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mleo2003
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posted 03-25-2001 02:26 PM      Profile for mleo2003   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK I looked thourghly through this site and read everything having to do with Pokeon Battle and Team Selection. I have come up with this team. It took me awhile to think of this strategy, but I think it will work.

>>Dragonite
(FlyBoy)
Body Slam
Thunder Wave
Surf
Ice Beam

This is my starter b/c not everyone has an Ice type starter, or a Pokemon that knows an Ice attack. First, I Thunder Wave and then attack whatever is there. If they switch to there Ice, Body Slam might paralyze them, but it will significantly hurt them. Surf and Ice Beam are for the normal starters (Grnd Pokemon, Exeggutor)

>>Jolteon
(Golem)
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Pin Missile
Double Kick

My electric specialist, this Pokemon also does wonders against Psychics and Normals. Thunder Wave first, then attack. If a ground Pokemon comes out and Jolteon is the last one left, he has Double Kick to try to fend them off. His name is to confuse those who play against me on Stadium (since no one I know looks at the little Pictures.)

>>Snorlax
(Exlax)
Earthquake
Rest
Substitute
Body Slam

Like the Nickname? That is to confuse my opponent. His Body Slam is to paralyze his opponents, Earthquake for Electrics, Fires, and others, and if he gets hurt bad enough, Sub, then Rest.

>>Lapras
(SDude)
Ice Beam
Body Slam
Surf
Confuse Ray

My water Specialist, he implements my plan perfectly. Confuse Ray to confuse them, then use Body Slam to try to Paralyze them. Being confused and paralyzed is very frustrating. His Ice Beam and Surf is for the Ground, Rock, and Grass types out there.

>>Tauros
(BOB)
Blizzard
Earthquake
Body Slam
Thunderbolt

One of my sweepers, he also try to paralyze my enemy. Both Body Slam and Thunderbolt paralyze the enemy, and Blizzard might even freeze them. If any high special or Electric pokemon show there face, they will meet with a timely Earthquake.

>>Mewtwo
(OvrKll)
Psychic
Recover
Amnesia
Thunder

My last sweeper, he trys to take out anything left over. Amnesia up twice, Recover if necessary, then either Psychic or Thunder. Thunder will also paralyze my opponent, so all of my bases are covered.

This team relies on some luck, but with my solid starters and good finishers, this team should do fair. Any comments, though, are always welcome.

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Dragonite-Nice, but blizzard over ice beam, he doesn't have enough special to use ib.

Jolteon-Don't use double kick, it doesn't do squat to rocks, focus energy over it.

Snorlax-That's my name for him.Anyway,the set looks good.

Lapras-No body slam.I like:Surf,DT,Rest,and either Ice Beam or Thunder bolt.

Tauros-I tried this one and I found out that hyper beam is better than Thunder Bolt.

Mewtwo-Eh...?

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Woah...this needs some work...

First of all, I've never seen nicknames used as strategy...

But anyways...

Dragonite- You've got a good strategy, but replace surf with tbolt, and ice beam with Blizzard if you want, though I like ice beam.

Jolteon- I would never use jolteon, sinse he's shit...but try a DT/rest combo,if you don't like that, replace DK for Focus energy.

'lax- I don't know how the nickname would confuse oponents, but whatever. You don't need earthquake and Bodyslam on him, a bslam with stab should kill most electrics just as easy as earthquake. I like sub on him, very interesting, though I wouldn't use it. I reccomend replacing earthquake for amnesia (defensive purposes, if you do this, also replace sub for icebeam), or a special move, also consider hyperbeam, a snorlax hyperbeam KO's kazam.

Lapras- I no next to nothing about him, but I would reccomend switching Bodyslam (what's his attack?) or ice beam for Tbolt.

Tauros- This is horrible. Take of Tbolt, it is not neededd with his 238 special. Try giving him sub, or hyperbeam, piece 'em in somewhere.

Mewtwo- Jesus, if you're gonna use mewtwo, at least make him un-shitty. Thunder is a complete waste of potential, if you like the electtric move on him, replace it with Tbolt.

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Thanks for the comments.

I am still learning about team combinations and until I can actually fight against some smart trainers, I will never learn what are good movests and other stuff like that. I need to find some local kids who play the game and know what they are doing in battle to test my teams.

Again, thank you.

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Dragonite- yeah what everyone else has said. Dump surf for T-bolt and ice beam for Blizzard.

Jolteon- Umm good idea to fight off Golem/Rhydon...But if you want a electric to do that use Raichu with Surf.

Snorlax- Good.

Lapras- I think Jynx would go better in this group. But Use Blizzard t-bolt dt rest

Tauros- Two normals? Well since this isnt GS it can work. Switch T-bolt for HyperBeam.

Mewtwo- ::Coughs:: Cheap ::Coughs:: O umm good set for him even though I would use T-bolt then the only thing you have to worry about is a other Mewtwo.

7/10 because you use Mewtwo it dropped in my rankings. heh

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You should try the PBS for more strategy, cause dnite isn't a really great starter pokemon, maybe you belive not a lot of people use ice starters but the best example for that not happening is JYNX since she is somewhat a regular starter (for countering eggys i believe) anyway, i think you should try the PBS

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Thanks for the info.

I will probably swicth the order to put Tauros first and Dnite in the middle, with different movesets, of course.

I will try the PBS at TPM. It seems to be the best place for me to gain experience against smarter trainers. For instance (note: this was a battle between Gold and Silver, but the mechanics still aply) my freind was using his team of supped up Pokemon. I was also using my supped up team that I made by listing all the types and trying to caounter them all (newbie mistake). Anyway, I was able to take out 4 of his Pokemon with just my starter who had:

Thunder
Crunch (GS)
Spark (GS)
Dig

Then, the rest of his team went down to my Psychic (not Mewtwo). As you can see, the lack of smart trainers is hurting me in strategy. I will join TPM PBS.

Thanks for the advice.

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quote:
Originally posted by mleo2003:
Thanks for the info.

I will probably swicth the order to put Tauros first and Dnite in the middle, with different movesets, of course.

I will try the PBS at TPM. It seems to be the best place for me to gain experience against smarter trainers. For instance (note: this was a battle between Gold and Silver, but the mechanics still aply) my freind was using his team of supped up Pokemon. I was also using my supped up team that I made by listing all the types and trying to caounter them all (newbie mistake). Anyway, I was able to take out 4 of his Pokemon with just my starter who had:

Thunder
Crunch (GS)
Spark (GS)
Dig

Then, the rest of his team went down to my Psychic (not Mewtwo). As you can see, the lack of smart trainers is hurting me in strategy. I will join TPM PBS.

Thanks for the advice.


That line about TPM PBS having smart trainers...oh jesus...that...that just about killed me...*stillr rubbing tears from eyes*

Try AzurePBS...*still holding back laughter* Or TJ's.

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quote:
Originally posted by mleo2003:
Thanks for the info.
I will try the PBS at TPM. It seems to be the best place for me to gain experience against smarter trainers.


XD ROFLMAO!!!!!
....Like Pornbot said, go to TJ's or Azure's PBS, because:
1. TPM is one of the most (but not the worst mind you) newbie infested places.
2. You'll fight a LOT of cheaters there too.

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Could someone give me a link to Azure's PBS? I have looked on the site and unless it is hidden in one of the attack pages, I haven't found it. Please help me out.

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go to the links section

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it would be under online interaction or... you could thank me when i post it below

http://porygon.math.miami.edu:7137/

just copy and paste it onto your browser. Beware of the exit bug though

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Thanks a lot. Now I can learn how to battle truly advanced people (not to mention get my but kicked a couple of times.)

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I'm just glad to hear that someone new to the forum is actually using the website.

Let's get started.

Dragonite: Drop Ice Beam for Blizzard. low special and Dragonite doesn't last long. Chances are you'll want to drop Surf for Thunderbolt to deal with water/ice.

Jolteon: I've used this set before, and you have to choose between Pin Missile or Double Kick. This was one of my orignial sets for Jolteon, and I discarded it for something less practical but more useful: thunderwave thunderbolt, focus energy, sand attack. It's hard to pull off, but it works really well.

Like the lax, but I'm going to suggest getting rid of sub for something. If you want a bunch of ideas, here is a list of snorlax expert sets that I've been working on. He's my favourite for a reason, and I plan on mastering all of his sets eventually.

Lapras I never liked, and I never have a justification for that. The HP is great and all. The Paracon is a great strategy if it can be pulled off. However, you might want to make sure that the guy is paralysed before you confuse him, that way you will know if it is worth confusing him. If the opponent goes second, you get to find out if he's rid of confusion.

Tauros is way too cool, I use him a lot, and the set is interesting. Four attacks is a gamble, but if he's a sweeper, you have a good grasp of the concept.

Get rid of Mewtwo. Now. I can live with many things, but Mewtwo isn't one of them. I mean, let's face it, it's not a grep set, but it's still overkill. If you truly want to stay with it, ditch, thunder for thunderbolt. At 999 special, you'd rather have accuracy than power. However, I suggest you scrap him altogether for another Psychic such as either Starmie, Exeggutor, Slowbro, or Alakazam. Starmie set: Psychic, Surf, Recover, Thunderwave/Minimize. Exeggutor: not my specialty, and the same goes for Slowbro. Alakazam I can have fun wiht, and one of the standard sets that I use often is Thunderwave, Seismic Toss, Psychic, Recover.

Great team for a newcomer to Azure, and I commend you for actually looking at the page before posting a team. We seem to have less of that here. Just want to clear up some stuff. All pokémon teams are based on two things: strategy and luck. Strategy is your field, luck is up to the randomizer. You should really think about the starter. Some swear by teh faster paralysing starters (I love electrode) and others prefer ice types to stop the standard Exeggutor starter.

And for the love of all that is holy, don't ever go to TPM's pbs. Buncha cheating newbies that don't deserve to be called trainers. Use Azure (despite the constant updates, it's still the best, and the updates make it all the more better), or even TJ's (despite the lack of speed and updates).

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quote:
Originally posted by mleo2003:
OK I looked thourghly through this site and read everything having to do with Pokeon Battle and Team Selection. I have come up with this team. It took me awhile to think of this strategy, but I think it will work.

>>Dragonite
(FlyBoy)
Body Slam
Thunder Wave
Surf
Ice Beam

This is my starter b/c not everyone has an Ice type starter, or a Pokemon that knows an Ice attack. First, I Thunder Wave and then attack whatever is there. If they switch to there Ice, Body Slam might paralyze them, but it will significantly hurt them. Surf and Ice Beam are for the normal starters (Grnd Pokemon, Exeggutor)

>>Jolteon
(Golem)
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Pin Missile
Double Kick

My electric specialist, this Pokemon also does wonders against Psychics and Normals. Thunder Wave first, then attack. If a ground Pokemon comes out and Jolteon is the last one left, he has Double Kick to try to fend them off. His name is to confuse those who play against me on Stadium (since no one I know looks at the little Pictures.)

>>Snorlax
(Exlax)
Earthquake
Rest
Substitute
Body Slam

Like the Nickname? That is to confuse my opponent. His Body Slam is to paralyze his opponents, Earthquake for Electrics, Fires, and others, and if he gets hurt bad enough, Sub, then Rest.

>>Lapras
(SDude)
Ice Beam
Body Slam
Surf
Confuse Ray

My water Specialist, he implements my plan perfectly. Confuse Ray to confuse them, then use Body Slam to try to Paralyze them. Being confused and paralyzed is very frustrating. His Ice Beam and Surf is for the Ground, Rock, and Grass types out there.

>>Tauros
(BOB)
Blizzard
Earthquake
Body Slam
Thunderbolt

One of my sweepers, he also try to paralyze my enemy. Both Body Slam and Thunderbolt paralyze the enemy, and Blizzard might even freeze them. If any high special or Electric pokemon show there face, they will meet with a timely Earthquake.

>>Mewtwo
(OvrKll)
Psychic
Recover
Amnesia
Thunder

My last sweeper, he trys to take out anything left over. Amnesia up twice, Recover if necessary, then either Psychic or Thunder. Thunder will also paralyze my opponent, so all of my bases are covered.

This team relies on some luck, but with my solid starters and good finishers, this team should do fair. Any comments, though, are always welcome.


Dragonite- Like the nickname ^_~ ditch Ice Beam for Blizzard

Jolteon- Jolteon's Attack is too low for double Kick. Go with Focus Energy Instead.

Snorlax- Good Nickname. Moveset is good too.

Lapras- Hmmm... You can keep Body Slam if you like, or go with either Psychic or Thunderbolt.

Tauros- Lose Thunderbolt for for rest, and if you want, Blizzard for Double Team.

Mewtwo- Thunder is too inaccurate. Go with T-Bolt.

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Felix's Review

Thunderbolt on dragonite? I still don't undestand why people think this is good.
Seriously, folks. Dragonite is x4 weak to ice. When was the last time you saw a water type w/o an ice attack, aside from tobys? And what's the most common water out there? Starmie, who will get a IB or blizz in long before dragonite can say anything about it. What other waters? lapras? hypothetically, if a low-health lapras got brought in, then yes, I suppose Tbolt would be good... But does this slim possible use make it worthwhile? If they bring out a water, don't try to fight and get OHKOed by an Ice beam from whatever crap-water you think dragonite can handle just because is has the second (third?) best stats in the game. run the hell away. switch to lapras or jolteon and start thunderbolting.
I recommend body slam, blizzard, thunderwave and.... surf!

or, if you really don't want to be so redundant with an ice and a water move....
Hyperbeam!

well, I've probably jus lost everyone's respect by suggesting surf....

but the fact is, everyone tries to kill a dragon with either rocks or waters. if you know they'll switch, you always have to worry with dragonite... will they bring out starmie or rhydon? well, don't worry anymore. just twave, no matter what. if they bring out rhydon or golem, wipe the smug grin off their face with a surf. and if it's starmie, it'l get przed. then switch to lapras.

Jolteons suck, in general. the only thing they're good for is provoking a switch to ground, which you can anticipate.
If the ground dies, then jolteon rocks... but don't count on it. It's hard to kill grounds if they know or suspect you've got an electric.

As a rule of thumb:
Don't use jolteon unless each one of your other pokemon will rock rhydon's world. So go ahead and keep jolteon... give him Tbolt,Twave,Focus energy, and one of th following: substitute, reflect, pin missle, hyperbeam

Snorlax is a pokemon that can do a lot of things very well... some people are recommending you use a setup-lax, with amnesia... these laxes are pretty good. However, don' be discouraged. all physical laxes can rock. the only thing that gets pretty much every lax though, and can stop setup laxes in their tracks is, again, rhydon. The last lax I used (and I've used a lot) would be this guy: double-edge, self-destruct, substitute, surf. And it rocked. I kicked great valleys of ass with this lax... big, fat ass like you wouldn't believe. so that's my recommendation. Don't use EQ. you're not afraid of ghosts, are you? ;]

I like your lapras... mostly. you've already got a conservative stab attack with surf... why use another conservative stab attack like Ice beam? live dangerously! use blizzard! risk misses! confuse ray is alright, same with body slam. but ditch one of them. it's up to you. I personally don't think confusion is that great... on average the opponent loses 1.25 turns from it, I believe. and it takes one turn to c-ray them in the first place... and they might just hit you, and trade out... but it's up to you. all in all, I like lapras's.

Tauros rocks. I prefer raticate and persian, but my team is a sleep team, leaving room for raticate to setup. you're using a para team, so tauros is a better choice. good moveset, but I agree with everyone else. ditch Tbolt, get hyperbeam. Try it... you'll see why we like it.

As for mewtwo, I don't care. if you want to use him, fine. I personally don't use legendaries. If you're reconsidering using him, I should point out there is a whole in your lineup... though electrics are less common then they used to be, they are still a big threat. a FE'd jolteon could rock about half your team. So use a ground. I recommend trying out these three: rhydon, golem, and dugtrio (give duggy a chance!).

good luck.

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Thanks for all of your support.

I will probably switch this team around alot. Mewtwo will probably go for a ground Poke (thanks Felix) and I probably will replace Jolteon for a parrashuffle Zapdos. It's not that I like legendaries or anything (lie) but they are the one's that suit my needs best. Dragonite will probably get a makeover as he will no longer be the lead pokemon. I might lead with an Equaking, Blizzarding Poke that could also Paralze them (any suggestions).

Most of these changes come from my battles (losses) on the PBS here. but I have a slightly bigger problem, I could have the best team in the world, but if I don't know how to use it, I won't get anywhere. Can anyone help me in that department, or does anyone know of a website to go to for info.

Thanks in advance.

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quote:
Originally posted by mleo2003:
I could have the best team in the world, but if I don't know how to use it, I won't get anywhere.

Practice makes perfect. You just need more battle experience. Eventually, you learn how to make better decisions.
Of course, a thorough understanding of every Pokemon's capabilities is a plus.
Example: If you see Vaporeon, you know it'll atack with IceBeam or Surf.
Prediction is something very integral to being a Pokemon master.

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Felix,Blizzard will take out Rhydon and Golem as well as Surf can,along with most rock-sliding 'Slashs and Aerodactyl(I know Aero's got no rock moves...).

As for T-Bolt,only two water-types are faster than Draggy - 'Mie and Tentacruel,and if they switch,they'll get paralyzed and will become slower. Now I'm not saying that it's stupid to leave Draggy in against a Pokemon you know will have an ice move. If that happens,I'll switch to Lapras and use Thunderbolt(since it'll quad resist Blizzard). T-Bolt also takes out Articuno,who can't hold a candle to Draggy.

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