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 CPioli Orangutan Spouse Member # 120 Rate Member posted 03-12-2000 05:18 PM                     Anyone here actually know what the minimum and maximum stats can be for wild Pokemon?This will probably be old news, but, I never saw anyone talk about it, so I may as wellThe rule is that at level 50, wild Pokemon (pkmn who have not gained stat points) will have stats equaling their base stat (see Necrasaro's web site) plus the variable they have, which can be 0-15For example, Cloyster has base stat of 180. When Cloyster reaches level 50 without gaining any experience points, it's stats will be 180 plus it's variable. Everyone always says this is the only way to find the right max stats for the PokemonBut I've found another way.For every 10 levels a Pokemon has, it will have 3 variables for it's statsFor example, a level 3 Rattata has no variables at all: its impossible to tell whether ot not it will be strong.But, in fact, it does have a stat variable: 1For instance, a Rattata with statsAtk: 8Def: 8Spd: 8Spc: 8Would be much stronger at level 100 than a Rattata withAtk: 8Def: 7Spd: 7Spc: 7There is a one variable there, and it can be used to your advantage!At level 100, there are a possible 30 variables, and at level 50, there are a possible 15 variables. Put this into a ratio100:3050:15Theres a definite pattern here: for every 3 levels you gain, another 1 stat variable will be shown.At level 10, 3 stat variables are visibleAt level 20, 6 stat variables are visibleand so on...unfortunately, 3 doesn't divide into 100 evenly. So, for every 3.333333 (repeating decimal) levels a wild Pokemon is at, it will have 1 stat variablethe stat variable is magnified for every time a Pokemon gains levels. For instance...A Wild Pokemon at level 50 may have a max Hp variable stat of 15, but at level 100, that could mean it'd be around a variable of 29-30 hp.This is pretty much the way I've seen this to work, but it doesn't have anything to do with max stats, just max stat potential (I think).Does anyone understand this? From: not to be told for some odd reason | Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Wintermute My custom title sucks. Member # 5 Member Rated: posted 03-12-2000 05:24 PM                        Originally posted by CPioli:Does anyone understand this?What you're saying makes sense, and it's an interesting way to look at it. But I trust you're aware that you're only describing the output of an underlying algorithm. It might be described any number of different ways, but I think the most powerful way is the actual way: namely the stat formulae revealed by Necro, used by Grey Cloak, and described in detail by Marcus in his Mechanics document.------------------[This message has been edited by Wintermute (edited 03-12-2000).][This message has been edited by Wintermute (edited 03-12-2000).] From: Winnipeg, Manitoba | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Wizzymoto Farting Nudist Member # 60 Member Rated: posted 03-12-2000 05:29 PM                     Good thinking, and an interesting way of looking at it. But it's still impossible to tell at level 3 how good a pokemon could be. Because since every 1 in 3 will have the variable, some of them will invariably have better stats than others. Thats why its better to catch pokes at higher levels in order to see more distinct differences------------------"I thought you said you were gonna watch a video""We did, an video on how to make your own sausge" From: Irvine, CA, USA | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged
 CPioli Orangutan Spouse Member # 120 Rate Member posted 03-12-2000 05:36 PM                     You have a vague estimate, really.For instance, if I were to catch a level 30 (9 stat variables) growlithe, and if it were to have all stat variables on 9, that would mean that at level 100, the max stats can be anywhere from right on the dot to below it by 4 stat points.If you don't have time to get all Pokemon up to level 50, resulting in grueling amounts of sharking for Rare Candies, etc, then you may want to consider this....now I have to check to see what "underlying algorithm" means, with the help of my good ol' bud, Webster ^^. From: not to be told for some odd reason | Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged
 The Great Dreamer Farting Nudist Member # 117 Member Rated: posted 03-13-2000 11:37 PM                     O.K., I see, so what your really trying to communicate to my Mind/Body/Spirit complex is that if the ionic fluxuation of the psychotronic phase O' morph has a dangle with an angle that is directly porportional to the beat of the meat? I, however, disagree with your hypothesis, I think that the parallel plane of the shish-kabob is only partialy concordant with the whatchimacolic thingie-thing x Pi to the infinity power + 2.4.6.9...(J/K!^_^)What I really want to know is if when a pokémon is candied to lvl50 unaltered by vitamins, battle, ect...is it going to reflect the actuall stat potential? I mean, I don't understand this 15 variable stuff, I mean, there's no explenation that puts it like if I was 4...wich I am not...=^)But, I just want to know how can I tell if I caught a maxed pokémon? Do I just catch it, candy to lvl50 and then compare with the Skill finder? Is that the way to tell? I need help... =^)------------------"The Great Dreamer Has Written..."-Luis The Bard, The Great Dreamer- From: Las Vegas were everyone uses Mimic & Metronome! | Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Mr. K Racist Member # 2 Member Rated: posted 03-13-2000 11:57 PM                        quote:Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:But, I just want to know how can I tell if I caught a maxed pokémon? Do I just catch it, candy to lvl50 and then compare with the Skill finder? Is that the way to tell?That's it exactly.See...you secretly understand, but you just don't want to admit you're as nerdly as us.------------------KOFFING!Azure Heights Pokémon Laboratory From: Cinnabar Island | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Ravashack Farting Nudist Member # 128 Member Rated: posted 03-14-2000 03:31 PM                    Aren't there also lower levels where the numbers come out even though? For example, if you find a level 30 Snorlax through Necrosaro's formula to find the highest stats, you'll find that the end result is 4 exact numbers. Granted, all the numbers in Snorlax's stats are divisible by 5, but I'm sure you get what I mean. It's probably too much number crunching though.------------------ Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Square Farting Nudist Member # 93 Member Rated: posted 03-14-2000 03:36 PM                        quote:Originally posted by The Great Dreamer:O.K., I see, so what your really trying to communicate to my Mind/Body/Spirit complex is that if the ionic fluxuation of the psychotronic phase O' morph has a dangle with an angle that is directly porportional to the beat of the meat? I, however, disagree with your hypothesis, I think that the parallel plane of the shish-kabob is only partialy concordant with the whatchimacolic thingie-thing x Pi to the infinity power + 2.4.6.9...(J/K!^_^)HA!!!! dude that was hilarious! hehe------------------Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me up. In a room. I died there. They buried me. In a box. With worms. I hate worms. They drive me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once..... From: deep in a swamp, under a rock, in a cocoon | Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Rolken Vulcan Member # 7 Member Rated: posted 03-14-2000 10:34 PM                        Actually, that would be to the infinite power, not infinity power.------------------The new millennium doesn't begin until 2001! From: Provo, UT | Registered: Feb 2000  |  IP: Logged

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