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the Master
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Psychic is a good attack for Lapras, especially in a team which not contain any Psychic Pokémon, like mine

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You haven't changed a bit, Tomara! And other guys, have some respect, Tomara is the only Dutch female player, I would call good.

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And me, I'm the ONLY French one on this forum...


Oops... I've forgotten D-Teclis (Dark-Teclis)

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Rate the final Masterteam :

CHANSEY - seismic toss / minimize / thunder-wave / softboiled

RHYDON - earthquake / rock slide / substitute / rest

VICTREEBEL - razor leaf / hyper beam / stun spore / swords dance

LAPRAS - surf / blizzard / psychic / confuse ray

NINETALES - flame thrower / dig / reflect / confuse ray

JOLTEON - thunderbolt / pin missile / thunder wave / focus energy

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But you aren't female

anyway,you're team is kinda standaard,I have my doubts on Victreebell,but it should work in overall.


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quote:
Originally posted by the Master:
This team has been rated 8,6/10 on Bulbagarden's forum...

You're worse of a newbie than I am! (Oh, wait...) If you go to the 'Garden's forum expecting to get a good rating you should have your head drilled. Heck, if you go there at all, you should have your head drilled.

Second, no one actually uses Hyperbeam on anything. It's too damn crappy.

But I have to admit, your team is improving greatly and doesn't look that bad either!


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quote:
Originally posted by Land und Leute:
But I have to admit, your team is improving greatly and doesn't look that bad either!



Yes,considering he wanted to use horn'drill on rhydon

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I used horn drill with the help of body slam, which may paralyse. But the results weren't satisfying.

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And I think dig is a good physical attack for Ninetales.

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quote:
Originally posted by Land und Leute:
No one actually uses Hyperbeam on anything. It's too damn crappy.


Really ? ! You didn't see lots of teams in your life
Trainers often use hyper beam on Snorlax, Dragonite... and Victreebel

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Actually no one uses hyper beam on snorlax or dragonite..... or victreebell

in fact, the most popular "hyper beamer" is probably venasaur

anyways, psychic is useless on lapras, it doesn't get STAB for it like alakazam AND are you really afraid of mankey or arbok?

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I'm not very afraid by them, but psychic could be useful against a Machamp. Don't forget that Fighting attack are effective against Ice Pokémon. Jolteon has already got thunderbolt, so why learn it to Lapras ?

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Because if someone switches away their Rhydon for something else, chances are it'll be something that water isn't effective against it, then you can take it with thunderbolt.

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Jolteon has already got thunderbolt, so why learn it to Lapras ?

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And I can also take it with psychic

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I hesitate : double edge or hyper beam for Victreebel ?

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Rate the FINAL Masterteam :

CHANSEY - seismic toss / minimize / thunder wave / softboiled

RHYDON - earthquake / rock slide / substitute / rest

LAPRAS - surf / blizzard / psychic / confuse ray

NINETALES - flame thrower / dig / reflect / confuse ray

JOLTEON - thunderbolt / pin missile / thunder wave / focus energy

PINSIR - guillotine / slash / submission / swords dance

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the first five are okay,but that Pinsir kinda sucks,it doesn't have the staying power to sword dance up,guillotine is a waste of space.
I don't see why you need sword dance,Pinsir has a nice attack and you have slash which is probably your main move because of submissions recoil...

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Hey, after TWO swords dances only, Pinsir's Attack will be elevated to 999... There's no recoil when you kill the ennemy (in Stadium).
Well... I hesitate between body slam and slash. With slash, you needn't any sword dances, and it's power is 105 with the help of a critical hit.
Body slam may paralyse, which can be useful after to use guillotine.
I don't know : body slam or slash ? ? ? ? ?

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Originally posted by the Master:
it's power is 105 with the help of a critical hit.

don't ch's DOUBLE the power? shouldn't it be 140?

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You're right, a critical-hit double the power. OK, Pinsir will keep slash

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quote:
Originally posted by the Master:
Rate the FINAL Masterteam :

CHANSEY - seismic toss / minimize / thunder wave / softboiled

RHYDON - earthquake / rock slide / substitute / rest

LAPRAS - surf / blizzard / psychic / confuse ray
T-bolt over psychic, If a Machamp comes along, switch.

NINETALES - flame thrower / dig / reflect / confuse ray
Are you using Ninetales for confuse ray? If you want an alternative, try Gengar with psychic, t-bolt, confuse ray, explosion. He'll also handle your Machamp "problem"

JOLTEON - thunderbolt / pin missile / thunder wave / focus energy

PINSIR - guillotine / slash / submission / swords dance
Remeber, don't mix stat boosters with critical hit moves. Give it s-toss, slash, submission, guillotine (definetly paralyze beforehand).
S-toss is for Gengar's.


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I use Ninetales for confuse ray, for his Special and his Speed too...
I'll use swords dance only when I'll need a submission. Slash is enough powerful : 140 with a critical hit.

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I'll use Dragonite instead of Pinsir

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Now, this is the F-I-N-A-L Masterteam :

CHANSEY - seismic toss / minimize / thunder wave / softboiled

RHYDON - earthquake / rock slide / substitute / rest

DRAGONITE - horn drill / hyper beam / ice beam / thunder wave

LAPRAS - surf / blizzard / psychic / confuse ray

NINETALES - flame thrower / dig / protection / confuse ray

JOLTEON - thunderbolt / pin missile / thunder wave / focus energy

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Now, this is the F-I-N-A-L Masterteam :

CHANSEY - seismic toss / minimize / thunder wave / softboiled

RHYDON - earthquake / rock slide / substitute / rest

DRAGONITE - horn drill / hyper beam / ice beam / thunder wave

LAPRAS - surf / blizzard / psychic / confuse ray

NINETALES - flame thrower / dig / reflect / confuse ray

JOLTEON - thunderbolt / pin missile / thunder wave / focus energy

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Use blizzard instead of ice beam on dragonite.

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I leart blizzard to Lapras, so it's too late

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Um...what's wrong with Hyper Beam?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dragonite21:
Um...what's wrong with Hyper Beam?


I don't know why they don't like this hyper beam...
A hyper beam by Dragonite makes more damages than Rhydon's earthquake.

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quote:
Originally posted by the Master:
A hyper beam by Dragonite makes more damages than Rhydon's earthquake.


Errr,take a look at the averages of each attack,earthquake has a better average.You'll get stab with rhydon.
Remeber,hyper beam needs 2 turns to work in stadium,even if you miss.

EDIT:hmm,i don't see why there is a comparison between H-beam and a earthquake from rhydon.

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quote:

EDIT:hmm,i don't see why there is a comparison between H-beam and a earthquake from rhydon.


It's to show how much hyper beam is powerful !

Rhydon - Att : 358
Earthquake
100 + STAB = 150

Dragonite - Att : 366
Hyperbeam
150

Same power, but Dragonite's Attack is higher than Rhydon's

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Considering the random factor fo the BDF, its pretty much the same.

You must consider the PP and recharge problem of HyperBeam when you compare it with Earthquake.

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I don't mean to be off topic or anything but this is one large post.And,it's a team rating post!

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This is nothing I've seen rating topics with more than 1000 posts.
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I just compare their power...
Hyper beam is a finish move, I'll use it when I'm sure to kill the ennemy.

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hee I should make a crap team so I can get lots of posts

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With thunder wave, Dragonite is a goos OHKO'er

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If you want a Water-type with Psychic, why not use Starmie?

That makes a lot more sense then Lapras.

Starmie: Surf, Blizzard, Psychic, Recover

(if you really want to keep a similar moveset).

Drop Ninetales altogether for Snorlax,Alakazam,Slowbro, etc.

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Lapras has the STAB for blizzard, and confuse ray.
Ninetales is useful.

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The F I N A L Masterteam

CHANSEY : seismic toss / minimize / thunder wave / softboiled

DRAGONITE : horn drill / hyper beam / ice beam / thunder wave

RHYDON : earthquake / rock slide / substitute / rest

LAPRAS : surf / blizzard / psychic / confuse ray

NINETALES : flame thrower / body slam / reflect / confuse ray

JOLTEON : thunderbolt / pin missile / thunder wave / focus energy

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quote:
Originally posted by the Master:
The F I N A L Masterteam


eerrr,wasn't it the same for your other versions :P

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Si, mais c'est pour faire plus de replies

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quote:
Originally posted by the Master:
Si, mais c'est pour faire plus de replies

*no comment*
tienslis un post de squall,qui fait une equipe moyenne et cherche a obtenir des replies )

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Je suis Fatigue

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quote:
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hee I should make a crap team so I can get lots of posts


I did that once.....

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Tu n'as pas le sens de l'humour Iceman

Tu n'es pas très observateur : Feunard avait tunnel et a plaquage maintenant

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quote:
Originally posted by D-Teclis:
*no comment*
tienslis un post de squall,qui fait une equipe moyenne et cherche a obtenir des replies )


Sauf que mon équipe est largement au-dessus de la moyenne

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So you wanna speak French?
Dan ga ik Nederlands praten,hehehe
Zijn hier eigenlijk nog andere Nederlanders naast N man allias Arty?

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Originally posted by the Master:
Tu n'as pas le sens de l'humour Iceman

Tu n'es pas très observateur : Feunard avait tunnel et a plaquage maintenant


je n'ai meme pas cherché à observer.

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teehee! just a thought: THE MASTER could be a paranoid schizophrenic stalker hacker serial killer. =P boy are you in trouble! :) -spunman about TheMaster


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