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Posted by Porygone (Member # 805) on 06-05-2003, 09:59 AM:
Back in the earlier days of Pokemon, I paid little attention to what my Pokemon fought and focusing on their DV/IV/genes.

Now, in R/S, there's an obvious need to be careful with what your Pokemon does and does not fight. Now, I have a question on stat exp. Can it be 'erased'?

To be more specific, how permanent is it? I'm sure that leveling up would make it permanent, as would the various drugs or being 'boxed'.

I read a while ago that in G/S/C, using a Pokemon Center to heal would result in the erasing of stat exp. that had not been 'applied' yet.

To use as an example, let's say I start a new game. My Torchic fights the Poochyena, which gives it a point of attack exp. As I rush to see Brenden, I accidently fight and kill a Wurmple. However, I do not want to use its stat exp to boost up its Attack or HP. So, am I stuck with this one point forever in its Attack, or can I lose the points in any way?
Posted by Mu (Member # 28) on 06-05-2003, 10:44 AM:
You're stuck with it.

However, you generally get two 'junk' points to account for mistakes. Since you need four effort points to buy one stat point, and the full amount of 510 isn't divisible by four.
Posted by Porygone (Member # 805) on 06-05-2003, 10:47 AM:
I see. OK then, thanks.
Posted by Uiru (Member # 437) on 06-05-2003, 01:00 PM:
But to exactly hit 252 points, you have to keep track of everything you've fought.

I'm training up three guys at once (two Exp. Shares) and I'm going to get them all to 250 in two stats first, so I have a little more room for error. Then give them another point of HP or something. [Smile]
Posted by Bugcatcher Ed (Member # 3289) on 06-05-2003, 01:53 PM:
As a further comment, it is no longer in R/S possible to compute the IVs of a fully experienced pokemon unless you know exactly what stat experience it has. Also, to determine with certainty the IVs of a totally inexperienced pokemon, you must either level up your pokemon much higher (L100?), or use a more complicated method, although at least it's much easier to acquire rare candy than in any previous game. In other words, immense effort, including a lot of dull bookkeeping, is required to go much beyond casual play.

(Thanks White Cat. I have no idea why I typed base stats instead of IVs there, although at least I was consistent. I've fixed it now.)

[ 06-06-2003, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Bugcatcher Ed ]
Posted by White Cat (Member # 42) on 06-05-2003, 05:51 PM:
Good point, Ed (although whenever you said "base stats" you should have said "genes/DVs/IVs").

Most people would calculate their genes before raising the Pokemon, so not being able to calculate them afterwards isn't too big a problem.

Meowth's "calculate genes with five Rare Candies" tool should prove to be very useful.
Posted by Porygone (Member # 805) on 06-05-2003, 05:53 PM:
Yeah, I'm aware of the importance of paying careful attention to how much stat exp. a Pokemon has.

*holds up notebook charting what his Pokemon have fought and how much stat exp. they've accumulated*

I've been carefully marking what my Torchic (now Combusken) has fought, and used Meowth346's calculator to figure out its DVs, which are
HP - 25
Attack - 25
Defense - 22/23*
Speed - 20
Special Attack - 25/26*
Special Defense - 27
for the curious. I haven't pinpointed exactly what the Defense/Special Attack DVs are yet.

I need to catch a load of Zigzagoon for Rare Candy hunting.
Posted by Bugcatcher Ed (Member # 3289) on 06-06-2003, 03:13 PM:
Definitely get a load of zigzagoons/linoons/phanpies. I know everyone else is swimming in money, but I can't get used to having what amounts to an infinite supply of super potions and ultraballs, to effortlessly having sufficient revives, full restores and PP ups, to accumulating proteins much faster than I otherwise would, and to the income supplement from nuggets, and on top of that, I have enough kings rocks to give a few away. Wish you could actually get master balls that way, though. My youngest daughter missed getting hers.
Posted by Porygone (Member # 805) on 06-06-2003, 04:13 PM:
If you REALLY love your daughter, you'd just give her yours.

But you probably used it already. Some 'caring' parent you are.
Posted by Bugcatcher Ed (Member # 3289) on 06-09-2003, 06:34 PM:
I probably will. But I don't have one yet, so I'll see if she still needs it by the time I get it.

Karpe Diem