turns and could go last (it has to hurt to lose to a Cloyster with Clamp).

(Though in Stadium fully paralyzed happens so infrequently it isn't as good as before)

-cfalcon, who should be working on his opsys project...

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From: 39°45' N, 104°52' W | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged
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posted 03-21-2000 04:36 AM      Profile for pkthunder   Author's Homepage   Email pkthunder   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Someone has a new idea for a Jolteon: http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/tuff/Forum7/HTML/000099.html

If Thunder is replaced with Toxic, this Jolteon could very well get off a Toxic before grep or any other MewTwo puts up another substitute. By that time it might be too late.

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