That's right, make it so that no one can obtain these Pokemon through normal means, not even through special machines (a la Mew).
So what's the point of them then?
1) Powerful final boss for Gameboy AND Stadium.
2) A reason to fear Nintendo reps, and give the reps a tactical advantage. They ARE supposed to be hard to beat after all. It also keeps a match from degenerating into a M2 vs M2 bout like in the days of old.
And I think Nintendo should emphasize that using this Pokemon in a link battle is illegal unless it's a tourney match and the user is a rep.
It keeps the concept of the "super legendary" while still giving them a reason to be cheap. They're the thing you're supposed to beat when you go to tourneys, but won't corrupt the metagame that happens among friends to the extent that Mewtwo and these days, teams having M2, Lugia, AND Houou have done. If you try to focus too much on a strategy that is guaranteed to wipe out these new super legendaries, then you run the risk of being taken out by a team that doesn't use them with relative ease.
Opponent: "Hey! How the hell did you get that Charcolt?"
Rep: "Um...beat the Elite 4 at least 17 times in one hour, then catch every Pokemon (you must use a Poke Ball). Then, after going to Cinnabar Island and Surfing until you drown, wait exactly 500 days after that, and you'll fight Charcolt!"
Yeah, right.
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Originally posted by Jolt135:
And then, the reps would HAVE to admit to sharking.Opponent: "Hey! How the hell did you get that Charcolt?"
Rep: "Um...beat the Elite 4 at least 17 times in one hour, then catch every Pokemon (you must use a Poke Ball). Then, after going to Cinnabar Island and Surfing until you drown, wait exactly 500 days after that, and you'll fight Charcolt!"
Yeah, right.
I think he was referring to Mewtwo, Ho-Oh and Lugia....
It never made any sense that a whole bunch of people had Mewtwos or that a dumb little kid in a cap could capture Mewtwo.
I mean, it does make sense that Mewtwo is friggin' unstoppable, it just doesn't make sense that when 2 kids meet on the street, they both whip theirs out.
Like for the new Ubers, and you have to see them to get a pokedex entry. So, to have a complete Dex, you would have to go to Tournies.
Also, they would be at level 100, so this would give your level 100 team something to aspire to once it reaches that point.
THE NEW SLOGAN CAN BE:
POKEMON - YOU CAN'T CATCH THEM ALL!!!!
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Originally posted by Mew's Dad:
I can just imagine the rumours that would spring up if they released such a game.
Such as How to actually get the ungettable ones?
Better idea on removing M2/Etc, is to make a game without their codes in it; It'll be like getting Marrill in Red/Blue all over again, but it won't exist, either way!
quote:This thread was almost right on. Scary. Can you predict the end of the world now?
Originally posted by SDShamshel:
Make then inaccessible.
quote:Lugia is not in circulation, yet...
Originally posted by Tghost:
One problem with this, though, is that Mewtwo, Lugia and Ho-oh are already in circulation. To cut them out in the next game would lose alot of newbies from ever playing the thing...and newbies are sales....so, if they did do something like this, it'd be to any new super-legendaries they added...which could be really beefy in stats and moves, so they actually are hard to beat...and, the current super-legendaries could be decreased in power with stat tweaks or move tweaks or adding in more counters to them...
quote:This is an old-ass post, so he was talking about G/S/C...
Originally posted by MK:
quote:Lugia is not in circulation, yet...
Originally posted by Tghost:
One problem with this, though, is that Mewtwo, Lugia and Ho-oh are already in circulation. To cut them out in the next game would lose alot of newbies from ever playing the thing...and newbies are sales....so, if they did do something like this, it'd be to any new super-legendaries they added...which could be really beefy in stats and moves, so they actually are hard to beat...and, the current super-legendaries could be decreased in power with stat tweaks or move tweaks or adding in more counters to them...
quote:The super-duper legendaries are still promos like before (Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys). You can't catch Celebi (unless you live in Japan). The Ho-Oh challenge is just plain tedious, not necessarily hard. Deoxys just has a special trait that gives it different forms/stats in a specific version - much like Castform has different forms in different weather conditions.
Now, the game is a clutter of items required to get these super-legendaries, and you can't catch this pokémon, and you need to finish this GC game on ultra hard to get this one, and this you can't even get, and that one changes appearance in every game etc.
quote:Well, really only the first few berries are the ones that matter. The rest are just for building PokéBlocks and those are just for Contest stat building. Personally, I'm not into the Contests. I'm more into breeding/raising a team for battling. The drawback is that there's really nobody up here to battle with. But it's fun to build a team.
Originally posted by Lark84:
Thanks for clearing that up for me. It wasn't as bad as I thought, though I still think that too much of the game is kept from the player, like the berries, and 4 promo pokémon (the Jirachi preorder deal wasn't available here).
quote:"From: Sweden"
Originally posted by MK:
Lark84, where do you hail from?