This is topic Struggle affects Ghosts... in forum Complaints Dept. at The Azure Heights Forum.


To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/buzz/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000164

Posted by Atma (Member # 689) on 08-21-2000, 08:17 PM:
 
I tried this on Stadium... I used Caterpie, Krabby, Kabuto, and gengar against Ditto (all level 50 mrentals). Ditto transformed into Caterpie, then I ran him out of PP. Struggle did 11 damage each to Kabuto amd Krabby (both of whom had the same Defense), igrnoring Kabuto's rockness, and against gengar did a critical hit for 29, followed by a normal hit for 17.

So, at least in Stadium, Struggle ignores type differences

------------------
"My name is Atma...
I am pure energy... and as ancient as the cosmos.
Forgotten in the river of time...
I've had an eternity to ponder the meaning of things...
And now I have an answer..."
 


Posted by Mr. K (Member # 2) on 08-24-2000, 02:39 AM:
 
Just wanted to mention that I'm not ignoring this one, I just haven't had time to test it.

It wouldn't surprise me if something else changed in Stadium...

------------------
"If you can do no good, at least do no harm."
-Hippocrates
 


Posted by Marril (Member # 51) on 08-30-2000, 07:57 PM:
 
Bide afects ghosts... so does Counter (I think)...

------------------
"But, it was so artistically done."
--Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words,
Star Wars: The Last Command
 


Posted by Vaporeon of the mist on 09-04-2000, 02:17 PM:
 
Speaking of Ghosts, isnt there a Ghost in GS called "Muma?" Or pehaps I spelled it wrong.

------------------
Articuno, hear my cry

"This Kittens Purdy." Jackdaw
"Being a Vaporeon is pretty cool, and the kids at the Park feed me bread!" VOTM to Aunt Veevee
 


Posted by Starshelle (Member # 567) on 09-04-2000, 07:56 PM:
 
Yeah it's spelled Muuma or something along those lines. I think the unconfirmed English name for her is Trillix, and she's pure ghost.

------------------
SDShamshel's Newbie Experience:
Me and my friend were on the train talking about Pokemon. This guy next to us says, "You like Pokemon?"
My friend says, "Yes, but only the Japanese version (in regard to the anime)."
The guy responds with, "Wait, there's JAPANESE Pokemon?"
 


Posted by Vaporeon of the mist on 09-04-2000, 11:09 PM:
 
Sweet! I've already known there was a Pure ghost, but each time I hear it I just cant help but pump my fist into the air and say YES as loud as I can in a pubic place.

------------------
Articuno, hear my cry

"This Kittens Purdy." Jackdaw
"Being a Vaporeon is pretty cool, and the kids at the Park feed me bread!" VOTM to Aunt Veevee
 


Posted by Psybro (Member # 290) on 09-05-2000, 03:05 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vaporeon of the mist:
Sweet! I've already known there was a Pure ghost, but each time I hear it I just cant help but pump my fist into the air and say YES as loud as I can in a pubic place.



I'm pretty sure you meant public place, not pubic place. But anyway, unfortuneatly Muuma's stats are crappy.

------------------
Never kick a man when he's down, he might get back up again.

"And, in conclusion...Fuck Zapdos"-Mr. K's First Tourney:Epilogue
Not related to the better-known ex-UPN-now-BMG-and-PD-Psybro.
 


Posted by Cesar (Member # 529) on 09-05-2000, 05:00 PM:
 
Is there anything super effective against ghost like the new steel/dark types?

------------------
"Today Chicago, tomorrow Saturday"-Kelly Bundy
"90% grunts and yelling at each other, 10% boring recycled animation." Mr.K talking about Dragon Ball Z
cesar@infinity.net
 


Posted by Starshelle (Member # 567) on 09-05-2000, 07:47 PM:
 
Well, I'm by far no G/S expert, but I've heard mixed reviews about Trillix stats.

At the best, I've read she has average stats, and not being poisen makes her more useful than Gengar. Then of course, at worst it could be just like Psybro says: crappy.

------------------
SDShamshel's Newbie Experience:
Me and my friend were on the train talking about Pokemon. This guy next to us says, "You like Pokemon?"
My friend says, "Yes, but only the Japanese version (in regard to the anime)."
The guy responds with, "Wait, there's JAPANESE Pokemon?"
 


Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 09-06-2000, 01:55 AM:
 
<plug>From my comprehensive G/S Pokedex,</plug> her base stats are:

HP:60
At:60
De:60
SpA:85
SpD:85
Spe:85
Total = 435

------------------
"Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you."
-- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri exit message
 


Posted by SDShamshel (Member # 791) on 09-06-2000, 11:39 AM:
 
However, it does learn Share Pain, to make up for the HP deficiency.

------------------
Gundam Wing/Thundercats: WHAT'S THAT?!? Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight. I'm going to fight it. Thunder...thunder...Thundercats...(buster rifle to the head).

AIM: Nobie20
ICQ: 71976989
 


Posted by Noddy (Member # 877) on 09-19-2000, 03:51 PM:
 
As well as grudge, which steals the PP away from the last attack used on you! Very nice!

------------------

 


Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 08-01-2002, 02:47 PM:
 
I just noticed that the Struggle page still doesn't mention that the attack affects Ghosts in Stadium.
 
Posted by jshadias (Member # 2710) on 08-01-2002, 07:34 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
I just noticed that the Struggle page still doesn't mention that the attack affects Ghosts in Stadium.

I was under the impression that Struggle affected Ghosts in all versions. These bumps are great because you find out stuff like this.
 
Posted by Atma (Member # 689) on 08-01-2002, 10:19 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
I just noticed that the Struggle page still doesn't mention that the attack affects Ghosts in Stadium.

Or RBY...

quote:

Because it is a Normal type attack, it cannot affect Ghost Pokémon.

Struggle is typeless, not normal.
 
Posted by MK (Member # 1445) on 08-01-2002, 10:40 PM:
 
Even though it's not normal, the game says its normal doesn't it? Someone needs to have Porygon use Conversion2 after struggle has been used and see what happens.

Maybe it will fail like it does when you use it after curse?

I figure it will consider it a normal attack even though it isn't one...
 
Posted by Chrisodeo (Member # 2855) on 08-26-2002, 04:14 PM:
 
Struggle is Normal, just like Hidden Power is. Its only Normal in appearance. In reality, its typeless.
 
Posted by Mentar the Malady Monkey (Member # 1182) on 09-09-2002, 01:34 AM:
 
What the hell ever happened to VOTM?
 


Karpe Diem