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Topic: The power of Mewtwo
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neatoburrito
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posted 03-23-2002 04:53 PM
Is it such a crime to have a Cheap Mewtwo? I think that if you base your team on cheapness, isn't it stronger? Well anyway, if the difference between winning and losing an important battle is having a cheap mewtwo on your team, would you have it?
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posted 03-23-2002 05:14 PM
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Having a Mewtwo on a team is like having two or three extra members. Without the right pokes, he blows anything away. I would rather lose using a team of favorites than win using a Mewtwo. He is only cool for playing in the game, not for battles outside of it.
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undone-backwards
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posted 03-23-2002 05:36 PM
Let's get one thing straight. There is no such thing as a "cheap" mewtwo. Mewtwo defines cheapness. No, mewtwo re-defined the laws of cheapness, and physics. Is it a crime to use Mewtwo...no, but it should be.
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Sean A.
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posted 03-23-2002 08:44 PM
Mewtwo is the only thing I can think of that has a 318 attack and doesn't have to use physical moves to deal a ton of damage! End of story. Tied for second in speed, a ton of HP, best Special Attack in the game, Recover, etc. If M2 has Psychic and Recover, it's cheap already!
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wheevee
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posted 03-24-2002 10:06 AM
Hmmm... Just because you have a Mewtwo doesn't mean you'll win. Better players can beat the crap out of a legendary team anyway... If they don't get unfairly bad luck. Mewtwo is susceptible to Parafusion, Explosion/
Selfdestruct(Snorlax), and Sleep.
1. Parafusion
The riskiest way to take down a Mewtwo, as the Parafuser will probably be a Lapras or the like... It may faint quickly, especially if Mewtwo has Amnesia. Then again, parafusion is pretty deadly too.
2. Explosion/Selfdestruct
If lax manages to get in a Selfdestruct, or if Eggy can Explode on Mewtwo, it's toast. An Electrode/Gengar Exploding on a PAR'd Mewtwo might do enough damage(even with its bad Attack) to allow any other physical attackers to finish Mewtwo off with Hyper Beam etc.
3. Sleep
Mewtwo can't attack when asleep. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) You either finish it off with a strong physical attacker here, or(as I have watched with amusement) pull out an FE Jolty and CH with Thunderbolts, and hope you move first when Mewtwo wakes up o_O; FE Jolty's kinda risky though... And with the Pin Missile bug on Azure's Porygon, Pin Missile is not really an option on Jolteon. Unless you don't mind being cheap...
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PikaCharma
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posted 03-24-2002 12:27 PM
It all depends on what the environment is, and what rules were agreed to before hand. If someone requests a no Mewtwo battle, then I honor the request. If the person is some Pokeyman Master d00d boasting about how 1337 their Mewtwo is, and there's a good chance the damn thing's nothing more than a Missingno\Rare Candy byproduct, then I'll take it down with a Jolteon\Pinsir tagteam and do so as publicly as possible. If a non-wanker has a Mewtwo they wanna test out against different types of teams, or they designed a M2 killer they want to test, I'll honor their wishes about use of M2, whatever those wishes may be. And I NEVER use M2 in battle if I have reason to believe that the other person doesn't have one of their own. Even if no anti-M2 clause was agreed to before hand, I'm not gonna unleash that damn beast on someone who's making an effort to be non cheap, unless they specifically ask me to use M2 or be as cheap as possible for some reason. ((It's happened.)) However...if I'm going into a tournament, and cheapness is gonna be flying out the wazoo from everyone involved...I got Mew, I got Mewtwo, and I got some speedy son of a bitch with Thunderwave. Taking out someone's 6-Mewtwo lineup with two non-legendary Pokemon or attempting to pull a similar crazy stunt is all fine and dandy when the only thing at stake is bragging rights, and you got nothing to lose if your strategy falls short or outright backfires...but put me in any serious competition, and the cheese shall fly, no holds barred.
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SDShamshel
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posted 03-24-2002 09:59 PM
1. Parafusion
The riskiest way to take down a Mewtwo, as the Parafuser will probably be a Lapras or the like... It may faint quickly, especially if Mewtwo has Amnesia. Then again, parafusion is pretty deadly too.
And then Mewtwo's Thunderbolts render that point moot
2. Explosion/Selfdestruct
If lax manages to get in a Selfdestruct, or if Eggy can Explode on Mewtwo, it's toast. An Electrode/Gengar Exploding on a PAR'd Mewtwo might do enough damage(even with its bad Attack) to allow any other physical attackers to finish Mewtwo off with Hyper Beam etc.
Sorry to tell you, but Snorlax's selfdestruct will not KO a Mewtwo at max HP. And then Mewtwo, with is ever fun super speed, recovers back and all your work is gone. Besides, "Exploding" is generally not seen as an anti-Mewtwo strategy, as the goal of an anti-Mewtwo strategy or any anti-Pokemon strategy is for your Pokemon to survive.
3. Sleep
Mewtwo can't attack when asleep. You either finish it off with a strong physical attacker here, or(as I have watched with amusement) pull out an FE Jolty and CH with Thunderbolts, and hope you move first when Mewtwo wakes up o_O; FE Jolty's kinda risky though... And with the Pin Missile bug on Azure's Porygon, Pin Missile is not really an option on Jolteon. Unless you don't mind being cheap...
Right. Sleep. Never mind that Mewtwo is faster than every Sleep move user in the game. Also never mind that Mewtwo will have 5 other Pokemon backing it up. These strategies are fine and dandy if the person only uses Mewtwo, but with 5 other Pokemon, that's another story.
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veloS
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posted 03-25-2002 07:43 AM
Damn, you just converted me. I'll never use a mewtwo again.... ![[Frown]](frown.gif) (At least not in RBY )
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posted 03-25-2002 12:22 PM
My Ulitmate Team for RBY had a Mewtwo on it, but, ya know, it needed it to counteract all the other Mewtwos in the metagame, but, then again, my other 2 Pokémon were designed to mop the floor with annoyance Mewtwos
Is Mewtwo cheap? Well, I'm not gonna go there, but, I will say this, it IS a Pokémon. All 251 Pokémon are legit. In G/S/C they tried to make him less powerful, and, they did, but, he's STILL super powerful in G/S/C, even against a Tyranitar...
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Pinsir_sama
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posted 03-27-2002 06:50 PM
i think it should be a crime for 1337s to use mewtwos. newbies with mewtwos are funny.
they pull them out like it is a trump card. laugh. then, OHKO with a cursed hyperbeam.
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Sean A.
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posted 03-28-2002 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Pinsir_sama:
then, OHKO with a cursed hyperbeam.
Are you aware of what forum you are in? Maybe a Swords Danced or Meditated Hyperbeam, but I doubt you'll see too many Cursed ones.
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Pinsir_sama
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posted 03-28-2002 07:32 PM
yes i was unaware of what forum i was in...sorry.
my question: why was
parasect
spore
swordsdance
leechlife
substitute so ppopular? leech life should go for double edge... ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
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MewtwoSama
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posted 03-28-2002 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Pinsir_sama:
leech life should go for double edge...
Maybe because:
Leech Life restore Parasect's HP and
Double-Edge takes away Parasect's HP?
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CHaRiZaRd
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posted 03-29-2002 12:04 AM
Mewtwo move sets are fun to think up and experiment with.
I like the Amnesia using one, but also, Amnesia, Barrier, Psychic, and Rest could be kind of annoying.
Mewtwo is pretty fricken fast, and can T-wave, Selfdestruct, and do a bunch of other stuff.
Mewtwo is fun to use, but it is clear why he normally is not allowed. I think it was DL who said in reference to Mewtwo...
"Hitmonlee is cooler. Use him."
Yeah.
Mewtwo is only considered cool in Smash Brothers Melee, where he isn't a god, and it actually takes skill to use him.
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undone-backwards
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posted 03-29-2002 05:36 AM
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Mewtwo move sets are fun to think up and experiment with
*sigh*
pojo ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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ThaMasta
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posted 03-30-2002 05:43 AM
What 7 fags said yes!?
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PokéProGamer
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posted 03-30-2002 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by veloS:
Damn, you just converted me. I'll never use a mewtwo again.... (At least not in RBY )
And what the hell is mewtwo in gold and silver anyway? ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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CHaRiZaRd
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posted 03-31-2002 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by undone-backwards:
pojo
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The reason I said Mewtwo sets were fun to think up and experiment with is because so many people bitch and moan and say the same things over and over again about Mewtwo being cheap as hell.
True, but who cares? It's a fricken game, and people should be allowed to abuse it in whichever way they please.
If you meant anything retarded by your post:
Fuck you.
If not, disregard the "fuck you," and replace it with "kiss my ass."
Because either way, there was no need for your gayass comment.
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Jman
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posted 03-31-2002 11:26 AM
Mewtwo is not cheap just extremely broken. The best stats in the game, the most powerful attacks, few counters that will work, etc. That is why it has been taken out of most of the official tournaments as well as the tournaments we have between ourselves online. Its just like Magic:The Gathering. When a card becomes to destructive, they restrict it or ban it outright.
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undone-backwards
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posted 03-31-2002 11:44 AM
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The reason I said Mewtwo sets were fun to think up and experiment with is because so many people bitch and moan and say the same things over and over again about Mewtwo being cheap as hell.
True, but who cares? It's a fricken game, and people should be allowed to abuse it in whichever way they please.
If you meant anything retarded by your post:
Fuck you.
If not, disregard the "fuck you," and replace it with "kiss my ass."
Because either way, there was no need for your gayass comment.
I liked the part when you shut up. The rest made me cry
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CHaRiZaRd
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posted 03-31-2002 11:50 PM
I liked the part when you shut up. The rest made me cry
Yeah, me too.
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Mewtwo Master
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posted 04-24-2002 09:54 PM
To use Mewtwo against another person isn't really cheap, because they could use one too. If they don't use one and you have a easy victory, you're the better trainer. (Or maybe really lucky.)
If you agree not to use Mewtwo, then to use one is cheating, plain and simple. Otherwise, using one Mewtwo isn't cheap.
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SDShamshel
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posted 04-24-2002 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Mewtwo Master:
To use Mewtwo against another person isn't really cheap, because they could use one too. If they don't use one and you have a easy victory, you're the better trainer. (Or maybe really lucky.)
If you agree not to use Mewtwo, then to use one is cheating, plain and simple. Otherwise, using one Mewtwo isn't cheap.
The mere fact that you have to use another Mewtwo to truly match a Mewtwo is testament to its sheer cheapness.
And don't give me any of that Queen in chess bull. Mewtwo would be a Queen in chess if the Queen had to be attacked twice to be taken off the chessboard.
That, or if people battled with all 151 Pokemon per battle.
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Mike M.
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posted 04-25-2002 12:31 AM
Why use Mewtwo? What is the fun of using him. He is so predictable. I don't even use TWaving Alakazam, I use Hypno. I don't whether Pokemon was designed to be overall balanced, but Mewtwo was designed to be the king of all pokemon. And indeed it is. With moves like barrier, amnesia, psychic and stats through the roof noone comes close. To use a chess analogy, that would be like giving all people a choice to replace all pawns with queens. The game would quickly degenerate into who can kill opponent's mewtwo first.
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