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There is the normal stuff to try to conserve battery life such as dim the screen brightness, turn off sounds, etc.

But extra stuff like turning off the augmented reality mode when capturing helps; doesn't turn on your camera.

And then there's the Battery Saver mode in the settings. When initiated, the game will automatically black out the display when you have your smartphone upside-down, but it won't stop tracking your steps and it will still notify you of nearby Pokemon. You just need to adjust your Sleep when Idle setting on your phone so it doesn't put the app to sleep.

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Thanks for the tips. Somehow I missed that. I'll try the app again later with a dedicated Trainer account (server overload hasn't allowed people to sign up). Niantic fixed the privacy mess with the most recent update.

It's amusing listening to people who have never heard of Pokemon try the app out. Yesterday's staff meeting consisted of people trying to explain what Pokemon is, and what it does based on the app, and how to deal with students looking for Pokemon in the building. It was a bit surreal, as nobody played the console games before.

Crashing gets worse in congested areas...so folks have said.

I work at a university campus that has programs for high school students too, so wondering how it will go with the Pokemon Go groups here. There are already several stops and a gym nearby.

I'll just grab my cap, skateboard, t-shirt and...


 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 07-13-2016, 12:41 PM:
 
I am officially addicted.

I took 15,000 steps yesterday - all because of this game.

My team still blows... and it seems the best strategy to progress is to catch as many pokemon as possible. Training at gyms is fun but doesn't give you much XP (not as much as just catching pokes - even crappy ones you have a million of) since that is how you get stardust and how you make them better.

also I don't understand hot to scale your pokes as you level - just ditch them for more powerful ones you catch? or spend tons of stardust trying to progress them?

I am mad at myself for the second time in my life missing buying stock in Nintendo/ForKids! prior to explosion. I would have made lots of money in a couple of days following the release - had I only known before!

My team:

GOlbat
Pigeotto (soon to be a Pidgeot later today)
Golbat
Golbat
Raticate
Scyther

I agree with Mentar - I am team Zapdos - way better than the fire chicken or that obama-voting freezer fag.

#DrillPeck
 

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Posted by Slade_64 (Member # 804) on 07-13-2016, 03:56 PM:
 

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also I don't understand hot to scale your pokes as you level - just ditch them for more powerful ones you catch? or spend tons of stardust trying to progress them?

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I'm still trying to figure that out myself. It seems that randomly catching more powerful ones and upgrading those pokemon is the way to go at the moment. Pokemon from eggs too can be very powerful alternative sources of powerful pokemon.

I just can't find/hatch any powerful enough to take on any gyms in my local area. There's 1 gym within walking distance from home and I'm too busy during or after work to go hunt at the workplace... It feels like I'll forever have a million ~200 CP pokemans.
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 07-13-2016, 09:21 PM:
 
I get that power levels are based on your level as a trainer, which is silly, but I haven't paid close enough attention to figure out if the ones you caught when you were Level 1 can be brought up to speed or whether they are simply hopeless biomass to be thrown into the blender and turned into candy.

On the other hand, I kinda don't care much at this point. This is only just barely a Pokemon game, and I'm OK with that.

I like exploring my neighborhood and I like getting out of the house (25km of walking and counting), so if all this turns out to be a trick to get some exercise and see the sights, that's cool. Also there's collecting.

I mostly play GTA games to explore maps and find the hidden objects, so this is plenty entertaining for me...for now.

If they decide to actually implement a real game behind all this, that would be awesome. Although I might need to upgrade my phone, and that's pretty weak, given that what passes for the actual game portion of the proceedings could have been written in BASIC on an old Atari.

But just walking around and meeting others doing the same crazy bullshit you're up to is super fun.
 

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Posted by starCaliber (Member # 268) on 07-14-2016, 04:47 AM:
 
man, i'm just shocked to learn that Mr. K has a privacy-ravaging smartphone
 

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Posted by starCaliber (Member # 268) on 07-14-2016, 04:24 PM:
 

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To make things worse, a now-deleted post showed the Poison Gas Pokémon Koffing appearing at the museum. Its appearance is indeed offensive to the millions of Holocaust victims who were killed by poisonous gas.

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yeah, dumping a few hours in this is making me yearn for more meat.

you know, you can play all the DS games using an emulator with a fast-forward button now.

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Also right after I wrote that I can't get into gyms, I not only got into but conquered the closest gym to my place this morning.

I expected gym challenges to get progressively more difficult, but I suppose every now and then a gang will take down a particularly tough single Pokemon and then not have something of a super-high level to squat it.

There was only a Caterpie and tougher-but-not-way-tougher-than-my-guys Pidgeot I was able to wear down after multiple rounds (of getting in without app crashes).

People were pulling into the parking lot as I left and my guy was dethroned before I got home, but now I at least understand the gym thing.

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I think one of the problems with this game is that it's about your trainer character, not your Pokemon. It seems like it wants to you to just dispose of your bestest buddies as soon as you get the very next one of the same species.

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Originally posted by MewtwoSama:
I hatched a Snorlax from a 10k egg today.

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T-mobile throttles my data internationally - and today it won't let me do anything in the game. The GPS works but not data, so nothing is transmitted to the game server. I went for a run to hatch some eggs and got no credit!

My pokemon and I are stronger for it

 

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-18-2016, 05:25 AM:
 
I think if you really like a pokemon you get early, you can eventually (late 20s, early 30s) raise that to max.

At low level, your XP-to-level is very small. This means you don't spend much time accumulating dust: it is best off saved, because you will soon be catching much more powerful monsters. At level 5 you can encounter up to level 11 monsters, at level 10 you can encounter up to level 21 monsters- that difference is huge, and you can skip paying for the upgrade in dust by doing so.

Once you level more, you'll be collecting huge amounts of XP between levels, and therefore huge amounts of dust. This means you can meaningfully start maxxing monsters of your choice, because you won't just be meeting their double CP brother the very next day.

Once you hit 20, eggs stop getting better.
Once you hit 30, encounters stop getting better.
40 appears to be a hard max, but no one has hit it yet. Levels get really hard, and gain you less. It's sort of a soft cap.

The game part is about catching monsters and collecting them. The real deal is about going cool places and seeing stuff. The game is set up for this by making some monsters really common in certain parks (there's one with a lot of magnetites here, and one with a bunch of dratini- the dratini park stays full until the cops come by and kick out all the kids). They are set up for all kinds of events, etc. We'll see if it stays even half this popular for a few months- I think it has a real chance.

The "pvp" part is a total joke. It is fun, and I play it, but the best part is watching the internet flip their shit about how unbalanced it is. In order to generate the stats of the monsters (the stats are stamina, attack, and defense- CP I think is just decorative, hit points are real though), they used the base stats of the monsters pushed through a formula. That's fuckdiculous if you are trying for balance, which, of course, they are not. Further, some moves are totally way too good, and others are truly awful, so if you roll up the crappy move that particular monster is just poo in the pvp.

If you care about the pvp, name an Eevee "Rainer" and feed it twenty five eevee souls, and it will evolve into Vaporeon. Then just spend all your dust on that guy. The trick only works the first time per account (there's other names for the others), but it actually does work. Vaporeon has good stats (just like in the real games if you ignore speed!), and has "water gun", which for no reason I can discern attacks faster than the 5 power moves, but is a 10 power moves, and thus does over double damage.

Super effective is x1.25.
Not very effective is x0.8.
Same type bonus is x1.25, which kind of defeats the purpose of super effective.

Anyway, I think anyone caring about the pvp part a lot is missing the point. It's just incredible to see a whole park full of pokemon players at all hours of the day, it's totally absurd to see just everyone from kids to adults playing the game.

Today at the park, I heard some little kid mispronouncing the name of a pokemon and getting the type wrong (Tangela), and the dad gently corrected him on both. That really blew my mind.
 

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-18-2016, 05:29 AM:
 
> then you add another pokemon until a spot opens, repeat.

You can't. If you level the gym up, someone else needs to add a pokemon, you can only have one per gym. If you are there with team, you install however many will fit, and then you ALL train at it. If you walk up to a huge gym all by yourself it seems like it takes a really long time to train at it long enough for it to gain prestige, but if you were trying to make it with that many people actually there, it would be really fast.

Gyms last for as long as it takes to drive to the next gym. I suspect they will make them a little easier to defend or something.
 

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Posted by Quetzalcoatl (Member # 411) on 07-18-2016, 09:44 AM:
 
Spotted groups of PoGo players in the park near home. Some kids on bikes stopped by to ask what pokemon were nearby. A guy even cranked down the window of his car and said "Gonna catch dat Pidgey?!" Saw some native pokes like raccoons and foxes trying to avoid groups of players walking in their direction.

Gyms lose prestige if you don't manage to defeat all the pokemon in it. A couple of Pidgeots went down and the prestige dropped at the local park gym.

If the game didn't stutter all the time, even the finger-mashing gym battles could be fun.

App continues to crash on Android (running it on a OnePlus 2 and tried it on a Moto Style X Pure - both pretty unstable). It sometimes freezes up doing basic things like catching pokemon (right when the pokeball stops glowing). There doesn't seem to be a repeatable cause to the crashes. I might try clearing the app cache and see if that helps, but the server overloads aren't helping. My character sometimes spazzes out on the world map, or slides around when I'm sitting down somewhere.

I kinda miss the clusterfuck of stats from the later console games though. I'm hoping, as other people said, this app starts a line of Pokemon games for mobile platforms. Until that happens, my mobile fix will be from GBC/GBA/DS emulators with Bluetooth wireless cable links.
 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 07-18-2016, 10:30 AM:
 

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my mobile fix will be from GBC/GBA/DS emulators with Bluetooth wireless cable links.

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Wait what?

Can you link a tutorial for getting pokemans on my Androids please? (for a noob)

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Today im gonna teach you all on how to enable linking with Pokemon R, S, E, FR, LG players around the world using your android device (tablet or smartphone) and MyBoy Emulator.

Things you will need :
1. Pokemon Roms Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire Red, Leaf Green.
2. My Boy Gba Emulator version 1.5.0 for android (Google it Full Version or Purchase in Play Store)
3. Strong Wireless Connection (Wifi) or Bluetooth.

Steps :

1.Download the Rom and Install the Emulator My Boy Gba Emulator version 1.5.0 in your android device
2.After Downloading/Installing Open the Emulator
3. Browse for the Rom you downloaded
4. Play and learn playing it yourself

Linking (All players must do this):
Bluetooth: Only for people who is near to each other
Wi-Fi: For people far to each other
1.Open your Bluetooth or Wifi (must be connected to Wireles Connection)
2. Open your Emulator
3. Open your Rom
4. Go to any Pokemon Center
5.Go to second Floor and talk to the last receptionist who is in charge of Link Room
6. Choose what you want to do with your friend (Colosseum, Trade, Mix Record) both must choose same choice.
7. Click Option
8. Click Link Remote > Wifi/
Wifi Server : The one who will host the game and who will give the IP address and Port number to other players
Wifi Client : The participants of the game, you must know the IP address and Port number of the Server
Bluetooth/
Bluetooth Server: The host of the game
Bluetooth Client : The participants of the game, must connect with the Server's bluetooth.

9.After that, a message will show that you must wait for the other players. After that you can now battle, trade or mix record with the other players.

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There are free versions (which allow linking up). I don't know what's the main differences are since I'm using the paid versions of My Boy!/My Oldboy!. Here are the Google Play store links:
GBA Free | GBA Paid | GB/GBC Free | GB/GBC Paid
(I'm sure you can scrounge an APK somewhere on teh lazy webs if you're feeling cheap.)
There's also John GBA and a How To here. I haven't used it, so I can't vouch for it.

The My Boy! and My OldBoy! emulators are really well-featured with save states and other goodies. They have support for different versions of cheat devices as well. I'm not sure if there are good DS emulators for Android yet (that have wide support and features), but the GBA and GBC generations are stable and compatible with every possible game. I think I'll wait a bit longer until DS emulators become more polished.

Afaik, Android is the only platform with wide link emulation support on mobile. I've seen some PC emulators have link emulation, like no$gba. GBA4iOS 2.x is the only iOS emulator I've seen with multiplayer. Never used it though, and no idea if it can operate with Android emulators.

Nothing is more convenient than having your GBA/GBC library in your pocket, especially when travelling light. Battery life is pretty good too--nowhere near as bad as PoGo on battery save mode.

Send me a PM if you have more questions.
 

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-18-2016, 12:35 PM:
 
"As for simplification of stats - you can tell they wanted to make it approachable to noobs and not give off a nerd smell that would hinder widespread adoption."

I think it is much nerdier to have an obscure arc with no annotation than to say "level 21 monster". Non-nerds have been dealing with that level of horseshit since the nineties, and certainly the aughties. The pokemon stat screen could have attack and defense without offending anyone.

What the game couldn't have, is even a small amount of the complexity of mainline pokemon. The gym interface is simple: your four options are "switch" (takes real time, a couple seconds, allowing the enemy to continue to attack), "punch" (tap faster to attack faster, up to a maximum rate determined solely by the move), "special" (once you built a glowing bar, long press to make the move happen), and "dodge" (swipe left or right when the screen flashes yellow to partially dodge the next attack).

Faster pokemon don't dodge better, or mitigate varying amounts. The core reason mainline pokemon even has anything besides hit points as a defensive stat is that physical and magical attacks are defended against differently, and this game totally lacks that. "Super effective" needs to be the small value that it is because if your boy only has one punch to swing.

They could (and probably will) add a bit of depth with some extra hidden complexity (they could change the multipliers for the special move, while leaving the builder move with lesser multipliers). But I doubt they are in any race for this. I'm sure that the number of people who are playing the game specifically to fight in gyms is really goddamned small. The game isn't made for that kind of gameplay.

Mainline pokemon has never succeeded at having a great deal of balance- even most of us here were only ever really offended at how the game seemed to go out of its way to make sure that Mewtwo had no counter in the game. That got fixed in the later games- at the very least, when the metallics launched it was clear that they were no longer trying to make a onemon game.

"But perhaps there will need to be a new section on Azure Heights to facillitate min/max research for those so inclined to dig deeper."

The game is simple enough, and the client APK readable enough, that a lot of the work has already been done in days. The Silph Road subreddit has a lot of the data, but like everything on reddit, you just have to browse through a mile of bullshit to find stuff. Eventually someone will create a good pokedex- probably its a matter of days or weeks.

In the mean time, here's a chart showing which pokemon can get which moves:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gAZUFAQQobIs I2wvVzkU_r7XrVwbaQv6cktaWnYzR4Q/htmlview?sle=true#

And here's a chart of max dps that seems to take the pokemon's attack value and the available moves into account:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets /d/18ZqGw9lIFD74exLAlfQC0I_NZf_7zqUKjkniigfcZmg/pubhtml?gid=2037705053&single=true

And you can find the base values here:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/077d6dea82d58b8febde54ae9729b1bf

But honestly, a lot of this is going to be combined into a webapp immediately, and the other big deal is that, unlike researching something for the chromatics that remains true FOREVER, this game can change everything overnight. I don't think anyone will need to be testing Toxic all night long this time around

"One thing I noticed is my Scyther has absolutely beast offense at only 204 CP - I've put him in against pokes 3x his CP and he dies but has taken a vaporeon down to half health using steel wing (15 power)"

Remember that the gym AI attacks at some fixed rate, which may or may not be a bug, and that the gym AI never dodges. So this means that you'll do better on offense than defense. Scyther seems to have decent stats, and Steel Wing seems better than Fury Cutter for him (mostly because Fury Cutter is pretty bad). Not well understood is how fast the special bar fills and how important that is- it doesn't seem to make a huge difference though (specials matter, but you probably wouldn't want a weaker builder just because it makes your specials happen faster). I haven't found anyone modelling that yet, but I'm sure it will happen.

"can someone explain how to hunt particular pokemon?"

If you mean, where are the cool monsters:
Go to a big park, and ask the other pokemon players where the good monsters live at. If you see scraggly people squatting under a gym, they'll be really happy to help.

If you mean, where the fuck is the Venusaur on the map:
A monster at 3 steps will hopefully share your display with 8 other monsters, many or all at 3 steps. Walk in a direction until the monster gets placed higher on the list. In the beta, these values were actual distance numbers, and they still are underneath, and are sorted as such. If your guy looks like he is getting relatively closer, keep going until something he does not. Then pick a different direction. This method isn't great, and a current bug prevents most players from seeing a monster going to two steps, but that bug happened like on Friday and will probably get fixed soon.

"number of footprints and the grass rustling is supposed to mean something right?"

0 footprints- hold still, monster will spawn on map.
1 footprint- you are about twenty walking seconds from the monster at most.
2 footprints- the monster is pretty fucking close, walk and see if it becomes three, if so, backtrack and try again.
3 footprints- the monster exists in a relatively large area around you, use its relative position with other 3 footprint monsters to hopefully get close before it despawns.

"DO pokemon appear more often near pokestops?"

In general yes, but this seems to be because the monsters are placed near where "XM" is in Ingress, and pokestops are often in places with a lot of "XM", which is somewhat related to cell phone activity. Monsters seem to spawn in similar locations often, but that's certainly no guarantee. The rustling grass seems to be related to this, but no one is really sure.

"This one time a hitmonlee with zero footprints was rustling all around me - but he never popped up."

That's a damned shame and probably a bug. At zero footprints, he should pop.

"How is incense different from the modules you put on pokestops?"

Incense draws pokemon just to you. Only you can see them and capture them. The incense works better if you are walking or biking, but you will encounter a few just sitting on your ass.

Lure modules attract pokemon that everyone can catch.

Neither of these draws pokemons from the surrounding environs, which will continue their normal whatevers- effectively, these items create new pokemon.

There's some evidence that incensed and lured pokemon may have, on average, better genes than fully wild ones. Hatched pokemon definitely do, though any monster can have any genes.

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 07-18-2016, 01:26 PM:
 
woooah great info thank you

Backup a bit...

What is the meaning of the different special moves blue bars? It can vary? The more bars or the fewer the better?

Pokemon in Pokemon Go! Have genes as well? For attack, defense, hps, CP? Or is it just for movesets? Is there a way to determine which genes your pokiemans have?
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 07-18-2016, 08:00 PM:
 
I'm gonna drive about an hour away to a place that spawns Dratini.

There's also a place I can bus to where Charmanders spawn.
 

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-19-2016, 12:05 AM:
 
IMO the jury is out on the value of the different special moves. Right now, I prefer the ones that are one long bar. These hit a bit harder than the ones with many little bars, but the big reason is that the cast time is way inflated over what I think it should be. I will often take several long presses to get the special move to fire, and I'd prefer to not be swinging and wiffing on activating due to shit servers. Basically, if activating a 50 power move takes as long as activating a 60 power move, I'd prefer to activate one 60 power move half as often, because the game fights you so hard on it.

Anyway, I don't trust the math on those yet, but, in theory, you would like the ones that both match your type, and have the most total power available per bar, which is usually the ones with the most "combo points". I just don't think that matters much yet, but I do think people will have real math on them before long. People are finally figuring out that they need to video tape stuff and then analyze that, etc. I'd give it a week and someone should have made a compelling case, assuming the devs don't change everything with some new fangled patch.

Why back in my day...

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"Pokemon in Pokemon Go! Have genes as well?"

Yes. The attack, defense, and stamina base stats are all modified by genes that go from 0 to 15. It is possible to reverse engineer them to an extent, and it looks like it will be completely possible soon. The problem is you need to know the level of the pokemon, which currently seems to involve either sniffing packets or guessing the level from the arc, like with a protractor. Then you can figure out the stamina gene exactly, and the attack and defense are trial and error until you get a combination that yields the CP you actually have.

If you're wondering if there is a fast and useful way to figure out which pidgey was chosen by the gods, I just don't think so. But I think it is coming.

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 07-19-2016, 05:41 PM:
 

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Today at the park, I heard some little kid mispronouncing the name of a pokemon and getting the type wrong (Tangela), and the dad gently corrected him on both. That really blew my mind.

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Welcome to the magical world of Being Old, folks! It won't be long before kids have never heard of your favorite band and think of your favorite movie as that old time classic with the guy who plays Grandpa on a show you've never heard of.

Also despite creating a web site for the purpose of discovering all the mysteries of Pokemon, I'm a little sad to learn the details of this game so soon. I kind of like not knowing exactly how everything works, and it seems that precise knowledge of the game guts really has no significant value until you're of high enough level that you've become somewhat jaded and bored with the idea of XP anyway.

Only the broad strokes matter at lower levels and even if you know all the details, it doesn't really make you a better player.

It looks like everything changes as you approach the endgame, but if I can take over gyms now with a squad of misfits and losers, I think I know alls I need to know and I'm happy with that.

One weird side effect of having clean server time only in the middle of the night and gym attacks being most effective when no one is defending, is that, all night long, weirdos in cars are staring at their phones in the parking lot of every church, market, and park in town. I drove slowly past some lots at around 4am and they all had at least one nerd stationed there.

I mean, sure, I was one of those nerds, but it's still creepy, right?
 

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-20-2016, 12:11 AM:
 
"I'm a little sad to learn the details of this game so soon."

I think there's tons we don't know yet, and I also think this game is super shallow in the pee vee pee, and I also think there's super DUPER tons we don't know about how the pokemon spawn in the world. Given that the game is a treasure hunt first, I feel there's tons more exploring to do and stuff.

And of course, if this was all the game that ever would be, I'd still probably agree with you. But we know that they'll probably do balance and content patches, so I don't think knowing everything is as big a deal as it would for a game that ships as a ROM.

"Only the broad strokes matter at lower levels and even if you know all the details, it doesn't really make you a better player."

Are you talking about the gym thing? Because I agree with that. But I found a special spawn point that has a pretty rare pokemon every time, and I've told no one about it. That's pretty cool, and I bet the game is filled with that sort of thing. But I tell everyone about the park with dratini that I spend all my damned time at. The treasure hunt part of this game is super fun, and they can keep it fun for a very long time pretty damned easily.

But the pvp system is totally stupid. Unlike the link battles on the carts, which offered infinite depth but mostly delivered a Mewtwo meta (which was still deep and fun, just a shadow of what the game could have been), I feel I beat it immediately, and it is all about time. They already made some changes (first gyms could be beaten with the banishment of the 1hp bug, then they patched the gym defenders to not be fully dodgeable), so probably they will keep making changes. The pvp balance seems absolutely unfinished, and I'm not sure what they are going for with the gyms at all anyway.

But there's a horse ranch near my work, and the neighborhood around it is filled with Ponyta and I don't think that's an accident and that's just so grand man it really is.

Also Rapidash gets like one shot by everything.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 07-20-2016, 01:30 AM:
 

 

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-20-2016, 04:34 AM:
 
When 32 dratini love each other very much...
 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 07-20-2016, 10:25 AM:
 
I caught a Dragonite with 46 cp - that has to be some sort of a record for suck
 

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Posted by starCaliber (Member # 268) on 07-21-2016, 05:49 AM:
 
so it's not news to this crowd, but playing in a city is basically cheating:



we saw literal thousands of people out at the waterfront tonight. somehow, i still don't have my gyarados, but god damn if that wasn't an efficient few hours.

i still wish the grind's focus was on training your monsters rather than on endlessly farming meat for Willow's obvious ground pidgeyburger and karp sushi operations, but this is turning out to be a pretty special experience all the same.

how's the lure volume in NAMBLANIA?

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 07-21-2016, 10:24 AM:
 

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so it's not news to this crowd, but playing in a city is basically cheating:



we saw literal thousands of people out at the waterfront tonight. somehow, i still don't have my gyarados, but god damn if that wasn't an efficient few hours.

i still wish the grind's focus was on training your monsters rather than on endlessly farming meat for Willow's obvious ground pidgeyburger and karp sushi operations, but this is turning out to be a pretty special experience all the same.

how's the lure volume in NAMBLANIA?

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Posted by NAMBLAMAN (Member # 3642) on 07-25-2016, 04:11 AM:
 
I was interested in what they were selling with Fedoraman, but Pinochet really sealed the deal.
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 07-25-2016, 08:40 PM:
 
I love the atmosphere this game creates. I stumbled on a Dragonair downtown Saturday evening, and as word spread hundreds of trainers crammed into a small part of the park.

Another time a Hitmonlee showed up, and I had to climb up a long staircase out of the river valley to reach it. People at the top were calling out encouragement ("C'mon, you've got 30 seconds left before it disappears!") I didn't find that one, but fortunately another one spawned nearby immediately after...

I agree it's kinda lame that as you level up, you frequently stumble across new Pokemon that are far stronger that the ones you caught earlier, even if you've been powering them up. It makes it rather pointless to do any powering up until you've leveled up your trainer a lot. I'm at level 21, which is where the XP requirements to go farther really take off, so hopefully I won't see much more of that.



I think my favourite current guy for gym battles is Starmie. He's got Water Gun and some type of Rock move as his charge move, which comes in handy a lot.

Scyther with two Bug attacks (and two Seakings with Mega Horn) are good for killing all the Hypnos that plague my area. My favourite of my several Hypnos has Shadow Ball, which is an asset.

One Seaking also has a Poison attack, which is nice for killing Fairy-type Clefables (also very common), as is my Pidgeot with Steel Wing.

Lapras is my toughest one and her Ice attacks are great, but it feels kinda cheap to use her given that she was already so high (1500-something) when I caught her.

I caught a Dragonite at CP 750 that I like (two Dragon attacks), but I never have enough matching candy to power him up.

I was really lacking for Electric types (only a low-CP Magnemite and a low-CP Voltorb), so I turned my first good Eevee into Jolteon. But then I got an even better one, who I made a Flareon. I'm looking forward to trying Flareon in battle...

Other promising up-and-comers that I'm looking forward to using once I get more stardust to level them up: Kingler, Machoke, Electabuzz.
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 07-25-2016, 08:47 PM:
 
Booyeah.



Wiggly's got a Dark quick move and a Fairy charge move, which seem to work pretty well, but for some reason the game never wants to put him in my default lineup, so I always have to edit it manually.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 07-27-2016, 02:30 AM:
 
I got another Snorlax and evolved my Pikachu. My Starmie is 95%


 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 07-27-2016, 11:38 AM:
 
Good lord! Nice Snorlaxen and pokemans!

What were the old Nintendo Rep go-tos?

Cron - Jolteon?
Grep - Mewtwo?
Sed - Starmie?

Are you guys using dust on them now then? I've been saving them all up for a future favorite I think

Bad news for me - Quito, Ecuador has no pokemons so I am running dry here until Kansas City in a couple of weeks.
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 08-02-2016, 07:24 AM:
 
You know, if Niantic weren't a bunch of totally incompetent nincompoops, this could be a pretty cool game.

The weekend update solved most of my crashing problems, and, sure, they removed one of the few aspects of the thing that makes it an actual game, but I thought they were making a sensible trade of functionality for stability.

Then when the new update came out and said it was going to fix simple Pokemon bookkeeping issues, I thought they were really getting their shit together. They had already moved the Transfer button from the Most Annoying Place Possible, so it seemed plausible that maybe a useful human had taken over and started righting the ship.

Well, this new update has made things worse than they ever were. Its new trick is letting me get to Level 3 of gym battle, crashing, and then refusing to let me battle again with a useless message that just says "Error".

Fuck these guys.

Over the weekend I was actually able to have semi-fun battles, like taking down the Pinsir patrol with a squadron of Pigeots. It was fun to do something useful with those flying vermin.

Got my first Jigglypuff and Pikachu this weekend as well. But now it's all poop again.

How is it that the part of the game that requires MAPPING THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET is smooth and graceful, but the parts that are more simplistic than a 20-year old black-and-white beep-boop game kill my phone?

I'd have some sympathy for them if this wasn't literally a billion dollar operation.

I don't understand driving their customers away. Unless they've done research and discovered that players suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome make more in-app purchases.

I don't think so, though. I read an interview with the CEO and he is clearly out of his depth. Well, unless that's an act too. If so, he's pretty good at playing dumb.

Also nice Wiggly.
 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 08-02-2016, 09:21 AM:
 
Mr. K the gamification of frustration is a product feature; just like the maddening unbalance of Red/Blue, the terrible moves and the pitiless obsolescence of 50% of pokemon - somehow added an additional layer of challenge and reward to those, like Ash Ketchum, brave enough to see it through.

You are this person, Mr. Ketchum!
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 08-02-2016, 10:49 PM:
 
It sucks that in the general case, almost all stats are irrelevant. Sure, you can find something with good genes and the most efficient attacks, but since fights are 6-on-1, a few hundred CP here or there make no real difference.

Only order of magnitude differences really matter at all. You can use half a dozen water Pokemon with water moves to take down that Vaporeon and he'll fall. If you use a tiny bit of strategy, you can take down a second opponent, and if you apply some actual thought and have some reasonable options, you can take down three guys all on your own.

But all of it only lasts until the next guys arrive in the parking lot and undo your work.

In a way, that's kind of cool, because it means even at low level, when you go to gym, you can have some fun. But on the other hand, it doesn't really reward serious strategy.

I suppose that's fine and maybe as "on purpose" as anything is purposeful in this game. I mostly want to hunt Pokemon anyway. Would be nice if they'd give me a reasonable way to do that.

And if they're only going to crash me when I try to have a gym battle, they could at least fail the second I try to open it, rather than right at the moment of victory.

There should be an option to replace all the 3D floofery with sprites. Then I could probably even enjoy the AR. I'm guessing that's what the problem has to be. Otherwise, why would it die when I'm simply going through my list of Pokemon and transferring and organizing and such? I don't need to see a million identically rendered rats to work on that.

On that note, if they are going to waste the cycles drawing shit that doesn't matter, the Pokemon should be in some way potentially different from each other. Like, I should be able to say, "I just can't get rid of that Pinsir in the blue hat and that Caterpie with the red scarf...I got them on vacation!" instead of, "Eh, another one. Throw it in the chipper shredder with the rest of them and let my children suck on the marrow."

Also I saw that Magikarp candy stuffing image on imgur and almost changed it to the Karp Park image, but then I remembered that I am lazy so I didn't do it.

[ 08-02-2016, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: Mr. K ]
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 08-03-2016, 12:26 AM:
 
OK, so, as an experiment I check the local gym which I can see from my house to see if it'll crash my phone just sitting there.

I let it just do the animation for 10 minutes or so. Everything seems fine. I can cycle through the Pokemon challengers and see there are 2 guys on my team (Blue) in there and an empty spot.

Wintermute has told me recently that you can collect coins as soon as you put someone in the gym, so I think maybe I'll test that. I'd like another incubator, and maybe I can load a guy into the gym without it crashing. I wait another 10 minutes to see if anything changes. Nothing.

I actually drive over there and in the time it takes to get there, the gym has flipped Red. Well, fuck.

But it's just the usual Vaporeon crap, so I decide to see if I can complete a fight. It actually works, and I take over the gym and insert my guy. I go to the Items screen to collect my coins. Oh, wait, it's not items, it's Shop.

Game crashes.

I look up and there's a parked car near me. Goddammit.

By the time I get back into the game, the gym has been taken over by Yellow. I look around and there are all kinds of headlights in the parking lot now.

Fuck it all.

I just want to see how the goddam game works, can't we not crash for 30 more seconds?

Side note: Gym is Red again now.
 

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Posted by Quetzalcoatl (Member # 411) on 08-03-2016, 09:51 AM:
 
It didn't take long for a virtual Android machine to play Pokemon Go: Nox App Player for PC

It's handy for people who don't have Pokemon Go in their country. You can use your existing account created on your phone.

The app still crashes, but not as often on mobile.

[ 08-03-2016, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: Quetzalcoatl ]
 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 08-03-2016, 03:45 PM:
 
This thread delivers!

Also Mr. K needs a blog and to post by the time I re-visit this site, each time.
 

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Posted by starCaliber (Member # 268) on 08-04-2016, 03:35 AM:
 
my crew and i are feeling overexposed and disinterested in the game for now. there just isn't... anything to do yet. i spent an evening last week just grinding catches for about 5 hours and i felt more "addicted" than "entertained."

i want to see:

-- actual battling that allows you to challenge trainers in you area for coins/xp/whatever

-- the battling system revamped to either play like the RPGs, or failing that, to at least incorporate formal strategy, fighting game twitch mechanics, or both

-- an ability to train up your own pokemon thru means other than continued catches. like maybe holding your phone out and having a member of your party animated and dancing around the screen while you walk could be like "taking your pokemon for a walk" and it levels up that way instead of with the dumb candy bullshit

-- a more engaging way to create an individual imprint on the game world than LOL TEAM BLUEBERRIES CONTROLS THE INNER BUMBLEFUCK PRODUCE HUT #8 GYM oh fuck team bloody tampon took it back

also holy god can we trade pokeys yet or have literally any human interaction at all
 

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Posted by Dragonite21 (Member # 475) on 08-04-2016, 06:45 AM:
 

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i want to see:
-- stuff

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Originally posted by Mr. K:
Welcome to the magical world of Being Old, folks! It won't be long before kids have never heard of your favorite band and think of your favorite movie as that old time classic with the guy who plays Grandpa on a show you've never heard of.

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Originally posted by Dragonite21:
sc is it not enough that you have lived to see a two-page Azure Heights thread in 2016, the prompting of which is the most amazing thing about this game

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Originally posted by starCaliber:
as usual, a third party has improved upon their efforts.[/QB]

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Originally posted by NAMBLAMAN:
> Nox app

Risky if with your main account IMO.

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Always a possibility to get flagged, though they have banned bots with high levels (high 30s to 40) and people selling bottled accounts. People who jump locations too fast are getting soft banned where their account is partially disabled for a short period of time. I've read of folks turning the app during fast travel (e.g. fast train or plane) and have the same soft ban happen to them.

It's not my main account, but I feel like what little interest in the game I have left isn't being helped by grinding levels and constant server crashing to get the Pokemon I want. I wonder if this is how they're funneling people into the shop to bypass the freemium drudgery. If the situation was less crappy, then I'd stick to playing solely on mobile.

With the new wristband that automates catching and farming Pokemon to a simple button click, a lot of 3rd parties want to look into exploiting that. I'm curious how the company will deal with the new wave of bots as more countries are being deployed to as well.

[ 08-06-2016, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Quetzalcoatl ]
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 08-07-2016, 01:19 PM:
 
My friend's shitty old Android crashes a ton and actually loses Pokemon on occasion.

My stupid iPhone 6s never has problems. I noticed when riding shotgun I get a farther draw distance, so I can see further away gyms.

*This post brought to you by the Gengar of Steve Jobs
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 08-20-2016, 11:53 AM:
 
I'm finding Lapras harder to counter than Dragonite, mainly since electrics are so underpowered in this game.
 

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Posted by Mr.E (Member # 696) on 08-21-2016, 06:09 AM:
 
I don't have a smartphone, and frankly I don't think I'd subject myself to it anyway as a self-respecting actual mons player, but I like how Go has brought together so many old faces here to talk about it and for a short time also made Pokémon incredibly mainstream.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 08-24-2016, 02:08 PM:
 
Got Lapras and Porygon last night.

Last ones I need: Venusaur, Vileplume, Victreebell, Gengar, Hypno, Weezing, Muk and Dragonite
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 09-08-2016, 10:52 PM:
 
Caught a 100% Chansey.
Caught a decent wild Victreebel and a terrible Venusaur.

As soon as this buddy system is live, I think I'll go with Grimer first.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 09-18-2016, 02:35 PM:
 
Hypno and Muk continue to elude me.

Currently have a stable of 10 Snorlax and a kennel of 15 Arcanine. My Dragonite is at 2950.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 09-24-2016, 01:40 PM:
 
142 complete.

2 evolved Dragonites
2 evolved Gyarados
19 Snorlax
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 10-12-2016, 02:17 AM:
 
Is 142 the max available?

I discovered that my iPhone has half as much RAM as all the newer iPhones, so it's never going to work. I might be getting a new one for different reasons soon-ish, so maybe I'll be able to play then.

Is anyone still playing or did I miss it?
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 10-13-2016, 12:08 PM:
 
142
Mime is Europe exclusive
Farfetch'd is Asia
Kangaskhan is Australia

No Ditto. No legendaries. No Mew or Mewtwo.

My current goal is to hold 20 gyms nightly. My last cash in was 18.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 10-26-2016, 12:46 PM:
 


Last night I used up 300 Great Balls and about 50 Ultras.

Caught a bunch of crappy Hypno (Drowzee and Hypno are super rare in my neck of the woods), 3 Gengars, and enough Dratini to finish up my 3rd Dragonite.
 

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Posted by starCaliber (Member # 268) on 11-01-2016, 09:34 PM:
 

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Originally posted by Mr. K:
Is anyone still playing or did I miss it?

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did they add anything to do yet?
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 11-07-2016, 10:56 AM:
 
Welp, this speed limit shit just killed the game for me.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 12-16-2016, 03:26 AM:
 
New tracker isn't too bad
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 01-04-2017, 02:45 PM:
 
All I'm missing is Pichu and I'll have a complete Pokedex again.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 02-17-2017, 12:15 PM:
 
Gen 2 is here!

I want a Wobbuffet so bad!
 

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Posted by Mr.E (Member # 696) on 03-13-2017, 09:12 PM:
 
That makes me just now think about the fact that the forum background is Wobbuffet-colored.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 04-23-2017, 10:56 AM:
 
Level 39
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 05-22-2017, 01:21 PM:
 
I have evolved 5 Dragonites so far. 4 of them got Hyper Beam. Ugh.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 06-16-2017, 04:52 PM:
 

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Originally posted by MewtwoSama:
Level 39

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And 40. Game over man.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 06-26-2017, 02:04 AM:
 
Anybody go Raiding yet?

My first raid was a Lapras
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 07-31-2017, 05:28 PM:
 
One of these days I am totally going to get a new phone.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 08-03-2017, 03:15 AM:
 
I got my first Lugia on a critical first ball.

Today I got a 98% Fire Chicken.
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 02-05-2018, 07:53 PM:
 
I am cheap.


 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 02-25-2018, 09:32 PM:
 
OK HAY WHAT WHAT I HAVE A NEW PHONE NOW SO OK LETS PLAY HOW NOW WHAT

There are now a ton of Pokemon I don't recognize and there was a raid down at the market and I went there and got slaughtered but now my Vaporeon is whoring itself out on the street corner turning coins for me and I have a Koffing buddy floating next to me eating candy and I found a real dollar bill on the sidewalk and there is some kind of "poke poke into the bush" minigame that makes you look like an idiot and it matters when it's sunny and now you don't have to hold down on the screen during a fight and I can see whole fights without crashing and they tell you to go to landmarks to find certain monsters and there is new froots and I fed someone else's bear thing and I am still not sure if there is a game here.

Is there any reasonable way to train a Pokemon, or do you just level up and throw everyone away when you get better d00ds? My Koffing followed me around for a while, but he's still hopeless. Knows Tackle and some other non-poison move. But he's friendly and people like him.

Also hello.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 03-01-2018, 11:51 PM:
 
I'm at 62 million XP
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 04-11-2018, 09:17 PM:
 
I'm at 62 million XP

Impressive! I just hit Level 40 over the weekend (20 million XP). I also caught a second Mewtwo, but its genes are even worse than the first one.

I am stuck on the quest to get Mew until I can find another Ditto.

"poke poke into the bush" minigame

Huh?
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 04-23-2018, 02:41 PM:
 
It was under there the whole time!


 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 05-02-2018, 03:23 AM:
 

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Originally posted by White Cat:
"poke poke into the bush" minigame

Huh?

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Is there any plan to make any of this meaningful?

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Originally posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax:
I think I'll start heroin before I ever taste that because being able to hustle pubescent noobs in 6v6 via voice chat using a team of Red/Blue classics gives me a boner and I think that potentially qualifies me as a sex offender.

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me too thanks
 

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Posted by 10,000Lb.Snorlax (Member # 13) on 05-30-2018, 08:22 AM:
 
New pokemon game announced for Nintendo Switch

PS - I love the fact that Wigglytuff was OP for a hot minute. Hope you were able to enjoy that Mr. K.
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 06-09-2018, 02:49 AM:
 
Back in the old gym system, since I could never seem to evolve a decent Fighting type, I used multiple Pound/Hyperbeam Wigglies (plus one with Play Rough) with 1400-1600 CP to prestige against Snorlax.

I still keep them around, but haven't been able to find a good use for them anymore.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 06-11-2018, 11:16 AM:
 
Wigglytuff goes in pink gyms. And then gets depressed when the 6th drop is a fucking Rhydon.
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 06-20-2018, 03:46 PM:
 
Who wants to trade?
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 06-24-2018, 11:28 AM:
 
384445166282
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 07-23-2018, 04:06 PM:
 
MewtwoSama: Wigglytuff goes in pink gyms. And then gets depressed when the 6th drop is a fucking Rhydon.

I've seen this exact phenomenon happening around here. Some team's got a nice theme going and then some turd a drops in a Rhydon and ruins the whole thing.

Is the Rhydon famous for being a combo breaker?
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 07-26-2018, 03:34 AM:
 
3407 8063 4082

I'm not sure why someone would drop a Rhydon in a pink-themed gym, but if I saw a friendly gym with a bunch of Pokemon weak to Electric or Fire, I would probably leave one to make it harder to sweep through them.

More commonly, I'll leave a Xatu or Scyther in gyms with multiple defenders weak to Fighting (Blissey, Snorlax, Slaking, etc).
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 01-12-2019, 03:58 AM:
 
Best Friends during Community Day
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 01-12-2019, 10:49 PM:
 
I got me a bunch of Heatlamps today.

The lack of a game seems to actually make it a better game. If you had to concentrate too hard, you might as well sit inside. But paying just enough attention to wander into traffic if you aren't careful seems to be the sweet spot for getting you out of the house, and interacting with other humans if you want to take down a big spud.

I kept complaining about it not being much of a game, but it sure hasn't stopped me from picking it up every day. I am probably cutting the lifetime of my phone battery in half by burning it down with all these unnecessary polygons.
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 01-15-2019, 04:40 PM:
 
Sama, I sent you a PM about best friends level-up.
 

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 07-13-2019, 03:43 PM:
 
They finally added a Fairy-type fast move (Charm).

Wigglytuff is pretty good in Great Cup now.
 

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Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 07-16-2019, 09:33 PM:
 
It turns out I only have 4 genetically perfect Pokemon (they finally added decent evaluation and search capability!), and one of them is a Wigglytuff I'd already maxed out.

Now he knows 3 Fairy moves is ready to meet any Dragonite in a dark alley for a nonconsensual beatdown.

Oh, and one of my other perfects is that thing that can evolve into a Hitmonlee. I wonder if there's a way to make choose Lee.

Also even after catching over 200 Koffings, they are all terrible. Just like when played Pokemon Blue.

I don't know what this Team Rocket stuff is about yet.

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Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 08-01-2019, 09:33 AM:
 
That is awesome about the hundo Wiggly!

I've collected quite a few perfects; my most used are Machamp (Counter/Dynamic Punch, for beating down Blissey in gyms) and Gengar (Lick/Shadow Ball, for maximum DPS against Mewtwo and other Psychics in raids).

Just for fun, I keep a 100% Fearow and a 0% Spearow.

Tyrogue evolves into Hitmonlee if its attack IV/gene is the highest. (High defense = Chan, high HP = Top.) If there's a tie, then it's random.

I'm enjoying the Team Rocket battles -- much more challenging than the team leader PvP bots. I got my silver medal against them last night.

Watch for if they ever put Koffing into the rotation of shadow Pokemon you can rescue from TR, because purifying them boosts all their IVs by +2, so it gives you a better chance of getting a good one. I scored a perfect Crobat that way.

Send me a friend invite -- once we get to Ultra level we can do remote PvP. 3407 8063 4082
 

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Posted by MewtwoSama (Member # 12) on 02-06-2020, 03:40 AM:
 
Go Battle League is pretty fun.

Seeing a lot of Wigglytuff
 

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