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Posted by Pokemaniac Will (Member # 2395) on 12-24-2001, 06:41 PM:
Yes, I'm back because I realized that annoying you guys is a heck of a lot more fun than going on the GB Station Forums with newbs. Ok, onto the dreaded post everyone loves to hate but always comes to rate. Heh, even rhymes.

Baton Pass
Kinda standard. Speeds up with Agility and uses Amnesia and then BPs to...

Marowak@Thick Club
Rock Slide
Swords Dance
Yes, another standard. Instead of JoltWak it's RigWak. I'd take 516 Spc Def to 258 any day.

Kangaskhan@Mint Berry
Body Slam
Counterkhan. Rest is to restore HP, Body Slam in case I need an attack for Paralysis and E-Quake is a solid move.

This is a new set I thought up. Reflect guards against Rock weakness and HP-Grass is there for backup against Water and Ground types with Rock Slide. Saved me against an Octillery once, in fact. Anyways, Roar is there because a Roarer is needed in every team.

Ice Beam/Earthquake (A little help here)
My Hazer. Counter since it's Defense isn't that good, Leftovers is recovery cause I didn't really want a MintyRest here since I wanted another Attacking Attack, which is Ice Beam or Earthquake, which I can't choose. They both beat one main weakness but I'm not sure which to choose.

A Raikou without Crunch?! Yes, it's true. I needed more Grass backup than just Charizard's HP Grass because it's not something I'd switch in when Rhydon is there. Well, I could if it's using Earthquake, but that's not besides the point. And since I don't use Grass types, and I wanted Roar and Reflect, and another Grass move, well, Crunch just doesn't fit in here. It only beats Psychic and Ghost, anyway and won't do that much more than T-Bolt.

[ 12-24-2001: Message edited by: Pokemaniac Will ]

Posted by Tghost (Member # 1418) on 12-24-2001, 07:13 PM:
But, at least at GBStation you're among your own kind....
Posted by Pokemaniac Will (Member # 2395) on 12-24-2001, 07:20 PM:
Look who's talking, TGhost.
Posted by SDShamshel (Member # 791) on 12-24-2001, 08:17 PM:
Yes, we are seeing who's talking: TGhost, one of the most innovative players I've ever seen. He's also a nice guy.

As opposed to you: Some guy who thinks just because he has the words "POKEMAN MASTR" on a piece of paper, that certifies him to be the authority on Pokemon.

And to answer your question. This is what I am going to do about it.

*points and laughs*

Posted by Pokemaniac Will (Member # 2395) on 12-24-2001, 08:38 PM:
Yes, we are seeing who's talking: TGhost, one of the most innovative players I've ever seen. He's also a nice guy.

Oh yeah, a nice guy will make fun of someone who didn't do anything to him. Yep, that's a real nice guy.

As opposed to you: Some guy who thinks just because he has the words "POKEMAN MASTR" on a piece of paper, that certifies him to be the authority on Pokemon.

Look, I don't know who you are but you think you know everything just because you try to be a bully. Big f-ing whoop, all right? You know nothing, and since everyone is behind oyu you automatically think that makes you right, popular opinion. But it doesn't, all right?

Posted by Jumpman16 (Member # 1089) on 12-24-2001, 08:57 PM:
Posted by SDShamshel (Member # 791) on 12-24-2001, 09:08 PM:
Originally posted by Jumpman16:

Posted by Kiseiju (Member # 2421) on 12-24-2001, 09:18 PM:
Two words of advice Will:

1. Watch out for encoring Jumpluff. It will consistently rape your BP'er and it's not an extremely uncommon starter. Other than that I might suggest using Return rather than Psychic if you run into a lot of low defense starters like Jumpluff and Jolteon.

2. Don't retaliate. Just go with the flow here Will. People may not like you now, but they might eventually if you don't bicker with them. Just take it in stride.

Posted by cHi-cHi (Member # 2385) on 12-24-2001, 10:46 PM:
hey give me a link to that "GBstation" site will ya?

anyways, good team.if your politoad takes earthquake give raikou hp-ice.

Posted by Jolteon X (Member # 284) on 12-25-2001, 12:11 AM:

Just kidding. Your team looks like it would do pretty well. I am not sure about Politoed's attack power, so can't help you there. I would put HP Ice or Water on Raikou.

Posted by DarkLickitung (Member # 1672) on 12-25-2001, 01:20 AM:
Topic: Yes, I Am Back So What Are You Going To Do About It?

Kill myself.

Posted by Noisy Phanpy (Member # 2394) on 12-25-2001, 01:55 AM:
I'm not back.. but I must say something:

Even if you hate Pokemaniac Will, if he's in the forums.. he's in the forums. I don't think that insulting him will make things any better, he made it clear for everyone.. he's back and he doesn't care if you dislike him.

However, Pokemaniac Will, try to control your anger, at the end you will only gain more respect and the people who insulted you will eventually feel bad, and might even apologize (if they have a reason to).
And also, try to avoid posting posts such as "These Pokemon have reasons to be Underused", it seems a bit off-topic, and un-professional. It's a game, and the programmers created these Pokemon, it's a fact.
What you're doing just encourages other members to dislike you and to show you that dislike, as well.

Azurians, just post as you used to, nothing happened. No biggie..

Pokemaniac Will, avoid posting posts such as I mentioned above, and just ignore if someone is insulting you. You'll see it's only for the best.

I sound like Mother Nature, don't I?

[ 12-25-2001: Message edited by: Noisy Phanpy ]

Posted by Tghost (Member # 1418) on 12-25-2001, 03:59 AM:
He's also a nice guy.

Well, actually, not really. More your average sullen withdrawn teenager...and I don't come across nice at Pojo...but, that's Pojo for you.

Posted by SDShamshel (Member # 791) on 12-25-2001, 08:43 AM:
Heh, you know what, if it really makes you that upset, I'll stop pointing out your flaws. Everyone knows I don't like to make too big a splash on messageboards.

Besides, even if I won't be pointing out your mistakes and overall attitude, everyone else will.

On the other hand, I have to say I don't see anything particularly wrong with this team. Just be warned that Tyranitar is getting to be a VERY popular starter, and T-Tars have this tendency to whoop Girafarig something fierce.

Posted by JY (Member # 2445) on 12-25-2001, 09:40 AM:
You, Pokemaster Will are perhaps one of the most n00bish people I have ever read a post by.


Posted by Noisy Phanpy (Member # 2394) on 12-25-2001, 01:22 PM:
Oh yeah.. JY, you must have read very carefully what I wrote. Please, there's no point in this..
Posted by St George (Member # 1923) on 12-25-2001, 02:57 PM:
A.D.D. = Attention. Deficient. Disorder = Take your tablets when you get a blood rush, or better still, do something useful with the extra blood - get a girl friend not Clare the Computer ;-)

You sound like you have some stuff to share, use your knowledge wisely - some of your previous responses are lame and some are constructive. If you are seeking attention -do it elsewhere. Most people here give constructive criticism without personal attacks on the writer's knowledge.

One day, my kids, will know the math behind a complex code of binary and formulae - as long as they can still enjoy the game and visit sites like this in the future.

Hope this has helped - Regards (Truly),

St George

Posted by Pokemaniac Will (Member # 2395) on 12-25-2001, 03:13 PM:
Thanks for all input, but I would like a team rate, please, that's why I made this post. Anyway, I'll agree to stop being so defensive and arguing if you just back of a little bit. The "so what are you gonna do about it" and the part about bugging you was meant to be humorous, not hostile-like. I guess that was a mistake on my part.

[ 12-25-2001: Message edited by: Pokemaniac Will ]

Posted by Kezzman (Member # 2268) on 12-26-2001, 05:46 AM:
*Turns to gaping onlookers*

Eh heh, they're just messing around eh heh heh. They don't mean it.

lol really hard.

Posted by Frogjedi (Member # 772) on 12-26-2001, 05:13 PM:
Common We're not all bad.
Posted by Bowser (Member # 2037) on 12-26-2001, 05:58 PM:
Rest over Psychic. Leaves you attackless, but I'd BP stat changes to the other Pokemon than try to attack with it.

Ice Beam.

Rest over Roar. I've found Crunch's Spcl. Def fall more useful than HP Grass. BTW, if you ever decide to compete in a tourney, most have an HP Clause (only one Pokemon with HP). I suggest you put Roar on Kangaskhan over Counter/Earthquake.

Your team has no HBer. HBers are pretty much mandatory on teams these days. I suggest Blissey over Politoed as you don't need two Roarers _and_ a Hazer. Sing|Filler/Ice Beam/Softboiled/Heal Bell @Leftovers.

Posted by Pokemaniac Will (Member # 2395) on 12-26-2001, 06:25 PM:
Your team has no HBer. HBers are pretty much mandatory on teams these days. I suggest Blissey over Politoed as you don't need two Roarers _and_ a Hazer. Sing|Filler/Ice Beam/Softboiled/Heal Bell @Leftovers.

Ok, there are a few problems. There are only four items, Granbull, Celebi, Miltank and Blissey. I don't like using Blissey as a Heal Beller because it has low Spc Atk and can't learn good RBY Tms (T-Wave, Counter, Reflect). Granbull has low stats and Miltank is way overused, it doesn't need more usage. That leaves Celebi, and if I used it I don't want to get any crap about Celebi being cheap so that's out. Also, Politoed is my only Water type, I can't have a team without Water, Fire and Electric types, and you shouldn't either. So I can't throw a Heal Beller on my team for these reasons.

Anyway, I can't leave Girafarig attackless, because as I'll be BPing he'll still be somewhere on my team and if it's my last one I'll be screwed.

I don't put more than one MintyRest on my teams. Leftovers is another story, but I'm not going to have more than one. Anyway, I put 2 Roarers and a Hazer on my team because you never know when two of these three could be picked off. If I only had those two I'd be screwed against anything, and I konw, I get stuck against something with Ancientpower Boosts a lot of times. So, I need all three.

Posted by Jman (Member # 618) on 12-26-2001, 08:40 PM:
To quote a very, very unnewbieish group...


Posted by DarkLickitung (Member # 1672) on 12-26-2001, 09:02 PM:
wtf u noob i kan still post!?!?!?
Posted by Pokemaniac Will (Member # 2395) on 12-28-2001, 09:23 PM:
Ok, I made some edits on my team. I decided to give half of them the boot since RigWak never seems to work. Rig was always Paralyzed, Confused, Seeded, put to Sleep or SOMETHING, so I couldn't pass Wak the Agilities and Amnesiases. Also Kangaskhan got the boot. So, without further ado...

Mr. Mime @Miracleberry
I decided to use a Psychic starter. T-Bolt is in there to surprise all of those people who use Cloyster to Spike. T-Wave is always good with average Speed.

Nidoking @Mint Berry
This is experimental. Kind of self-explanitory, really. Raise Defenses, Rest it off and use Earthquake. I'm going to try this out and see what you think, and if it sucks I'm going to use Earthquake, Flamethrower, Amnesia, Rest @Mint Berry.

Raikou @Leftovers
A standard Raikou.

Celebi @Miracleberry
Heal Bell
I'm not using my strategy because if I did I'd get a million 'You need a Heal Beller's, since I got them otherwise with my old team. HP-Grass is there for STAB and a Grass move.

Charizard @Leftovers
Wing Attack
I changed HP-Grass to Wing Attack because A) I don't want to be marked as "HP Freak" since I have a Celebi and B) I have a lack of Flying moves.

Politoed @Leftovers
The end already? Yep, same as last time.

Posted by Felixthecat (Member # 1647) on 12-29-2001, 01:43 AM:
::comes back after a week offline on vacation, checks the site, takes a deep breath::

::glances at the last few topics::


Karpe Diem